bigger lawyer lips on the way?
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bigger lawyer lips on the way?
Per Jacobe Hazzard:
Or you could replace the QR skewers with allen-keyed skewers. A lot of people around here do that to prevent casual theft of wheels, plus you still don't need to carry a wrench. That wouldn't satisfy my particular paranoia. My concern is the fastener coming loose enough for the wheel to eject past the lawyer lips. The beauty of through-axle to me is that it's fault-tolerant. i.e. the screws can be *really* loose and it still stays in place. -- PeteCresswell |
bigger lawyer lips on the way?
(PeteCresswell) wrote: That wouldn't satisfy my particular paranoia. My concern is the fastener coming loose enough for the wheel to eject past the lawyer lips. The beauty of through-axle to me is that it's fault-tolerant. i.e. the screws can be *really* loose and it still stays in place. -- PeteCresswell Seems to me all quick release skewers should come with some kind of locking mechanism that would prevent loosening after it was fastened. Even if the skewer were tightened just a little it would not unscrew, never getting loose enough to bypass the lawyer lips. -Nate |
bigger lawyer lips on the way?
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 09:47:38 -0800, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
Per Jacobe Hazzard: Or you could replace the QR skewers with allen-keyed skewers. A lot of people around here do that to prevent casual theft of wheels, plus you still don't need to carry a wrench. That wouldn't satisfy my particular paranoia. My concern is the fastener coming loose enough for the wheel to eject past the lawyer lips. The beauty of through-axle to me is that it's fault-tolerant. i.e. the screws can be *really* loose and it still stays in place. Also, allen-skewers lack visual indication that they are loose, which regular skewers do show at even the most casual glance (at least for the main QR motion). Jasper |
bigger lawyer lips on the way?
On 5 Nov 2005 13:05:38 -0800, "Llatikcuf" wrote:
Seems to me all quick release skewers should come with some kind of locking mechanism that would prevent loosening after it was fastened. Even if the skewer were tightened just a little it would not unscrew, never getting loose enough to bypass the lawyer lips. A washer with *real* interlocking serrations (not the puny .1 mm deep crap on QRs now) that on the other side fits in the dropout slot so it can't rotate would seem to be the obvious answer. If you make left and right w/ frex 39 and 40 serrations, there is not even the minor reduction in adjustability. Jasper |
bigger lawyer lips on the way?
Jasper Janssen wrote:
On 5 Nov 2005 13:05:38 -0800, "Llatikcuf" wrote: Seems to me all quick release skewers should come with some kind of locking mechanism that would prevent loosening after it was fastened. Even if the skewer were tightened just a little it would not unscrew, never getting loose enough to bypass the lawyer lips. A washer with *real* interlocking serrations (not the puny .1 mm deep crap on QRs now) that on the other side fits in the dropout slot so it can't rotate would seem to be the obvious answer. If you make left and right w/ frex 39 and 40 serrations, there is not even the minor reduction in adjustability. Jasper In addition, people who do not know how to use QRs wouldn't be able to physically wingnut the skewer closed because the serrations would prevent tightness. -- Phil, Squid-in-Training |
bigger lawyer lips on the way?
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bigger lawyer lips on the way?
If tightened properly, the cam mechanism keeps the QR closed. You have to
increase the tension to get over the cam's high spot before you can release the wheel. This is true I'm sure you could feel the front wheel moving around. Yes I'm sure you could. We were talking about kids who buy their bikes at walmart.... You or I and the story is different. -Nate |
bigger lawyer lips on the way?
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bigger lawyer lips on the way?
Alex Rodriguez wrote:
In article .com, says... Yes I'm sure you could. We were talking about kids who buy their bikes at walmart.... You or I and the story is different. Agreed. The staff should be requred to leave instructions on the wheel and show the parents how to operate the QR before they walk out of the store. Make each parent sign a statement saying they were instructed in the proper use of a QR would be a good idea. ------------- Alex Do you read warning labels (such as instructions on the wheel or QR lever)? Have you tried demonstrating QR operation to people? There is no way to guaranty that somebody understands QR operation without forcing them to secure the wheel right in front of you. That can be awkward, time-consuming, and sometimes patronizing. "Wheels not straight... you didn't hook the brake up right... lever's not tight enough..." Imagine placing this burden on a $6/hr clerk at Walmart. -Vee |
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