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Deep Freud Moors:
Utter bull****. Dirt will kill bearings MUCH faster than an absence of grease. Clean dry bearings will run for a long time, dirty bearings (even when greased) will not. Don't change the subject. Grease's secondary property as water and dirt barrier is what's been pointed out, NOT whether dirt is destructive to bearings. You are the one that is trying to change the subject!!! It was originally about wheel bearings, if you can recall correctly. You avoided that last comparison because it illustrates my point rather concisely, doesn't it! Nope. You made several false statements about grease, and whether it's used for bearings or turbine rotors or gears, the primary purpose of it is lubrication. I see you skipped all the statements about grease being a lubricant, and not provided an iota of factual data about why you think otherwise. |
cleaning fun...(not)
Deep Freud Moors:
Utter bull****. Dirt will kill bearings MUCH faster than an absence of grease. Clean dry bearings will run for a long time, dirty bearings (even when greased) will not. Don't change the subject. Grease's secondary property as water and dirt barrier is what's been pointed out, NOT whether dirt is destructive to bearings. You are the one that is trying to change the subject!!! It was originally about wheel bearings, if you can recall correctly. You avoided that last comparison because it illustrates my point rather concisely, doesn't it! Nope. You made several false statements about grease, and whether it's used for bearings or turbine rotors or gears, the primary purpose of it is lubrication. I see you skipped all the statements about grease being a lubricant, and not provided an iota of factual data about why you think otherwise. |
cleaning fun...(not)
Deep Freud Moors:
Crikey, do I have to go back to my original statement yet again??? "The primary purpose of the grease is not lubrication, but to keep dirt and water out." Note that it says "primary", not "sole". It's still wrong, and it doesn't matter how many times you state it. The primary purpose of grease is lubrication. Educate yourself and you won't have to make up things like this. It's annoying for most of everyone of us who know better. Grease does provide somewhat of a lubricating effect, It provides more than a "somewhat" lubricating effect, it provides *all the necessary* lubrication required by the bearings. but its role of inhibiting dirt from getting into the bearings is much more important from a reliability point of view. What rubbish. Why do you make up things like this? A secondary benefit of grease is its water repellency, not dirt repellency. You might think that grease prevents dirt getting into the rotating parts, but you are again wrong. Dirt is a killer in being entrained in grease, as it will eventually be carried into the moving parts. You've been making all these wrong claims about grease, it's time you cut your losses and go. |
cleaning fun...(not)
Deep Freud Moors:
Crikey, do I have to go back to my original statement yet again??? "The primary purpose of the grease is not lubrication, but to keep dirt and water out." Note that it says "primary", not "sole". It's still wrong, and it doesn't matter how many times you state it. The primary purpose of grease is lubrication. Educate yourself and you won't have to make up things like this. It's annoying for most of everyone of us who know better. Grease does provide somewhat of a lubricating effect, It provides more than a "somewhat" lubricating effect, it provides *all the necessary* lubrication required by the bearings. but its role of inhibiting dirt from getting into the bearings is much more important from a reliability point of view. What rubbish. Why do you make up things like this? A secondary benefit of grease is its water repellency, not dirt repellency. You might think that grease prevents dirt getting into the rotating parts, but you are again wrong. Dirt is a killer in being entrained in grease, as it will eventually be carried into the moving parts. You've been making all these wrong claims about grease, it's time you cut your losses and go. |
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Mike:
Theo Bekkers wrote: The primary purpose of grease is lubrication. Grease is just very thick oil. Not quite, Theo. Yes, quite. In common english usage, "grease" can refer to solid oils, such as animal fat. But lubricating "grease" is completely different. Now you're just trying to be smart. Animal fat has never been inferred, implied, nor even remotely hinted at in the thread. It just looks the same, hence the same name. It doesn't look the same. As he said, its oil + thickeners. Correct. Oil *and* thickener/carrier. Nothing else he said was correct. http://www.lubems.com/Composition.htm |
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Mike:
Theo Bekkers wrote: The primary purpose of grease is lubrication. Grease is just very thick oil. Not quite, Theo. Yes, quite. In common english usage, "grease" can refer to solid oils, such as animal fat. But lubricating "grease" is completely different. Now you're just trying to be smart. Animal fat has never been inferred, implied, nor even remotely hinted at in the thread. It just looks the same, hence the same name. It doesn't look the same. As he said, its oil + thickeners. Correct. Oil *and* thickener/carrier. Nothing else he said was correct. http://www.lubems.com/Composition.htm |
Hosing a bike
"Arpit" wrote in message
... Is it ok to hose a bike to clean it? Not with the water restrictions. Use a bucket. Regards, Suzy |
Hosing a bike
"Arpit" wrote in message
... Is it ok to hose a bike to clean it? Not with the water restrictions. Use a bucket. Regards, Suzy |
cleaning fun...(not)
"Theo Bekkers" wrote in message ... Not quite, Theo. In common english usage, "grease" can refer to solid oils, such as animal fat. But lubricating "grease" is completely different. It just looks the same, hence the same name. As he said, its oil + thickeners. I believe the context of the discussion was grease as used on bicycles. I don't think anyone was advocating the use of chicken fat in their bottom bracket. :-) Probably closer than you think. The two main thickers of grease are soap or clay (for high temp work) well, soap is just animal fat and caustic soda. |
cleaning fun...(not)
"Theo Bekkers" wrote in message ... Not quite, Theo. In common english usage, "grease" can refer to solid oils, such as animal fat. But lubricating "grease" is completely different. It just looks the same, hence the same name. As he said, its oil + thickeners. I believe the context of the discussion was grease as used on bicycles. I don't think anyone was advocating the use of chicken fat in their bottom bracket. :-) Probably closer than you think. The two main thickers of grease are soap or clay (for high temp work) well, soap is just animal fat and caustic soda. |
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