2019 - you MUST leave a 5 foot overtaking gap!
 

QUOTE:
Overtaking cyclists.

"Drivers need to leave enough space for cyclists when they overtake them or face a £100 fine. The Highway Code states there should be 4ft 11in (1..5 metres) between the car and cyclist - around the width of a car door."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...know-2019.html

2019 - you MUST leave a 5 foot overtaking gap!
 

On 27/12/2018 10:37, wrote:
QUOTE: Overtaking cyclists.

"Drivers need to leave enough space for cyclists when they overtake
them or face a £100 fine. The Highway Code states there should be 4ft
11in (1.5 metres) between the car and cyclist - around the width of a
car door."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...know-2019.html



The miserable faction will no doubt be up in arms about why they should
give 1.5m when overtaking a *moving* cyclist but the cyclist is not
required to give the same gap when overtaking their *stationary* vehicle.

Besides, almost everybody (vocal cyclists included) will fail to notice
that it is 1.5m wheel to wheel, not mirror to elbow. A strange omission
by whatever government organistion put this forward.

2019 - you MUST leave a 5 foot overtaking gap!
 

On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 02:37:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:

QUOTE:
Overtaking cyclists.

"Drivers need to leave enough space for cyclists when they overtake them or face a £100 fine. The Highway Code states there should be 4ft 11in (1.5 metres) between the car and cyclist - around the width of a car door."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...know-2019.html

I didn't realise the Daily Wail was a legal reference book. Would you
care to point out where in the 2019 edition of the Highway code a
requirement to allow 1.5m exists?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-high...oad-159-to-203

2019 - you MUST leave a 5 foot overtaking gap!
 

On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 12:15:19 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote:
On 27/12/2018 10:37, wrote:
QUOTE: Overtaking cyclists.

"Drivers need to leave enough space for cyclists when they overtake
them or face a £100 fine. The Highway Code states there should be 4ft
11in (1.5 metres) between the car and cyclist - around the width of a
car door."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...know-2019.html



The miserable faction will no doubt be up in arms about why they should
give 1.5m when overtaking a *moving* cyclist but the cyclist is not
required to give the same gap when overtaking their *stationary* vehicle.

Besides, almost everybody (vocal cyclists included) will fail to notice
that it is 1.5m wheel to wheel, not mirror to elbow. A strange omission
by whatever government organistion put this forward.

I think relative speed is the issue.
I remember cycling with a friend from her flat in Kensal Green across the city to Greenwich.
Crossing Tower Bridge we were shoulder to mirror with subsidised vehicles but it did not feel dangerous.

2019 - you MUST leave a 5 foot overtaking gap!
 

On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 12:15:17 +0000, TMS320 wrote:

On 27/12/2018 10:37, wrote:
QUOTE: Overtaking cyclists.

"Drivers need to leave enough space for cyclists when they overtake
them or face a £100 fine. The Highway Code states there should be 4ft
11in (1.5 metres) between the car and cyclist - around the width of a
car door."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...know-2019.html


The miserable faction will no doubt be up in arms about why they should
give 1.5m when overtaking a *moving* cyclist but the cyclist is not
required to give the same gap when overtaking their *stationary* vehicle.

The pushbike rider is not required to give any sort of gap whether the
vehicle is moving or not.

Besides, almost everybody (vocal cyclists included) will fail to notice
that it is 1.5m wheel to wheel, not mirror to elbow. A strange omission
by whatever government organistion put this forward.

It isn't 1.5m anything to anything 1.5m is not in the Highway Code at
all and even the CTC or whatever they call themselves this week oppose
a mandatory passing distance.

2019 - you MUST leave a 5 foot overtaking gap!
 

On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 12:15:19 PM UTC, TMS320 wrote:
On 27/12/2018 10:37, wrote:
QUOTE: Overtaking cyclists.

"Drivers need to leave enough space for cyclists when they overtake
them or face a £100 fine. The Highway Code states there should be 4ft
11in (1.5 metres) between the car and cyclist - around the width of a
car door."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...know-2019.html



The miserable faction will no doubt be up in arms about why they should
give 1.5m when overtaking a *moving* cyclist but the cyclist is not
required to give the same gap when overtaking their *stationary* vehicle.

Besides, almost everybody (vocal cyclists included) will fail to notice
that it is 1.5m wheel to wheel, not mirror to elbow. A strange omission
by whatever government organistion put this forward.

That is supposing that your average driver will actually *read and learn* the new 2019 edition of the HC anyway, let alone act upon it. We can only hope.

QUOTE:
RAC: "Our recent survey found 65% of drivers admit to never reading the Highway Code after passing their test."

2019 - you MUST leave a 5 foot overtaking gap!
 

On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 1:58:16 PM UTC, Peter Parry wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 02:37:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:

QUOTE:
Overtaking cyclists.

"Drivers need to leave enough space for cyclists when they overtake them or face a £100 fine. The Highway Code states there should be 4ft 11in (1.5 metres) between the car and cyclist - around the width of a car door."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...know-2019.html

I didn't realise the Daily Wail was a legal reference book. Would you
care to point out where in the 2019 edition of the Highway code a
requirement to allow 1.5m exists?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-high...oad-159-to-203

It is not 2019 yet.
I will not face the new more stringent MOT until May 2019 either.

2019 - you MUST leave a 5 foot overtaking gap!
 

On 27/12/2018 14:36, Peter Parry wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 12:15:17 +0000, TMS320 wrote:

On 27/12/2018 10:37, wrote:
QUOTE: Overtaking cyclists.

"Drivers need to leave enough space for cyclists when they overtake
them or face a £100 fine. The Highway Code states there should be 4ft
11in (1.5 metres) between the car and cyclist - around the width of a
car door."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...know-2019.html


The miserable faction will no doubt be up in arms about why they should
give 1.5m when overtaking a *moving* cyclist but the cyclist is not
required to give the same gap when overtaking their *stationary* vehicle.

The pushbike rider is not required to give any sort of gap whether the
vehicle is moving or not.

I did write "not required"...

Besides, almost everybody (vocal cyclists included) will fail to notice
that it is 1.5m wheel to wheel, not mirror to elbow. A strange omission
by whatever government organistion put this forward.

It isn't 1.5m anything to anything 1.5m is not in the Highway Code at
all

The article says something about 2019. We're not quite there yet.

and even the CTC or whatever they call themselves this week oppose
a mandatory passing distance.

Probably for similar reasons I gave above - the rule makers musn't upset
the misery faction.

2019 - you MUST leave a 5 foot overtaking gap!
 

On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:12:58 +0000, TMS320 wrote:

On 27/12/2018 14:36, Peter Parry wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 12:15:17 +0000, TMS320 wrote:

On 27/12/2018 10:37, wrote:
QUOTE: Overtaking cyclists.

Besides, almost everybody (vocal cyclists included) will fail to notice
that it is 1.5m wheel to wheel, not mirror to elbow. A strange omission
by whatever government organistion put this forward.

It isn't 1.5m anything to anything 1.5m is not in the Highway Code at
all

The article says something about 2019. We're not quite there yet.

But the Highway Code is, the Nov 2018 edition is the 2019 version.

It amends S163 to say :-

"Rule 163

Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should...give
motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you
would when overtaking a car"

Note even in this the rule is a "Should", not as claimed a "Must"

2019 - you MUST leave a 5 foot overtaking gap!
 

On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 07:33:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, December 27, 2018 at 1:58:16 PM UTC, Peter Parry wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 02:37:28 -0800 (PST), wrote:

QUOTE:
Overtaking cyclists.

"Drivers need to leave enough space for cyclists when they overtake them or face a £100 fine. The Highway Code states there should be 4ft 11in (1.5 metres) between the car and cyclist - around the width of a car door."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...know-2019.html

I didn't realise the Daily Wail was a legal reference book. Would you
care to point out where in the 2019 edition of the Highway code a
requirement to allow 1.5m exists?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-high...oad-159-to-203

It is not 2019 yet.
I will not face the new more stringent MOT until May 2019 either.

See later answer, the Nov2018 edition is the 2019 version.