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Mike Vandeman[_4_] November 18th 11 09:46 AM

Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian
 
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....

....a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB

---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."

"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.

"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.

"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.

"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.

"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.

"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )

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Harry Brogan[_7_] November 18th 11 11:41 AM

Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian
 
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:46:24 -0800 (PST), Mike Vandeman
wrote:

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....

...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB

---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."

"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.

"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.

"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.

"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.

"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.

"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )

-------------



Link please?

Mike Vandeman[_4_] November 18th 11 06:19 PM

Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian
 
On Nov 18, 2:41*am, Harry Brogan
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:46:24 -0800 (PST), Mike Vandeman





wrote:
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....


...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB


---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."


"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.


"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.


"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.


"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.


"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.


"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


-------------


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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAVR1LVK2F.DTL

Edward Dolan November 18th 11 06:24 PM

Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian
 
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....

...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB

---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."

"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.

"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.

"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.

"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.

"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.

"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


How about 20 years in prison instead. Then the asshole will be 43 when he
gets out and less liable to be running people over on his ****ing bicycle.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



Mike Vandeman[_4_] November 18th 11 10:40 PM

Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian
 
On Nov 18, 9:24*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message

...





Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....


...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB


---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."


"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.


"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.


"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.


"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.


"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.


"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


How about 20 years in prison instead. Then the asshole will be 43 when he
gets out and less liable to be running people over on his ****ing bicycle..

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota- Hide quoted text -

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At 09:51 AM 11/18/2011, [a friend] wrote:
One of the best friends of a friend of ours was hit & killed by a
cyclist who ran a red light at Columbus & Bay street in S.F. about 28
years ago. She was crossing at the crosswalk on a light that just
turned green and a cyclist was bombing down the street through the red
light. He knocked her in the air. She landed on her head, went into
a coma & died 2 weeks later. This situation that just happened is
nothing new - same mentality.

It sure seems like "gross negligence" to me!

Elrod Farggernugget November 19th 11 05:53 AM

Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian
 
Where is the reference to a mountain bike in the article
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAVR1LVK2F.DTL ?
I read the article and saw it nowhere. Is there another link that says it
was a mountain bike? Just curious.

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...

On Nov 18, 2:41 am, Harry Brogan
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:46:24 -0800 (PST), Mike Vandeman





wrote:
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....


...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB


---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."


"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.


"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.


"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.


"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.


"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.


"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


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T. Keating November 19th 11 02:27 PM

Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian
 
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:53:11 -0700, "Elrod Farggernugget"
wrote:

Where is the reference to a mountain bike in the article
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAVR1LVK2F.DTL ?
I read the article and saw it nowhere. Is there another link that says it
was a mountain bike? Just curious.


It wasn't a mountain bike.

http://www.baycitizen.org/bikes/stor...-womans-death/
This article has a photograph of the biker being questioned by police
after the accident. The Racing/road bicycle appears to be undamaged.




"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...

On Nov 18, 2:41 am, Harry Brogan
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:46:24 -0800 (PST), Mike Vandeman





wrote:
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....


...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB


---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."


"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.


"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.


"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.


"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.


"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.


"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAVR1LVK2F.DTL



Mike Vandeman[_4_] November 20th 11 05:20 AM

Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian
 
On Nov 19, 5:27*am, T. Keating wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:53:11 -0700, "Elrod Farggernugget"

wrote:
Where is the reference to a mountain bike in the article
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAVR1LVK2....?
I read the article and saw it nowhere. Is there another link that says it
was a mountain bike? Just curious.


It wasn't a mountain bike.

http://www.baycitizen.org/bikes/stor...-womans-death/
This article has a photograph of the biker being questioned by police
after the accident. * The Racing/road bicycle appears to be undamaged.





"Mike Vandeman" *wrote in message
....


On Nov 18, 2:41 am, Harry Brogan
wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:46:24 -0800 (PST), Mike Vandeman


wrote:
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:21:37 -0800
Subject: Death of a Pedestrian due to....


...a mountain biker, in San Francisco. This story was in the 16 Nov.
2011 'San Francisco Chronicle.' The poor woman -- being a tourist, she
obviously didn't know that in San Francisco people are supposed to
jump out of the way and let the biker just ride through. This is the
same "entitlement" mentality we trail users are battling in Marin
County. CB


---
"Bicyclist faces manslaughter charge in pedestrian's death."


"A bicyclist who hit and killed a pedestrian when he ran a red light
along San Francisco's waterfront has been charged with misdemeanor
vehicular manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.


"Rudolph Ang, 23, of San Francisco collided with 68-year-old Dionette
Cherney at Mission Street and the Embarcadero about 8:30 a.m. July 15,
prosecutors said. Cherney, who was visiting from Washington, DC, died
of head injuries at a hospital Aug. 11.


"Cherney was crossing the Embarcadero in a crosswalk with the green
light at Mission when she was hit by Ang, who was travelling north,
police said.


"Ang remained at the scene and was interviewed by police. There was no
evidence he was drunk or on drugs, prosecutors said.


"Ang was charged with only a misdemeanor because investigators
determined that he had not acted with criminal intent or gross
negligence, said Stephanie Ong Stillman, a spokeswoman for DA George
Gascon.


"Ang faces a maximum sentence of a year in jail if convicted. " (Email
Henry K. Lee at )


-------------


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Did you have a point?

Opus[_2_] November 20th 11 04:34 PM

Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian
 
On Nov 19, 10:20*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:

Did you have a point?


She wasn't hit by a mountain bike, therefore the premise stated in
your header is false. Your irrational hatred of mountain bikes has
conflated a road bike wreck on a road with the subject "mountain
bikes" where no such connection exists. QED you are insane. "Beautiful
Mind" insane, but without the genius of the charcter in the movie...

Mike Vandeman[_4_] November 20th 11 07:24 PM

Mountain Biker Runs Red Light, Kills Pedestrian
 
On Nov 20, 7:34*am, Opus wrote:
On Nov 19, 10:20*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:



Did you have a point?


She wasn't hit by a mountain bike, therefore the premise stated in
your header is false. Your irrational hatred of mountain bikes has
conflated a road bike wreck on a road with the subject "mountain
bikes" where no such connection exists. QED you are insane. "Beautiful
Mind" insane, but without the genius of the charcter in the movie...


BS. Your hatred of people who tell the truth about mountain biking led
you to ascribe that statement to me, when it obviously came from
someone else named "CB". Learn to read, idiot. Sheesh. And even if I
HAD made a mistake, it wouldn't lead to a diagnosis of "insane",
dumdum. "Insane" is what you call people who mountain bike, leading
inevitably to serious injury or death. Have you had an accident on
your mountain bike yet? Tell the truth....


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