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catzz66 September 9th 05 11:38 AM

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Paul Hobson wrote:


My "entry-level" road bike has Sora components on it. I still think
it's great! It shifts quickly, accurately and precisely. While it's
true that I can't reach the thumb lever from the drops, I still like it.
I really can't imagine how the cost difference between any other group
would be worth it to a casual rider.


My backup bike is RX100 equipped and works just fine. If that is down
on Shimano's list, I am doing all right. Does anybody recall when RX100
was discontinued? I think my older bike was from about 1999. The
shifters were upgraded to Ultegra at some point, which probably makes a
lot of difference.

buckyllama September 9th 05 03:00 PM

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-You've got Hone on there twice.
-100GS is definately at the bottom (works fine but not high-zoot ).
-Saint is really one group. the only difference between 135 and 150 is
the rear drouput spacing. some newer DH bikes use 150mm rear spacing.
This is not better or worse in the line, merely different.
-STX-RC was higher in the lineup than STX (rc was supposably for "race"
IIRC).
-There is no Deore preceding the XTR name.
-All dura-ace and 105 are the same. There is no percieved or actual
quality or lineup difference between different finishes (black v/s
silver) or gear arrangements (double, triple, track)
-The Deore position is approximately equal to both STX and STX-RC.
Though really (since I have parts from all of these groups sitting in
my basement) I'd say that Deore is closer to STX-rc and newer alivio is
somewhere between old alivio and STX. The newer alivio parts are nicer
than they were 10 years ago imho.


[email protected] September 9th 05 05:44 PM

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Saint and Hone are a different line than XTR/XT/etc. You should add a
third category - in addition to "Road" and "Mountain", add "Freeride"
or whatever. Saint is roughly XTR level and Hone is roughly LX level,
but they are totally different in construction and meant for a totally
different customer base. (They won't even attach to a normal mountain
bike, the derailleur attachment doesn't use a traditional hanger).


Jasper Janssen September 10th 05 06:12 PM

Shimano best to worst list
 
On 8 Sep 2005 12:52:01 -0700, "Brian Huntley"
wrote:

Oh, I agree with that part. Especially the MTB "A"s - where my bikes
tend to live. I've always been unclear on the
Alivio/Acera/Altus/Acura/Amiga heirarchy.


Just for that, I prefer Deore myself. At least that's pretty clear.


Jasper

Jasper Janssen September 10th 05 06:17 PM

Shimano best to worst list
 
On 8 Sep 2005 13:03:05 -0700, "buckyllama" wrote:

I'd also note that there seems to be less variability in the road
lineup than mountain. Tourney is crap. Sora is actually quite good.


Sora also costs more than Deore[1], so meh. Tourney is $50 for an entire
group at OEM prices -- there are plenty of completely shimano equipped
MTBs at the 100-150 retail level.


Jasper

[1] A Sora group, no hubs, is 250 euros and a Deore group 200 at a
localish mail order place.

[email protected] December 10th 18 05:38 PM

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ur wrong


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