Cycling in Toronto
 

An interesting study has made the news. Street car tracks are a factor.
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral...889-016-3242-3

The methodology looks to be humanities-based and less than scientific.

Okay, let the RBT critique of the study begin!
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

Cycling in Toronto
 

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 8:04:04 AM UTC-4, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
An interesting study has made the news. Street car tracks are a factor.
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral...889-016-3242-3

The methodology looks to be humanities-based and less than scientific.

Okay, let the RBT critique of the study begin!
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

If you ride where there are lots or streetcar/tram tracks then you NEED to learn how/when to lift your front wheel overthem. I rode over 33 years in Toronto and never had problems with the tracks even at big track intersections such as Roncesvale/Queen.King; Broadview/Dundas or Broadview/Gerrard. Like I said the trick is to lift your front wheel over the tracks. Btw, I rode all year long there.

Cheers

Cycling in Toronto
 

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 5:04:04 AM UTC-7, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
An interesting study has made the news. Street car tracks are a factor.
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral...889-016-3242-3

The methodology looks to be humanities-based and less than scientific.

Okay, let the RBT critique of the study begin!
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

I don't think it's terribly controversial. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/64/17...39a79094fb.jpg

My last crash was on lightly snow covered streetcar tracks. I saw them; I slowed; I squared up to the turn in the tracks . . . and went down. Fwooop, whap. Right on my hip. I was on lugged, studded tires, and that may have lessened my traction, but who knows. The streetcar tracks and light rail tracks through downtown PDX (they're everywhere) are certainly a lot better than standard railroad tracks in terms of wheel trapping, but during the winter/spring/fall -- well, whenever it rains (could be summer), I know they are a serious slip hazard.

-- Jay Beattie.

Cycling in Toronto
 

On 7/27/2016 10:06 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 5:04:04 AM UTC-7, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
An interesting study has made the news. Street car tracks are a factor.
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral...889-016-3242-3

The methodology looks to be humanities-based and less than scientific.

Okay, let the RBT critique of the study begin!
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

I don't think it's terribly controversial. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/64/17...39a79094fb.jpg

My last crash was on lightly snow covered streetcar tracks. I saw them; I slowed; I squared up to the turn in the tracks . . . and went down. Fwooop, whap. Right on my hip. I was on lugged, studded tires, and that may have lessened my traction, but who knows. The streetcar tracks and light rail tracks through downtown PDX (they're everywhere) are certainly a lot better than standard railroad tracks in terms of wheel trapping, but during the winter/spring/fall -- well, whenever it rains (could be summer), I know they are a serious slip hazard.

One of my only two motorcycle falls happened on wet railroad tracks. I
was moving maybe 3 mph, making a sharp turn, and neither I nor the bike
were injured. But it sure seemed like zero coefficient of friction!

--
- Frank Krygowski

Cycling in Toronto
 

On 27/07/2016 10:06 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 5:04:04 AM UTC-7, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
An interesting study has made the news. Street car tracks are a factor.
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral...889-016-3242-3

The methodology looks to be humanities-based and less than scientific.

Okay, let the RBT critique of the study begin!
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

I don't think it's terribly controversial. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/64/17...39a79094fb.jpg

My last crash was on lightly snow covered streetcar tracks. I saw them; I slowed; I squared up to the turn in the tracks . . . and went down. Fwooop, whap. Right on my hip. I was on lugged, studded tires, and that may have lessened my traction, but who knows. The streetcar tracks and light rail tracks through downtown PDX (they're everywhere) are certainly a lot better than standard railroad tracks in terms of wheel trapping, but during the winter/spring/fall -- well, whenever it rains (could be summer), I know they are a serious slip hazard.



Slippery is hard to deal with. I went down Saturday when the guy in
front of me fell around a turn. His rear wheel slipped on the painted
line that was a bit wet. In one of those time slows down things, I
remember thinking - "just like Froome" as I was trying to navigate
around him. Almost made it too but he spun a bit further than I could
avoid. No damage except some road rash on my hip and a cracked helmet.

On a side note, how is it that Assos bibs can hold up even when I get a
road rash? It was funny, I was more concerned with ripping them than
the bruise I was going to get. Last time that happened the bibs were
trashed.

Cycling in Toronto
 

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 8:10:39 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
On 27/07/2016 10:06 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 5:04:04 AM UTC-7, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
An interesting study has made the news. Street car tracks are a factor..
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral...889-016-3242-3

The methodology looks to be humanities-based and less than scientific.

Okay, let the RBT critique of the study begin!
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

I don't think it's terribly controversial. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/64/17...39a79094fb.jpg

My last crash was on lightly snow covered streetcar tracks. I saw them; I slowed; I squared up to the turn in the tracks . . . and went down. Fwooop, whap. Right on my hip. I was on lugged, studded tires, and that may have lessened my traction, but who knows. The streetcar tracks and light rail tracks through downtown PDX (they're everywhere) are certainly a lot better than standard railroad tracks in terms of wheel trapping, but during the winter/spring/fall -- well, whenever it rains (could be summer), I know they are a serious slip hazard.



Slippery is hard to deal with. I went down Saturday when the guy in
front of me fell around a turn. His rear wheel slipped on the painted
line that was a bit wet. In one of those time slows down things, I
remember thinking - "just like Froome" as I was trying to navigate
around him. Almost made it too but he spun a bit further than I could
avoid. No damage except some road rash on my hip and a cracked helmet.

On a side note, how is it that Assos bibs can hold up even when I get a
road rash? It was funny, I was more concerned with ripping them than
the bruise I was going to get. Last time that happened the bibs were
trashed.

You should get a Lloyds policy for your Assos bibs -- or else create a self-insurance reserve. Every time you ride, put a dollar in a jar, and a year later, you'll have enough to cover a new pair if something goes wrong -- assuming inflation stays low. I wonder if the decline of the Euro has made them any cheaper.

-- Jay Beattie.

Cycling in Toronto
 

On 27/07/2016 11:31 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 8:10:39 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
On 27/07/2016 10:06 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 5:04:04 AM UTC-7, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
An interesting study has made the news. Street car tracks are a factor.
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral...889-016-3242-3

The methodology looks to be humanities-based and less than scientific.

Okay, let the RBT critique of the study begin!
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

I don't think it's terribly controversial. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/64/17...39a79094fb.jpg

My last crash was on lightly snow covered streetcar tracks. I saw them; I slowed; I squared up to the turn in the tracks . . . and went down. Fwooop, whap. Right on my hip. I was on lugged, studded tires, and that may have lessened my traction, but who knows. The streetcar tracks and light rail tracks through downtown PDX (they're everywhere) are certainly a lot better than standard railroad tracks in terms of wheel trapping, but during the winter/spring/fall -- well, whenever it rains (could be summer), I know they are a serious slip hazard.



Slippery is hard to deal with. I went down Saturday when the guy in
front of me fell around a turn. His rear wheel slipped on the painted
line that was a bit wet. In one of those time slows down things, I
remember thinking - "just like Froome" as I was trying to navigate
around him. Almost made it too but he spun a bit further than I could
avoid. No damage except some road rash on my hip and a cracked helmet.

On a side note, how is it that Assos bibs can hold up even when I get a
road rash? It was funny, I was more concerned with ripping them than
the bruise I was going to get. Last time that happened the bibs were
trashed.

You should get a Lloyds policy for your Assos bibs -- or else create a self-insurance reserve. Every time you ride, put a dollar in a jar, and a year later, you'll have enough to cover a new pair if something goes wrong -- assuming inflation stays low. I wonder if the decline of the Euro has made them any cheaper.


Maybe $2 a ride...
Seriously, they held up better than my skin.

Cycling in Toronto
 

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 4:35:23 PM UTC+1, Duane wrote:
On 27/07/2016 11:31 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 8:10:39 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
On 27/07/2016 10:06 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 5:04:04 AM UTC-7, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
An interesting study has made the news. Street car tracks are a factor.
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral...889-016-3242-3

The methodology looks to be humanities-based and less than scientific.

Okay, let the RBT critique of the study begin!
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

I don't think it's terribly controversial. https://farm1.staticflickr..com/64/1...39a79094fb.jpg

My last crash was on lightly snow covered streetcar tracks. I saw them; I slowed; I squared up to the turn in the tracks . . . and went down. Fwooop, whap. Right on my hip. I was on lugged, studded tires, and that may have lessened my traction, but who knows. The streetcar tracks and light rail tracks through downtown PDX (they're everywhere) are certainly a lot better than standard railroad tracks in terms of wheel trapping, but during the winter/spring/fall -- well, whenever it rains (could be summer), I know they are a serious slip hazard.



Slippery is hard to deal with. I went down Saturday when the guy in
front of me fell around a turn. His rear wheel slipped on the painted
line that was a bit wet. In one of those time slows down things, I
remember thinking - "just like Froome" as I was trying to navigate
around him. Almost made it too but he spun a bit further than I could
avoid. No damage except some road rash on my hip and a cracked helmet..

On a side note, how is it that Assos bibs can hold up even when I get a
road rash? It was funny, I was more concerned with ripping them than
the bruise I was going to get. Last time that happened the bibs were
trashed.

You should get a Lloyds policy for your Assos bibs -- or else create a self-insurance reserve. Every time you ride, put a dollar in a jar, and a year later, you'll have enough to cover a new pair if something goes wrong -- assuming inflation stays low. I wonder if the decline of the Euro has made them any cheaper.


Maybe $2 a ride...
Seriously, they held up better than my skin.

Your skin isn't plastic.

Assos must be the most expensive plastic that hasn't yet made a Moon landing.

Andre Jute
....who wears cotton

Cycling in Toronto
 

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 12:12:59 AM UTC+1, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 4:35:23 PM UTC+1, Duane wrote:
On 27/07/2016 11:31 AM, jbeattie wrote:
You should get a Lloyds policy for your Assos bibs -- or else create a self-insurance reserve. Every time you ride, put a dollar in a jar, and a year later, you'll have enough to cover a new pair if something goes wrong -- assuming inflation stays low. I wonder if the decline of the Euro has made them any cheaper.


Maybe $2 a ride...
Seriously, they held up better than my skin.

Your skin isn't plastic.

Assos must be the most expensive plastic that hasn't yet made a Moon landing.

Andre Jute
...who wears cotton

PS I don't know whether the Euro declined. I live in a Eurocurrency country, Ireland, and the banknotes (Americans call them bills) appear to be still the same size, and not more bowed under debt than before.

However, the pound (Sterling) has fallen so drastically that I'm splurging on art supplies from British mail order merchants. You should get in before sterling, basically a sound currency, recovers.

Andre Jute
Can you spare a dime, buddy? -- lyric embodying the gestalt of an era before any of us were born

Cycling in Toronto
 

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 12:46:11 AM UTC+1, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 12:12:59 AM UTC+1, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 4:35:23 PM UTC+1, Duane wrote:
On 27/07/2016 11:31 AM, jbeattie wrote:
You should get a Lloyds policy for your Assos bibs -- or else create a self-insurance reserve. Every time you ride, put a dollar in a jar, and a year later, you'll have enough to cover a new pair if something goes wrong -- assuming inflation stays low. I wonder if the decline of the Euro has made them any cheaper.


Maybe $2 a ride...
Seriously, they held up better than my skin.

Your skin isn't plastic.

Assos must be the most expensive plastic that hasn't yet made a Moon landing.

Andre Jute
...who wears cotton

PS I don't know whether the Euro declined. I live in a Eurocurrency country, Ireland, and the banknotes (Americans call them bills) appear to be still the same size, and not more bowed under debt than before.

However, the pound (Sterling) has fallen so drastically that I'm splurging on art supplies from British mail order merchants. You should get in before sterling, basically a sound currency, recovers.

Andre Jute
Can you spare a dime, buddy? -- lyric embodying the gestalt of an era before any of us were born

PPS Or before those merchants discover that restocking from the Continent will be quite a bit pricier than they're used to and switch to last-in-first-out pricing policy to protect their margins. – AJ