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Gags February 3rd 08 11:43 AM

Truth in advertising???
 
Check out the description on these bikes......$1495 ORP???? I don't think
so!!!

http://www.graysonline.com.au/lot.asp?LOT_ID=2344132#



Resound[_2_] February 3rd 08 07:35 PM

Truth in advertising???
 

"Gags" wrote in message
...
Check out the description on these bikes......$1495 ORP???? I don't
think so!!!

http://www.graysonline.com.au/lot.asp?LOT_ID=2344132#


Do Shimano still *do* 7spd rear cassettes?



BT Humble February 3rd 08 09:38 PM

Truth in advertising???
 
Resound wrote:
"Gags" wrote in message

Check out the description on these bikes......$1495 ORP???? * I don't
think so!!!


http://www.graysonline.com.au/lot.asp?LOT_ID=2344132#


Do Shimano still *do* 7spd rear cassettes?


Dunno, but they certainly still make 7-speed freewheels. ;-)

When I saw $1495 and graysonline, my first thought was "I wonder how
many of them are in the lot?" ;-)


BTH

ray February 3rd 08 11:16 PM

Truth in advertising???
 
Gags wrote:
Check out the description on these bikes......$1495 ORP???? I don't think
so!!!

http://www.graysonline.com.au/lot.asp?LOT_ID=2344132#


Isn't `truth in advertising' an oxymoron to start with?

Bean Long February 4th 08 12:43 AM

Truth in advertising???
 
BT Humble wrote:
Resound wrote:
"Gags" wrote in message

Check out the description on these bikes......$1495 ORP???? I don't
think so!!!
http://www.graysonline.com.au/lot.asp?LOT_ID=2344132#

Do Shimano still *do* 7spd rear cassettes?


Dunno, but they certainly still make 7-speed freewheels. ;-)

When I saw $1495 and graysonline, my first thought was "I wonder how
many of them are in the lot?" ;-)


BTH


An apparently it's a RACING bike! Ha! You wouldn't just be laughed out
of the bunch with a bike like that, you'd be spat out! Clipping in looks
a bit hard for starters!

BT Humble February 4th 08 02:15 AM

Truth in advertising???
 
Bean Long wrote:
BTHumble wrote:
Resound wrote:
"Gags" wrote in message


Check out the description on these bikes......$1495 ORP???? * I don't
think so!!!
http://www.graysonline.com.au/lot.asp?LOT_ID=2344132#
Do Shimano still *do* 7spd rear cassettes?


Dunno, but they certainly still make 7-speed freewheels. ;-)


When I saw $1495 and graysonline, my first thought was "I wonder how
many of them are in the lot?" ;-)


An apparently it's a RACING bike! Ha! You wouldn't just be laughed out
of the bunch with a bike like that, you'd be spat out! Clipping in looks
a bit hard for starters!


Now now, I reckon it'd be a good club racing bike for the likes of
Lance Armstrong - you'd probably have to make him carry some ballast
as well, though. ;-)

Having a look at image #6, I really do suspect that it has a screw-on
freewheel. Especially likely given the steel triple chainring,
plastic platform pedals and claw-mounted rear derailleur. Those
brakes look pretty nasty, too.

Incidentally, why do roadies have such a loathing for triple front
chainrings? Is it just a machismo thing, or does it have some logical
basis?


BTH

Zebee Johnstone February 4th 08 02:45 AM

Truth in advertising???
 
In aus.bicycle on Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:15:33 -0800 (PST)
BT Humble wrote:
Incidentally, why do roadies have such a loathing for triple front
chainrings? Is it just a machismo thing, or does it have some logical
basis?


Have you any idea how much a sprocket weighs?

Save .43 grams by carbon fibre bar tape, and you want to add a
whole sprocket?

Zebee

TimC February 4th 08 03:18 AM

Truth in advertising???
 
On 2008-02-04, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
In aus.bicycle on Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:15:33 -0800 (PST)
BT Humble wrote:
Incidentally, why do roadies have such a loathing for triple front
chainrings? Is it just a machismo thing, or does it have some logical
basis?


Have you any idea how much a sprocket weighs?

Save .43 grams by carbon fibre bar tape, and you want to add a
whole sprocket?


Does suck to drop a chain though, especially in the middle of a bunch.
Pity deda fangs (or the like) don't come standard on the kind of bikes
that have triples. I had to jury rig mine on, because it was too
small for the seat tube, despite it being the largest one available.
Haven't dropped a chain since.

Harder to set up precisely and reliably too - mis-shifts are very
common on triples.

And finally, triples always seem to be on 8 speed bikes. Why not just
go 10 speed with a double?

--
TimC
Chuck Norris stops his fixie by putting his beard on the front tire.
....and he'd kill you with his bare hands for mentioning yourself in the
same sentence. -- Donga in aus.bicycle

Bean Long February 4th 08 04:36 AM

Truth in advertising???
 
BT Humble wrote:

Incidentally, why do roadies have such a loathing for triple front
chainrings? Is it just a machismo thing, or does it have some logical
basis?


I have several roadie friends with triples. Mind you, the people I know
that have them don't really need them. For most roadies its unneeded
gearing. I know others with compact cranks to sort out the low end. It's
all personal preference. In a race situation you'd only ever use the
triple during disastrously steep hill-climbing scenarios (we have quite
a few in CBR)and even then there'd be someone grinding out in a bigger
gear and sailing past you up the hill while you spin.

Nick Payne February 4th 08 11:12 AM

Truth in advertising???
 
"BT Humble" wrote in message
...

Incidentally, why do roadies have such a loathing for triple front
chainrings? Is it just a machismo thing, or does it have some logical
basis?

I have a loathing for triple front chainrings, but I throw away the large
one, not the small one. See, for example,
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc...payne0507.html.

As for roadies not liking/using triple rings, in a road race you either keep
up with the bunch or you might as well not be there, and you certainly won't
manage it if you drop down to the granny ring. Plus having the 3rd chainring
there buggers up the chainline for the two large rings.

Nick



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