Krygowski's "polished talking points" are politics, not truth
 

On Sep 5, 7:29*pm, Dan O wrote:
On Sep 5, 8:55 am, Frank Krygowski wrote:

snip

*You don't know so much as you think you do.
This is some serious knee-jerk adversarialism you're locked into.
Just because you've stuffed a big bag full of data and polished (and
polished, and polished) a bunch of talking points doesn't make you
right or anyone else wrong.

Anyone with "polished (and polished, and polished) [...] talking
points" is an obsessed apparatchik who *needs* to polish those
received "talking points" because he can't think for himself.

That's how come Franki-boy makes a fool of himself by throwing out
totally irrelevant "confounding factors" he picked up on the netsites
of the AHZ; because he can't think for himself, those received but
"polished talking points" are all he has: they have to fit all cases.

Trying to discuss statistics, which are the essence of applied
science, with Frank Krygowski throws up the same problems as arguing
with Marxists, Moonies, Scientologists, Hare Krishna, Mormons and
snake-charming Fundamentalists who think the world started in 4044BC:
you're not dealing with reason, you're dealing with the emotive rote-
learned "facts" of a perverted faith.

Andre Jute
A little, a very little thought will suffice -- John Maynard Keynes

Krygowski's "polished talking points" are politics, not truth
 

On Sep 6, 4:54*am, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 5, 7:29*pm, Dan O wrote:

On Sep 5, 8:55 am, Frank Krygowski wrote:

snip

*You don't know so much as you think you do.
This is some serious knee-jerk adversarialism you're locked into.
Just because you've stuffed a big bag full of data and polished (and
polished, and polished) a bunch of talking points doesn't make you
right or anyone else wrong.

Anyone with "polished (and polished, and polished) [...] talking
points" is an obsessed apparatchik who *needs* to polish those
received "talking points" because he can't think for himself.

You know, I've heard it said "You can't polish ****." The Myth
Busters tried, but they weren't very successful.

JS.

Krygowski's "polished talking points" are politics, not truth
 

On Sep 6, 12:29*am, James wrote:
On Sep 6, 4:54*am, Andre Jute wrote:

On Sep 5, 7:29*pm, Dan O wrote:

On Sep 5, 8:55 am, Frank Krygowski wrote:

snip

*You don't know so much as you think you do.
This is some serious knee-jerk adversarialism you're locked into.
Just because you've stuffed a big bag full of data and polished (and
polished, and polished) a bunch of talking points doesn't make you
right or anyone else wrong.

Anyone with "polished (and polished, and polished) [...] talking
points" is an obsessed apparatchik who *needs* to polish those
received "talking points" because he can't think for himself.

You know, I've heard it said "You can't polish ****." *The Myth
Busters tried, but they weren't very successful.

JS.

I used to work in advertising. Occasionally one would hear somone brag
that he could "sell any old ****". I wouldn't ever hire those because,
besides reasons of professional pride and principle, I thought they
were bull****ters. Nobody can polish ****, as you say. But Krygowski
got away with chanting his idiotic mantras so long that I can't help
wondering how many obsessed wishful thinkers (i.e. really stupid
people) there are in cycling. -- Andre Jute

Krygowski's "polished talking points" are politics, not truth
 

On Sep 6, 10:20*am, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sep 6, 12:29*am, James wrote:



On Sep 6, 4:54*am, Andre Jute wrote:

On Sep 5, 7:29*pm, Dan O wrote:

On Sep 5, 8:55 am, Frank Krygowski wrote:

snip

*You don't know so much as you think you do.
This is some serious knee-jerk adversarialism you're locked into.
Just because you've stuffed a big bag full of data and polished (and
polished, and polished) a bunch of talking points doesn't make you
right or anyone else wrong.

Anyone with "polished (and polished, and polished) [...] talking
points" is an obsessed apparatchik who *needs* to polish those
received "talking points" because he can't think for himself.

You know, I've heard it said "You can't polish ****." *The Myth
Busters tried, but they weren't very successful.

JS.

I used to work in advertising. Occasionally one would hear somone brag
that he could "sell any old ****". I wouldn't ever hire those because,
besides reasons of professional pride and principle, I thought they
were bull****ters. Nobody can polish ****, as you say. But Krygowski
got away with chanting his idiotic mantras so long that I can't help
wondering how many obsessed wishful thinkers (i.e. really stupid
people) there are in cycling. -- Andre Jute

The problem with salesmen (and women) who can "sell any old ****" is
that often they sell what customers want, rather than what the sales
team agreed to and the engineers designed. Happened all too often
from a certain salesman in the US who worked for the company where I
worked before. "Yeah, I've sold another 10 units, but they need
feature X implemented before the end of tomorrow."

Then there's the engineers who don't realise that all constants should
be treated as variables, so that feature X could be just a tweak of
setting B, insertion of module M, and a new menu entry in XML doc F.

Sorry - rambling. FK and coffee should not be taken together. Well
aged port would be better.

JS.