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[email protected] February 27th 09 06:01 PM

King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
 
On Feb 25, 9:33*pm, Steve Sr. wrote:
Hello,

A while back I put 2 King Cage (www.kingcage.com) stainless steel
watter bottle cages on my regular road bike. About a month ago on a
ride the seat tube cage broke at the bottom mounting bracket weld. Now
inspecting the other cage it is about to fail as well in the same
manner. Looks like metal fatigue.

Have any of you seen this before? Other than the durability issue
these seem to be nice cages.

Are there any other stainless steel cages that are more durable?

Thanks,

Steve


****can those King cages and get yerself summa thoze Nitto "R" cages
that are shaped like an hourglass. I'll bet that one of those gems
has never failed in real-life. Sure, they're pricey compared to other
non-CFRP cages but there prolly ain't a more beautiful and functional
piece of bike crap in the whole world. Plus which, they really aren't
that expensive compared to the CFRP ones that most idiots buy today.

SMS February 27th 09 06:27 PM

King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
 
wrote:

****can those King cages and get yerself summa thoze Nitto "R" cages
that are shaped like an hourglass. I'll bet that one of those gems
has never failed in real-life. Sure, they're pricey compared to other
non-CFRP cages but there prolly ain't a more beautiful and functional
piece of bike crap in the whole world. Plus which, they really aren't
that expensive compared to the CFRP ones that most idiots buy today.


I think that anyone that spends $50 on a Nitto cage is as equally
idiotic as someone that buys a carbon fiber cage.

Actually there are some reasons to buy a non-metal cage, but an
injection molded fiberglas reinforced nylon cage is sufficient if you
want to carry something like a steel vacuum bottle or steel vacuum
commuter cup. The Profile Kage from Profile Design costs $3.49 at
PricePoint, "http://tinyurl.com/profilekage".

They also have a stainless steel cage,
"http://tinyurl.com/settestainlesscage"

You know that there is no recession as long as people are buying $50
water bottle cages.



Tom Sherman[_2_] February 27th 09 11:23 PM

King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
 
SMS aka Steven M. Scharf wrote:
wrote:

****can those King cages and get yerself summa thoze Nitto "R" cages
that are shaped like an hourglass. I'll bet that one of those gems
has never failed in real-life. Sure, they're pricey compared to other
non-CFRP cages but there prolly ain't a more beautiful and functional
piece of bike crap in the whole world. Plus which, they really aren't
that expensive compared to the CFRP ones that most idiots buy today.


I think that anyone that spends $50 on a Nitto cage is as equally
idiotic as someone that buys a carbon fiber cage.

Actually there are some reasons to buy a non-metal cage, but an
injection molded fiberglas reinforced nylon cage is sufficient if you
want to carry something like a steel vacuum bottle or steel vacuum
commuter cup. The Profile Kage from Profile Design costs $3.49 at
PricePoint, "http://tinyurl.com/profilekage".

They also have a stainless steel cage,
"http://tinyurl.com/settestainlesscage"

You know that there is no recession as long as people are buying $50
water bottle cages.

What is the strongest cage on the market?

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the cage,
so I tend to break them frequently.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

SMS February 27th 09 11:52 PM

King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
 
Tom Sherman wrote:

What is the strongest cage on the market?


Unknown. Based on looking at the construction quality, I'd say the Forte
Performance Terra Lite Stainless MTB Cage is one of the strongest.
Better design than the King Cages in terms of how the mounting plate is
welded to the tubing.

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the cage,
so I tend to break them frequently.


The solution isn't a stronger cage, which will transfer the force to the
braze-ons and damage the frame, especially if it's an aluminum frame
with Rivnuts.

I'd buy a set of
"http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB=%273242-00%27"
and mount them snug, but not so tight that they can't rotate around the
tube (assuming it's round tubing!).

I use these on one of my folding bikes where it's necessary to rotate
the cage out the way when folding the bike.

Carl Sundquist February 28th 09 12:08 AM

King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
 
Tom Sherman wrote:
SMS aka Steven M. Scharf wrote:
wrote:

****can those King cages and get yerself summa thoze Nitto "R" cages
that are shaped like an hourglass. I'll bet that one of those gems
has never failed in real-life. Sure, they're pricey compared to other
non-CFRP cages but there prolly ain't a more beautiful and functional
piece of bike crap in the whole world. Plus which, they really aren't
that expensive compared to the CFRP ones that most idiots buy today.


I think that anyone that spends $50 on a Nitto cage is as equally
idiotic as someone that buys a carbon fiber cage.

Actually there are some reasons to buy a non-metal cage, but an
injection molded fiberglas reinforced nylon cage is sufficient if you
want to carry something like a steel vacuum bottle or steel vacuum
commuter cup. The Profile Kage from Profile Design costs $3.49 at
PricePoint, "http://tinyurl.com/profilekage".

They also have a stainless steel cage,
"http://tinyurl.com/settestainlesscage"

You know that there is no recession as long as people are buying $50
water bottle cages.

What is the strongest cage on the market?

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the cage,
so I tend to break them frequently.


Where is ShelBroCo when you need them?

SMS February 28th 09 12:21 AM

King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
 
Carl Sundquist wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
SMS aka Steven M. Scharf wrote:
wrote:

****can those King cages and get yerself summa thoze Nitto "R" cages
that are shaped like an hourglass. I'll bet that one of those gems
has never failed in real-life. Sure, they're pricey compared to other
non-CFRP cages but there prolly ain't a more beautiful and functional
piece of bike crap in the whole world. Plus which, they really aren't
that expensive compared to the CFRP ones that most idiots buy today.

I think that anyone that spends $50 on a Nitto cage is as equally
idiotic as someone that buys a carbon fiber cage.

Actually there are some reasons to buy a non-metal cage, but an
injection molded fiberglas reinforced nylon cage is sufficient if you
want to carry something like a steel vacuum bottle or steel vacuum
commuter cup. The Profile Kage from Profile Design costs $3.49 at
PricePoint, "http://tinyurl.com/profilekage".

They also have a stainless steel cage,
"http://tinyurl.com/settestainlesscage"

You know that there is no recession as long as people are buying $50
water bottle cages.

What is the strongest cage on the market?

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the
cage, so I tend to break them frequently.


Where is ShelBroCo when you need them?


I think he had a concrete cage to go with the concrete seat.

[email protected] February 28th 09 01:20 AM

King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
 
On Feb 27, 1:27*pm, SMS wrote:

I think that anyone that spends $50 on a Nitto cage is as equally
idiotic as someone that buys a carbon fiber cage.


Not equal at all. Nitto = beauty = Idiot with class. CFRP = hideous
= Idiot that is trying hard to become a moron. I got my Nittos when
they were only $38 and when my 401K was going to let me retire before
I turned 85.


You know that there is no recession as long as people are buying $50
water bottle cages.


Or $900 cranksets or $500 brake calipers or $5000 plastic frames or
$2000 wheels or {insert yer favorite overpriced bike gewgaw here}.

Clive George February 28th 09 01:45 AM

King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
 
wrote in message
...

Or $900 cranksets or $500 brake calipers or $5000 plastic frames or
$2000 wheels or {insert yer favorite overpriced bike gewgaw here}.


Just saw this one the other day -

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Li...ur/5360040339/




Carl Sundquist February 28th 09 02:17 AM

King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
 
Clive George wrote:
wrote in message
...

Or $900 cranksets or $500 brake calipers or $5000 plastic frames or
$2000 wheels or {insert yer favorite overpriced bike gewgaw here}.


Just saw this one the other day -

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Li...ur/5360040339/




http://www.poshbikes.com/product.php?id=254

http://www.b-t-p.de/B-T-P_Team/b-t-p_team1.html

Nicholas Grieco February 28th 09 02:20 AM

King Cage - Bottle Cage Failures
 
On Feb 27, 3:52*pm, SMS wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
What is the strongest cage on the market?


Unknown. Based on looking at the construction quality, I'd say the Forte
Performance Terra Lite Stainless MTB Cage is one of the strongest.
Better design than the King Cages in terms of how the mounting plate is
welded to the tubing.

When I lay my lowracer down on the non drive side, it rests on the cage,
so I tend to break them frequently.


The solution isn't a stronger cage, which will transfer the force to the
braze-ons and damage the frame, especially if it's an aluminum frame
with Rivnuts.

I'd buy a set of
"http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB=%273242-00%27"
and mount them snug, but not so tight that they can't rotate around the
tube (assuming it's round tubing!).

I use these on one of my folding bikes where it's necessary to rotate
the cage out the way when folding the bike.


The TwoFish stainless 'quick cage' is a nice solution:
http://www.twofish.biz/bike.html


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