UK cyclists kill or maim two people a week
 

We were told that their low inertia and rotating couples couldn't hurt a
fly, so this cannot be true? Can it?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/863...ans-every-week

UK cyclists kill or maim two people a week
 

On 08/10/2017 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:
We were told that their low inertia and rotating couples couldn't hurt a
fly, so this cannot be true?Â* Can it?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/863...ans-every-week

UK road casualties - Brake the road safety charity
http://www.brake.org.uk/facts-resour...oad-casualties

In 2015, there were 1,730 people killed, 22,144 people seriously injured
on the ... In 2015, *the highest percentage of casualties were car
users*, both drivers ... There were 408 pedestrian deaths in the UK in
2015, an 9% reduction since 2014.

--
Bod

UK cyclists kill or maim two people a week
 

On 08/10/2017 09:25, Bod wrote:
On 08/10/2017 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:
We were told that their low inertia and rotating couples couldn't hurt
a fly, so this cannot be true?Â* Can it?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/863...ans-every-week

UK road casualties - Brake the road safety charity
http://www.brake.org.uk/facts-resour...oad-casualties

In 2015, there were 1,730 people killed, 22,144 people seriously injured
on the ... In 2015, *the highest percentage of casualties were car
users*, both drivers ... There were 408 pedestrian deaths in the UK in
2015, an 9% reduction since 2014.

Casualties by road user type

In 2015, the highest percentage of casualties were car users, both
drivers and passengers, who accounted for 44% of road deaths (754) in
the UK. [15] During the same period, car and taxi traffic in Great
Britain rose by 1.1%, reaching a new high, and exceeding the previous
peak in 2007. [16]

--
Bod

Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore
 

On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:42:21 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

UK road casualties - Brake the road safety charity
http://www.brake.org.uk/facts-resour...oad-casualties

In 2015, there were 1,730 people killed, 22,144 people seriously injured
on the ... In 2015, *the highest percentage of casualties were car
users*, both drivers ... There were 408 pedestrian deaths in the UK in
2015, an 9% reduction since 2014.

The pedestrian is almost always to blame. FFS, look before crossing!

You HAD to "contribute" with yet more of your notorious idiocy, eh,
Birdbrain?

--
Birdbrain Macaw's (now "James Wilkinson" LOL) scientific "mind" at work
again:
"Try this - have some sort of inflated thing with no
hole, and lie on the floor with it on your chest. Have a friend drop a
large rock onto it. Now try dropping the same rock directly onto you.
Even without doing it, it's obvious which would hurt more."
MID:

UK cyclists kill or maim two people a week
 

On 08/10/17 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:
We were told that their low inertia and rotating couples couldn't
hurt a fly,

*We* have not been told this.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/863...ans-every-week

....compared to the 10 a week killed and 100 a week injured by drivers.

UK cyclists kill or maim two people a week
 

On 09/10/17 00:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 08/10/17 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:
We were told that their low inertia and rotating couples couldn't
hurt a fly,

*We* have not been told this.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/863...ans-every-week

...compared to the 10 a week killed and 100 a week injured by drivers.

On Jeremy Vine yesterday (I can't a weblink to the story), a case of
driver being cleared of killing someone on a zebra crossing helps build
a case of there being one law for drivers and another for cyclists.

Actually, the figures above are interesting. We are told that cycle
journeys represent 2% of road journeys (I can't be bothered to verify).
The figures show that injuries involving bicycles are about 2% (*) of
those involving motor vehicles.

But 6.8% of the injuries involving motor vehicles lead to death, whereas
only 1.8% of the injuries involving a bicycle do so. Which also means
that out of the whole spectrum of non-fatal injuries, those from a
bicycle must be much less severe. So yes, it demonstrates that bicycles
are considerably less dangerous.

(*) Direct correlation or coincidence? Impossible to know because it is
likely that a greater proportion of vehicle journeys are through
non-dense urban areas or that pedestrians stay out of the way of areas
with heavy traffic.

UK cyclists kill or maim two people a week
 

TMS320 wrote in :

On 09/10/17 00:12, TMS320 wrote:
On 08/10/17 08:52, MrCheerful wrote:
We were told that their low inertia and rotating couples couldn't
hurt a fly,

*We* have not been told this.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/863...bicycle-accide
nt-two-pedestrians-every-week


The Department of Transport data, which does not state who is at fault in
the accidents, shows three pedestrians were killed in crashes with bikes
last year and another 112 were seriously injured.

In a year


...compared to the 10 a week killed and 100 a week injured by
drivers.

*52

On Jeremy Vine yesterday (I can't a weblink to the story), a case of
driver being cleared of killing someone on a zebra crossing helps
build a case of there being one law for drivers and another for
cyclists.

Actually, the figures above are interesting. We are told that cycle
journeys represent 2% of road journeys (I can't be bothered to
verify). The figures show that injuries involving bicycles are about
2% (*) of those involving motor vehicles.

But 6.8% of the injuries involving motor vehicles lead to death,
whereas only 1.8% of the injuries involving a bicycle do so. Which
also means that out of the whole spectrum of non-fatal injuries, those
from a bicycle must be much less severe. So yes, it demonstrates that
bicycles are considerably less dangerous.

(*) Direct correlation or coincidence? Impossible to know because it
is likely that a greater proportion of vehicle journeys are through
non-dense urban areas or that pedestrians stay out of the way of areas
with heavy traffic.


Please stop posting relevant information; it upsets the regular trolls.
TIA.

UK cyclists kill or maim two people a week
 

On 10/10/17 13:23, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

Please stop posting relevant information; it upsets the regular
trolls. TIA.

One can always hope that their heads will explode.

UK cyclists kill or maim two people a week
 

On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:09:04 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

But 6.8% of the injuries involving motor vehicles lead to death, whereas
only 1.8% of the injuries involving a bicycle do so. Which also means
that out of the whole spectrum of non-fatal injuries, those from a
bicycle must be much less severe. So yes, it demonstrates that bicycles
are considerably less dangerous.

Per distance traveled push bikes and cars cause quite similar levels
of death to pedestrians but push bikes cause significantly more
serious injuries than cars.

In 2016 pedal cyclists killed 0.9 pedestrians per billion km
traveled. They seriously injured 31.

Cars killed 1.1 and seriously injured 16 so similar death rates for
both but Pushbikes seriously injured twice as many as cars.

In terms of accident numbers, Pushbikes were involved in 5,430
accidents per billion km, cars in 476 so Pushbikes were involved in
about 11 times more accidents.

Pedestrians hit by a pushbike were 133, by a car 75.

(Reported casualty and accident rates by urban and rural roads, road
class, road user type, severity and pedestrian involvement, Great
Britain, 2016 Table RAS30018)

About 16% of fatal or serious cyclist accidents reported to the police
do not involve a collision with another vehicle, but are caused by the
rider losing control of their bicycle. In these cases about a quarter
involved excessive alcohol.

UK cyclists kill or maim two people a week
 

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 5:42:41 PM UTC+1, Peter Parry wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:09:04 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

But 6.8% of the injuries involving motor vehicles lead to death, whereas
only 1.8% of the injuries involving a bicycle do so. Which also means
that out of the whole spectrum of non-fatal injuries, those from a
bicycle must be much less severe. So yes, it demonstrates that bicycles
are considerably less dangerous.

Per distance traveled push bikes and cars cause quite similar levels
of death to pedestrians but push bikes cause significantly more
serious injuries than cars.

In 2016 pedal cyclists killed 0.9 pedestrians per billion km
traveled. They seriously injured 31.

Cars killed 1.1 and seriously injured 16 so similar death rates for
both but Pushbikes seriously injured twice as many as cars.

In terms of accident numbers, Pushbikes were involved in 5,430
accidents per billion km, cars in 476 so Pushbikes were involved in
about 11 times more accidents.

Pedestrians hit by a pushbike were 133, by a car 75.

(Reported casualty and accident rates by urban and rural roads, road
class, road user type, severity and pedestrian involvement, Great
Britain, 2016 Table RAS30018)

About 16% of fatal or serious cyclist accidents reported to the police
do not involve a collision with another vehicle, but are caused by the
rider losing control of their bicycle. In these cases about a quarter
involved excessive alcohol.

Do these figure take into account that the majority of car miles are on trunk roads where there are few, if any, pedestrians? Whilst bicycles spend most of their time in urban environments.

If not then they are worthless.