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Mrcheerful[_2_] January 4th 11 10:21 AM

when will they learn?
 
Leave a gap, don't travel so close. It really is not rocket science.

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/bury_st_e...ation_1_765775



Colin Nelson January 4th 11 12:51 PM

when will they learn?
 


Mrcheerful wrote:
Leave a gap, don't travel so close. It really is not rocket

science.


http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/bury_st_e...ation_1_765775

Indeed, using the road safely certainly isn't rocket science (but
'accidents' do occur)

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/henley_vi..._pole_1_765836

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/orwell_br...ash_1_ 765798


Know what I mean nudge, nudge, wink, wink.


--
Colin N.

Lincolnshire is mostly flat ... But the wind is mostly in your face


Mrcheerful[_2_] January 4th 11 01:43 PM

when will they learn?
 
Colin Nelson wrote:
Mrcheerful wrote:
Leave a gap, don't travel so close. It really is not rocket science.


http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/bury_st_e...ation_1_765775

Indeed, using the road safely certainly isn't rocket science (but
'accidents' do occur)


riding a pack of bikes so close that their wheels touch is not an accident,
it is criminal recklessness, brought about by a selfish disregard of others'
safety.



[email protected][_2_] January 4th 11 02:54 PM

when will they learn?
 
On Jan 4, 1:43*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:


riding a pack of bikes so close that their wheels touch is not an accident,
it is criminal recklessness, brought about by a selfish disregard of others'
safety.



Riding in a group is a fun healthy activity that thousands of
cyclists take part in every week. Occasionally wheels touch and some
people come down. Sometimes this results in minor injuries, sometimes
more major. It's a known and expected consequence of riding in a
group.

It is not criminal.

You really do need to get a sense of perspective.

--
Dan

Matt B January 4th 11 03:49 PM

when will they learn?
 
On 04/01/2011 14:54, wrote:
On Jan 4, 1:43 pm, wrote:


riding a pack of bikes so close that their wheels touch is not an accident,
it is criminal recklessness, brought about by a selfish disregard of others'
safety.



Riding in a group is a fun healthy activity that thousands of
cyclists take part in every week. Occasionally wheels touch and some
people come down. Sometimes this results in minor injuries, sometimes
more major. It's a known and expected consequence of riding in a
group.

It is not criminal.


Presumably, especially given the serious injuries involved and that it
occurred on a public road, a police investigation will examine the
likelihood that any offences or Highway Code breaches were committed.

--
Matt B

[email protected][_2_] January 4th 11 03:51 PM

when will they learn?
 
On Jan 4, 3:49*pm, Matt B wrote:


Presumably, especially given the serious injuries involved and that it
occurred on a public road, a police investigation will examine the
likelihood that any offences or Highway Code breaches were committed.


No idea.

My initial guess is it's much like any activity a group of people
take part in, and the police would be involved if somebody makes a
complaint against others.

--
Dan

Mrcheerful[_2_] January 4th 11 04:03 PM

when will they learn?
 
Matt B wrote:
On 04/01/2011 14:54, wrote:
On Jan 4, 1:43 pm, wrote:


riding a pack of bikes so close that their wheels touch is not an
accident, it is criminal recklessness, brought about by a selfish
disregard of others' safety.



Riding in a group is a fun healthy activity that thousands of
cyclists take part in every week. Occasionally wheels touch and some
people come down. Sometimes this results in minor injuries, sometimes
more major. It's a known and expected consequence of riding in a
group.

It is not criminal.


Presumably, especially given the serious injuries involved and that it
occurred on a public road, a police investigation will examine the
likelihood that any offences or Highway Code breaches were committed.


ha, ha, good one!



JNugent[_7_] January 4th 11 04:12 PM

when will they learn?
 
On 04/01/2011 14:54, wrote:

On Jan 4, 1:43 pm, wrote:


riding a pack of bikes so close that their wheels touch is not an accident,
it is criminal recklessness, brought about by a selfish disregard of others'
safety.


Riding in a group is a fun healthy activity that thousands of
cyclists take part in every week. Occasionally wheels touch and some
people come down. Sometimes this results in minor injuries, sometimes
more major. It's a known and expected consequence of riding in a
group.


"Expected" by whom?

[email protected][_2_] January 4th 11 04:36 PM

when will they learn?
 
On Jan 4, 4:12*pm, JNugent wrote:


"Expected" by whom?


I'm talking about the cyclists in the group, at least that's my
understanding having ridden in groups, and having had others explain
the rules under which they operate (signals given, etiquette, etc.)

If you're not in the group, then you would just operate as normal,
so if you're in a car, no need to do anything different. Leave
sufficient stopping distance, and overtake when appropriate.

--
Dan

JNugent[_7_] January 4th 11 04:49 PM

when will they learn?
 
On 04/01/2011 16:36, wrote:
On Jan 4, 4:12 pm, wrote:


"Expected" by whom?


I'm talking about the cyclists in the group, at least that's my
understanding having ridden in groups, and having had others explain
the rules under which they operate (signals given, etiquette, etc.)

If you're not in the group, then you would just operate as normal,
so if you're in a car, no need to do anything different. Leave
sufficient stopping distance, and overtake when appropriate.


They *expect* to be involved in collisions on a particular run and still go
ahead?

Just imagine what some might say if the same were true of groups of drivers
off for a group outing somewhwre.


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