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Erness Wild April 10th 09 05:16 PM

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I was "lucky?". Going for a ride on my old 10 speed had me more
interested in how it was working mechanically than remembering to
look for occupied parked cars. Sure enough as I came along side a
parked car the driver decided to begin a u-turn. We missed each other.
I last had that close call on a motorcyle over ten years ago. Each one
brings a sudden wake up call. Most of the street where I ride don't
have parked cars, which probably makes for being less prepared for it.

--
A website is a place, where, when you go there, it does everything
possible to distract you, from finding the information you came there
to see.- E.W.

DanKMTB April 10th 09 06:27 PM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
On Apr 10, 12:16*pm, Erness Wild wrote:
I was "lucky?". Going for a ride on my old 10 speed had me more
interested in how it was working mechanically than remembering to
look for occupied parked cars. Sure enough as I came along side a
parked car the driver decided to begin a u-turn. We missed each other.
I last had that close call on a motorcyle over ten years ago. Each one
brings a sudden wake up call. Most of the street where I ride don't
have parked cars, which probably makes for being less prepared for it.

--
A website is a place, where, when you go there, it does everything
possible to distract you, from finding the information you came there
to see.- E.W.


I had a near hit myself yesterday. I'm generally really good about
staying out of the door zone, but this was a wierd situation. A big
truck that's always parked at the local sub shop on RT-1 by the
rotary, over the curb on the grass, opened the door. I was pretty
close to the curb, since I was coming out of a rotary into a 50MPH
zone. No harm, no foul, but it was a reminder to stay away from ALL
the doors, not just the cars parked on the side of the street. Never
gave this trucks location any thought in the past, something about it
being over a curb, elevated and what looked to be far enough from the
road had me flying past it for years now.

Erness Wild April 10th 09 08:02 PM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
DanKMTB wrote:
I had a near hit myself yesterday. I'm generally really good about
staying out of the door zone, but this was a wierd situation. A big
truck that's always parked at the local sub shop on RT-1 by the
rotary, over the curb on the grass, opened the door. I was pretty
close to the curb, since I was coming out of a rotary into a 50MPH
zone. No harm, no foul, but it was a reminder to stay away from ALL
the doors, not just the cars parked on the side of the street. Never
gave this trucks location any thought in the past, something about it
being over a curb, elevated and what looked to be far enough from the
road had me flying past it for years now.


A u-turn miss and a door miss. Interesting on the door obstacle. Now
if cars that had to drive on the right side of the road had right hand
drive there would be less incidents. Like-a-wise if left hand drive
cars drove on the left side of the street, drivers would always be
getting out on the curb side, which seems safer all around.

--
A website is a place, where, when you go there, it does everything
possible to distract you, from finding the information you came there
to see.- E.W.

[email protected] April 10th 09 08:12 PM

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On Apr 10, 2:02*pm, Erness Wild wrote:
DanKMTB wrote:
I had a near hit myself yesterday. *I'm generally really good about
staying out of the door zone, but this was a wierd situation. *A big
truck that's always parked at the local sub shop on RT-1 by the
rotary, over the curb on the grass, opened the door. *I was pretty
close to the curb, since I was coming out of a rotary into a 50MPH
zone. *No harm, no foul, but it was a reminder to stay away from ALL
the doors, not just the cars parked on the side of the street. *Never
gave this trucks location any thought in the past, something about it
being over a curb, elevated and what looked to be far enough from the
road had me flying past it for years now.


A u-turn miss and a door miss. Interesting on the door obstacle. Now
if cars that had to drive on the right side of the road had right hand
drive there would be less incidents. Like-a-wise if left hand drive
cars drove on the left side of the street, drivers would always be
getting out on the curb side, which seems safer all around.

--
A website is a place, where, when you go there, it does everything
possible to distract you, from finding the information you came there
to see.- E.W.


Left hand drive on left driving roads? And right hand drive on right
driving roads? Likely more head on collisions due to drivers not
being able to judge where the oncoming vehicle is on the road. Or
judge where your own wheels are traveling relative to the yellow line.

N8N April 10th 09 08:15 PM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
On Apr 10, 3:02*pm, Erness Wild wrote:
DanKMTB wrote:
I had a near hit myself yesterday. *I'm generally really good about
staying out of the door zone, but this was a wierd situation. *A big
truck that's always parked at the local sub shop on RT-1 by the
rotary, over the curb on the grass, opened the door. *I was pretty
close to the curb, since I was coming out of a rotary into a 50MPH
zone. *No harm, no foul, but it was a reminder to stay away from ALL
the doors, not just the cars parked on the side of the street. *Never
gave this trucks location any thought in the past, something about it
being over a curb, elevated and what looked to be far enough from the
road had me flying past it for years now.


A u-turn miss and a door miss. Interesting on the door obstacle. Now
if cars that had to drive on the right side of the road had right hand
drive there would be less incidents. Like-a-wise if left hand drive
cars drove on the left side of the street, drivers would always be
getting out on the curb side, which seems safer all around.


Possibly true, but sitting on the curb side of the car also makes it
more difficult to see the road, especially around curves going in a
curbward direction.

My main objection to that plan is purely selfish; I'm right handed so
shifting with my left hand would take some getting used to.

nate

Tom Ace April 10th 09 09:04 PM

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On Apr 10, 12:12*pm, "
wrote:

Left hand drive on left driving roads? *And right hand drive on right
driving roads? *Likely more head on collisions due to drivers not
being able to judge where the oncoming vehicle is on the road.


Indeed--especially when passing big trucks on two-lane roads.

Tom Ace


[email protected] April 10th 09 09:13 PM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
On Apr 10, 1:12*pm, "
wrote:
On Apr 10, 2:02*pm, Erness Wild wrote:



DanKMTB wrote:
I had a near hit myself yesterday. *I'm generally really good about
staying out of the door zone, but this was a wierd situation. *A big
truck that's always parked at the local sub shop on RT-1 by the
rotary, over the curb on the grass, opened the door. *I was pretty
close to the curb, since I was coming out of a rotary into a 50MPH
zone. *No harm, no foul, but it was a reminder to stay away from ALL
the doors, not just the cars parked on the side of the street. *Never
gave this trucks location any thought in the past, something about it
being over a curb, elevated and what looked to be far enough from the
road had me flying past it for years now.


A u-turn miss and a door miss. Interesting on the door obstacle. Now
if cars that had to drive on the right side of the road had right hand
drive there would be less incidents. Like-a-wise if left hand drive
cars drove on the left side of the street, drivers would always be
getting out on the curb side, which seems safer all around.


--
A website is a place, where, when you go there, it does everything
possible to distract you, from finding the information you came there
to see.- E.W.


Left hand drive on left driving roads? *And right hand drive on right
driving roads? *Likely more head on collisions due to drivers not
being able to judge where the oncoming vehicle is on the road. *Or
judge where your own wheels are traveling relative to the yellow line.


Not that I agree with the left/left business (I don't) but any cyclist
who rides assuming drivers have any concept of where they are in the
lane, how big their vehicle is or where it stops and starts in the
physical world is headed for grief. My very unscientific findings: The
Worst: Males in big manly SUVs or trucks, and women in Subarus. Of
course, this paints unfairly, with a very broad brush, but I'm alive.
I have had my shoulder brushed by a side view mirror while coming down
Squaw Pass into Idaho Springs. Close enough, thank you.

tf

DanKMTB April 10th 09 09:41 PM

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On Apr 10, 4:25*pm, Phil W Lee phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk
wrote:
Erness Wild considered Fri, 10 Apr 2009
15:02:59 -0400 the perfect time to write:





DanKMTB wrote:
I had a near hit myself yesterday. *I'm generally really good about
staying out of the door zone, but this was a wierd situation. *A big
truck that's always parked at the local sub shop on RT-1 by the
rotary, over the curb on the grass, opened the door. *I was pretty
close to the curb, since I was coming out of a rotary into a 50MPH
zone. *No harm, no foul, but it was a reminder to stay away from ALL
the doors, not just the cars parked on the side of the street. *Never
gave this trucks location any thought in the past, something about it
being over a curb, elevated and what looked to be far enough from the
road had me flying past it for years now.


A u-turn miss and a door miss. Interesting on the door obstacle. Now
if cars that had to drive on the right side of the road had right hand
drive there would be less incidents. Like-a-wise if left hand drive
cars drove on the left side of the street, drivers would always be
getting out on the curb side, which seems safer all around.


So instead of the driver sitting on the traffic side, you're going to
have a passenger.

While it may be questionable as to how much care drivers take when
entering and exiting vehicles, it can at least be assumed that they
have the basic familiarity with traffic that would enable them to make
reasoned judgements of risk.
Is there anything to suggest that a passenger would be more capable?

And there would be considerably increased problems of visibility, for
almost all aspects of driving.

These problems are great enough that in some countries, certain
classes of "wrong hand drive" vehicles are actually banned.

If there's any change that might be worthwhile, it would be to ban
opening doors on the side of the vehicle furthest from the curb, and
require construction that enabled occupants from that side of the
vehicle to climb across.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm not at all for requiring the remanufacture of vehicles, and
additional laws, to bring things down to the lowest common
denominator. Vehicle operators should be, and are legally, required
to be sure the path is clear before opening a door. Cyclists should
be aware of the additional risk they run, and avoid the door zone.
Even from the perspective of someone that almost rode into a door @
~25MPH yesterday, more legislation isn't the solution to this problem,
IMO. Better enforcement to the legislation we have (such as requiring
no vehicle is oncoming before opening a door) is another story
altogether.

Tom Keats April 10th 09 10:30 PM

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In article ,
writes:

Left hand drive on left driving roads? And right hand drive on
right driving roads? Likely more head on collisions due to drivers
not being able to judge where the oncoming vehicle is on the road.
Or judge where your own wheels are traveling relative to the yellow
line.


Interestingly, all Italian commercial vehicles were right hand drive
until about 1980 after which all these trucks seem to have vanished,
being replaced by left hand drive vehicles as the rest of the right
hand traffic countries use. I would like to read about the origin of
this and the reason for the change. I have not seen a right hand
drive truck in Italy in recent years.


Maybe it has to do with the European Union and uniformity for
trade and import/export purposes as well as compatibility
among various European national law systems? That's just a
guess on my part, but the time frame seems to be at least
loosely contempory with the formative period of the EU.

Strange things happen in some countries such as the Swiss dumping the
William Tell crossbow as the "Swiss Made" symbol. Formerly it was
proudly displayed on all products while today it is gone even on
Victor Inox, an archetype Swiss company that formerly used the symbol.

http://www.tell.ch/schweiz/telldenkmal.htm
http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?page=3D0&lang=3DE
http://www.swisslabel.ch/d/


Maybe that's another EU casualty? Too bad, I like the idea of
a lethal weapon as a trade symbol. It portrays ... attitude.

I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.

Speaking of symbols & logos, the Circle K convenience store is
decidedly ~not~ kosher. Everything in there is overpriced, too.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

Nick L Plate April 10th 09 10:45 PM

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On 10 Apr, 20:15, N8N wrote:
On Apr 10, 3:02*pm, Erness Wild wrote:



DanKMTB wrote:
I had a near hit myself yesterday. *I'm generally really good about
staying out of the door zone, but this was a wierd situation. *A big
truck that's always parked at the local sub shop on RT-1 by the
rotary, over the curb on the grass, opened the door. *I was pretty
close to the curb, since I was coming out of a rotary into a 50MPH
zone. *No harm, no foul, but it was a reminder to stay away from ALL
the doors, not just the cars parked on the side of the street. *Never
gave this trucks location any thought in the past, something about it
being over a curb, elevated and what looked to be far enough from the
road had me flying past it for years now.


A u-turn miss and a door miss. Interesting on the door obstacle. Now
if cars that had to drive on the right side of the road had right hand
drive there would be less incidents. Like-a-wise if left hand drive
cars drove on the left side of the street, drivers would always be
getting out on the curb side, which seems safer all around.


Possibly true, but sitting on the curb side of the car also makes it
more difficult to see the road, especially around curves going in a
curbward direction.

My main objection to that plan is purely selfish; I'm right handed so
shifting with my left hand would take some getting used to.


Just make sure you have the drivers door deadlocked.

TJ

Erness Wild April 11th 09 02:06 AM

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N8N wrote:
Possibly true, but sitting on the curb side of the car also makes it
more difficult to see the road, especially around curves going in a
curbward direction.

My main objection to that plan is purely selfish; I'm right handed so
shifting with my left hand would take some getting used to.

nate


In our area everything is right hand side of the road way with left
hand vehicle controls, pretty normal. But there's an increase in right
hand drive Japanese cars coming into the country.
I had to laugh the other day when my buddy and I were at the local
donut shop for a coffee. We watched a guy in right hand drive car
backing down the drive through to place his order and pick up a
coffee. Never seen that one before.

--
A website is a place, where, when you go there, it does everything
possible to distract you, from finding the information you came there
to see.- E.W.

Erness Wild April 11th 09 02:49 AM

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Phil W Lee wrote:

Don't help.


well that's interesting, how about the water balloon defence?
http://i42.tinypic.com/90zqt1.jpg

--
A website is a place, where, when you go there, it does everything
possible to distract you, from finding the information you came there
to see.- E.W.

Michael Press April 12th 09 12:49 AM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:

In article ,
writes:

Left hand drive on left driving roads? And right hand drive on
right driving roads? Likely more head on collisions due to drivers
not being able to judge where the oncoming vehicle is on the road.
Or judge where your own wheels are traveling relative to the yellow
line.


Interestingly, all Italian commercial vehicles were right hand drive
until about 1980 after which all these trucks seem to have vanished,
being replaced by left hand drive vehicles as the rest of the right
hand traffic countries use. I would like to read about the origin of
this and the reason for the change. I have not seen a right hand
drive truck in Italy in recent years.


Maybe it has to do with the European Union and uniformity for
trade and import/export purposes as well as compatibility
among various European national law systems? That's just a
guess on my part, but the time frame seems to be at least
loosely contempory with the formative period of the EU.

Strange things happen in some countries such as the Swiss dumping the
William Tell crossbow as the "Swiss Made" symbol. Formerly it was
proudly displayed on all products while today it is gone even on
Victor Inox, an archetype Swiss company that formerly used the symbol.

http://www.tell.ch/schweiz/telldenkmal.htm
http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?page=3D0&lang=3DE
http://www.swisslabel.ch/d/


Maybe that's another EU casualty? Too bad, I like the idea of
a lethal weapon as a trade symbol. It portrays ... attitude.

I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.


I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?

--
Michael Press

John Thompson April 12th 09 01:34 AM

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On 2009-04-11, Erness Wild wrote:

Phil W Lee wrote:

Don't help.


well that's interesting, how about the water balloon defence?
http://i42.tinypic.com/90zqt1.jpg


Paint, not water.

--

John )

Tom Sherman[_3_] April 12th 09 01:34 AM

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Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:
[...]
I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.


I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?

Do you like beavers also?

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

Tom Keats April 12th 09 01:38 AM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
In article ,
Michael Press writes:

I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.


I like the maple leaf.


Back in the day it took a Maple Leaf (Dave Keon) to
bring Jean Belliveau down a peg. But I respect 'em
both as all-time Hockey greats.

I like maple trees.


"There unrest in the forest, there is
trouble with the trees ..."

I like maple wood.


The body of my custom-made solid-body guitar
is bird's-eye maple, and the 3-piece neck is
embroidered with tiger-stripe maple.

I like maple seeds in the spring.


It has been my experience that those helicopter things
drop at back-to-school time, in the late spring/early fall.
My route to school was lined on the boulevards with Eastern
maple trees planted by a Great War vet who planted them to
commemorate the fallen. Talk about nostalgia! I recall
that route to school, and regularly encountering this old coot
on the sidewalk with a barrowful of doughnuts for sale; a
paraffinized canvas tarp covered his wares from the weather.
I never had the nickel with which to buy a doughnut, just tokens
for weak-knee'd soup & cocoa in the school lunch room. I think
the old coot was also a Great War vet, 'cuz he never said anything,
nor spoke with anyone.

Maple trees are great.


Douglas firs are ~great~. Maple trees are nice.

Did I mention that I like maple syrup?


Didn't Gordon Lightbulb do a song about that stuff?

Anyways, Canadians "get" the import of maple trees,
but I doubt the rest of the world does.

I bet Australia doesn't use the eucalpytus leaf
as an international trade symbol.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

Tom Keats April 12th 09 01:47 AM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
In article ,
Tom Sherman writes:
Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:
[...]
I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.


I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?

Do you like beavers also?


A Swiss trade symbol could also consist of a skull
atop crossed fondue forks, within a heart -- love,
death and indulgence (life.)

cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

Ryan Cousineau April 12th 09 03:46 AM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
In article ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:
[...]
I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.


I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?

Do you like beavers also?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOI7KejIng

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Tom Sherman[_3_] April 12th 09 04:08 AM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:
[...]
I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.
I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?

Do you like beavers also?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOI7KejIng

That bites.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

Ryan Cousineau April 12th 09 11:09 PM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
In article ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:
[...]
I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.
I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?

Do you like beavers also?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOI7KejIng

That bites.


Lest there be any doubt, that's an actual TV ad for the most popular*
beer in Canada.

*not my favorite, but not bad. De gustibus et cetera.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Tom Keats April 13th 09 01:08 AM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
In article ],
Ryan Cousineau writes:
In article ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:
[...]
I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.
I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?

Do you like beavers also?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOI7KejIng

That bites.


Lest there be any doubt, that's an actual TV ad for the most popular*
beer in Canada.


What do beavers have to do with Stella Artois?


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

Tom Keats April 13th 09 04:05 AM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
In article ],
Ryan Cousineau writes:
In article ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:
[...]
I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.

I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?

Do you like beavers also?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOI7KejIng


While doing my laundry today at the laundromat
(using my bike + Leggero Max[tm] trailer of course)
I popped into the Garlane Pharmacy at the corner of
King Edward & Main.

There I obtained a nice hackeysack bead bag.
It's red & white, with the word: "Canada"
emblazoned across it, along with a stylized
red maple leaf. At least I think it's a maple
leaf, although it looks more like a distorted,
red bat or a pterosaur. I'm gonna take it to work,
to keep the temps limber during coffee and lunch
breaks. One can derive a lot of exercise just from
bending over to pick the damn'd thing up.

Nuthin' like a Canadian symbol to kick around.

I like chesting hackeysack bags. There's a certain
woman at work to whom I'd like to teach the technique.
She could achieve all kinds of vectors. She's perfectly
welcome to hackey in if she so desires. But if she'd
prefer to avoid a bunch of testosterone-soaked, labour-weary
male idiots kicking a bagful of beads around with heavy
steel-toed boots, that's understandable. I ~am~ Canadian,
after all.


cheers,
Tom

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I'm really at:
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Ryan Cousineau April 13th 09 07:09 AM

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In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:

In article ],
Ryan Cousineau writes:
In article ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,
Tom Sherman wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:
[...]
I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.
I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?

Do you like beavers also?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOI7KejIng

That bites.


Lest there be any doubt, that's an actual TV ad for the most popular*
beer in Canada.


What do beavers have to do with Stella Artois?


If Stella sells more beer in Canada than Canadian, I'll eat my bike
shorts.

Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Brian Huntley April 13th 09 04:57 PM

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On Apr 13, 2:09*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:



In article ],
* *Ryan Cousineau writes:
In article ,
*Tom Sherman wrote:


Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,
*Tom Sherman wrote:


Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:
[...]
I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. *On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.
I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?


Do you like beavers also?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOI7KejIng


That bites.


Lest there be any doubt, that's an actual TV ad for the most popular*
beer in Canada.


What do beavers have to do with Stella Artois?


If Stella sells more beer in Canada than Canadian, I'll eat my bike
shorts.

Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.


Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )


Andre Jute[_2_] April 13th 09 06:04 PM

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On Apr 13, 4:57*pm, Brian Huntley wrote:
On Apr 13, 2:09*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:


Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.


Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )


How can you even think that beers with French names are worth
considering?

Andre Jute
Wine-drinker

dgk April 13th 09 07:21 PM

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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:04:25 -0700 (PDT), Tom Ace
wrote:

On Apr 10, 12:12*pm, "
wrote:

Left hand drive on left driving roads? *And right hand drive on right
driving roads? *Likely more head on collisions due to drivers not
being able to judge where the oncoming vehicle is on the road.


Indeed--especially when passing big trucks on two-lane roads.

Tom Ace



Hello Tom.

The hell with standards. Free for all! So much more exciting.

But the beaver commercial mentioned earlier was pretty funny.



Chalo April 13th 09 11:41 PM

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Andre Jute wrote:

Brian Huntley wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:

Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.


Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )


How can you even think that beers with French names are worth
considering?

Andre Jute
Wine-drinker


Ryan (aka R-Cooz) has a Fwench name, and he's top quality. Besides,
it ain't Fwance, it's Canadia we're talking aboot. They are much
better at barley than they are at grapes.

Chalo

Andre Jute[_2_] April 13th 09 11:47 PM

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On Apr 13, 11:41*pm, Chalo wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

Brian Huntley wrote:


Ryan Cousineau wrote:


Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.


Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )


How can you even think that beers with French names are worth
considering?


Andre Jute
Wine-drinker


Ryan (aka R-Cooz) has a Fwench name, and he's top quality. *Besides,
it ain't Fwance, it's Canadia we're talking aboot. *They are much
better at barley than they are at grapes.


Wine from Canadian latitudes would have to be *very dry*.

Andre Jute
Sweet tooth, friend of the regionals


Ryan Cousineau April 14th 09 02:20 AM

Beware Passing the Parked Car, Bicycle Reminder.
 
In article
,
Brian Huntley wrote:

On Apr 13, 2:09*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:



In article ],
* *Ryan Cousineau writes:
In article ,
*Tom Sherman wrote:


Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,
*Tom Sherman wrote:


Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
(Tom Keats) wrote:
[...]
I suppose some sort of stylized bear could do for a Swiss
trade symbol. *On the other hand, with the world's economies
faring as they are, maybe that's not such a good idea.
I guess that just leaves skis, perforated cheese or The
Matterhorn -- all of which is preferable to Canada's lame
maple leaf and aquatic rodent.
I like the maple leaf.
I like maple trees.
I like maple wood.
I like maple seeds in the spring.
Maple trees are great.
Did I mention that I like maple syrup?


Do you like beavers also?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOI7KejIng


That bites.


Lest there be any doubt, that's an actual TV ad for the most popular*
beer in Canada.


What do beavers have to do with Stella Artois?


If Stella sells more beer in Canada than Canadian, I'll eat my bike
shorts.

Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.


Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )


It's a matter of taste. Fin du Monde is another fave, and I'll gladly
drink Maudite. I'm also keen on Trois Pistoles, which is a dark beer in
the Guinness mode, only at 10% alcohol.

I also have a bottle of Unibroue 17 in my back room, waiting for an
appropriate occasion to open it.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Ryan Cousineau April 14th 09 02:27 AM

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In article
,
Andre Jute wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:41*pm, Chalo wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

Brian Huntley wrote:


Ryan Cousineau wrote:


Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.


Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )


How can you even think that beers with French names are worth
considering?


Andre Jute
Wine-drinker


Ryan (aka R-Cooz) has a Fwench name, and he's top quality. *Besides,
it ain't Fwance, it's Canadia we're talking aboot. *They are much
better at barley than they are at grapes.


Certain local vintners might take offense at that. I will only say that
while I am happy to drink wine, I find that the beer that fits into my
drinking budget is tastier than the wine that fits into my drinking
budget. In short, you can pretty much drink the finest beer on the
planet for about $3/glass.

Wine from Canadian latitudes would have to be *very dry*.


The most famous Canadian product is icewine: it's an extremely sweet
dessert wine.

Also, the Okanagan wine region experiences near-desert summer conditions.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Ryan Cousineau April 14th 09 02:30 AM

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In article
,
Andre Jute wrote:

On Apr 13, 4:57*pm, Brian Huntley wrote:
On Apr 13, 2:09*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:


Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.


Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )


How can you even think that beers with French names are worth
considering?


My nose and tongue know better than your eyes.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Andre Jute[_2_] April 14th 09 02:37 AM

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On Apr 14, 2:27*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article
,
*Andre Jute wrote:



On Apr 13, 11:41*pm, Chalo wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:


Brian Huntley wrote:


Ryan Cousineau wrote:


Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.


Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )


How can you even think that beers with French names are worth
considering?


Andre Jute
Wine-drinker


Ryan (aka R-Cooz) has a Fwench name, and he's top quality. *Besides,
it ain't Fwance, it's Canadia we're talking aboot. *They are much
better at barley than they are at grapes.


Certain local vintners might take offense at that. I will only say that
while I am happy to drink wine, I find that the beer that fits into my
drinking budget is tastier than the wine that fits into my drinking
budget. In short, you can pretty much drink the finest beer on the
planet for about $3/glass.

Wine from Canadian latitudes would have to be *very dry*.


The most famous Canadian product is icewine: it's an extremely sweet
dessert wine.


Aha! I must see if I can find a bottle from a specialty bottle store.
I like drinking dessert wines, chilled, as an aperitif.

Also, the Okanagan wine region experiences near-desert summer conditions.


A desert isn't necessarily hot, or conducive to viniculture. I grew up
in one, the Little Karroo, that was hot in summer but too cold at
night for vines though other soft fruits were grown in abundance in
irrigated areas.

Andre Jute
A cycling world tour right here at my computer

Tom Keats April 14th 09 03:03 AM

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In article ],
Ryan Cousineau writes:
In article
,
Andre Jute wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:41*pm, Chalo wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

Brian Huntley wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:

Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.

Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )

How can you even think that beers with French names are worth
considering?

Andre Jute
Wine-drinker

Ryan (aka R-Cooz) has a Fwench name, and he's top quality. *Besides,
it ain't Fwance, it's Canadia we're talking aboot. *They are much
better at barley than they are at grapes.


Certain local vintners might take offense at that. I will only say that
while I am happy to drink wine, I find that the beer that fits into my
drinking budget is tastier than the wine that fits into my drinking
budget. In short, you can pretty much drink the finest beer on the
planet for about $3/glass.

Wine from Canadian latitudes would have to be *very dry*.


The most famous Canadian product is icewine: it's an extremely sweet
dessert wine.

Also, the Okanagan wine region experiences near-desert summer conditions.


I could never figure out an appropriate wine to go with
oysters on the half shell. But certain Mexican top-fermented
beers seem to work nicely. I'm partial to dark Dos Equis.

The de rigeur sangria in Portuguese tapas places is just
too sweet and runny (low specific gravity) to go with oysters,
which to my taste demand a slightly savoury/bitter
accompaniment which still retains a hint of sweetness.

Beer is also good with 5-alarm -- suicide hot wings.
In fact, as you've probably discovered yourself, it
can be necessary, along with naan or some other exotic
bland flat bread. And bleu cheese dip with orange zest.

Speaking of hot -- Blair's Death Sauce[tm] comes with a
keychain with a li'l plastic human skull dangling on it.
Great mojos to hang on yer bike, to go with yer skull
valve caps. I've got a few of 'em already. But all that
hot sauce has probably rendered my organs even more
non-donatable.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

Carl Sundquist April 14th 09 04:01 AM

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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article
,
Andre Jute wrote:

On Apr 13, 4:57 pm, Brian Huntley wrote:
On Apr 13, 2:09 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.
Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )

How can you even think that beers with French names are worth
considering?


My nose and tongue know better than your eyes.


Just stay away from Belzebuth.

Henry[_4_] April 14th 09 06:01 AM

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On Apr 11, 4:16 am, Erness Wild wrote:
I was "lucky?". Going for a ride on my old 10 speed had me more
interested in how it was working mechanically than remembering to
look for occupied parked cars. Sure enough as I came along side a
parked car the driver decided to begin a u-turn. We missed each other.
I last had that close call on a motorcyle over ten years ago. Each one
brings a sudden wake up call. Most of the street where I ride don't
have parked cars, which probably makes for being less prepared for it.


hopefully not teaching how to suck eggs, but from years ago when I
taught motorcycle safety -
cars without occupants (as you suggest) just about never move (though
I've had one do so)
you can also watch out for fumes from exhaust (not sure about these
fancy-schmancy hybrids)
peripheral vision is excellent for seeing movement of wheels
anyone wearing a hat in a car is dangerous :)

Ryan Cousineau April 14th 09 07:56 AM

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In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article
,
Andre Jute wrote:

On Apr 13, 4:57 pm, Brian Huntley wrote:
On Apr 13, 2:09 am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
Best beer in Canada: Unibroue Don de Dieu.
Better than la Fin du Monde? (We can only get FdM, Maudit, and Blance
du Chambly locally. :0( )
How can you even think that beers with French names are worth
considering?


My nose and tongue know better than your eyes.


Just stay away from Belzebuth.


Forewarned is forearmed.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."


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