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On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 3:58:34 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 10:11:28 AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:

I'm so glad old bigoted assholes like you are dying off. The world will be a much better place when you aren't in it anymore.

The funny thing is that you and your kind actually believe yourselves
to be common.

Yes, White middle-aged heterosexual married men are quite common.

You aren't and never were. What you managed to do was to make
others think that if they spoke up they would be shouted down.
With your scum-bag continuous shouting of "racist" and "bigot"
When you don't even know what those words mean

If there was any question, all anyone has to do is have a short chat with you.

killed your plausibility completely.

'plausibility'? Multi-syllabic words don't impress anywhen when yo use them incorrectly

The normal is returning.

Good to know what you're in favor of:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard:

"Matthew Wayne Shepard (December 1, 1976 – October 12, 1998) was an American student at the University of Wyoming who was beaten, tortured, and left to die near Laramie on the night of October 6, 1998"

MAGA, right tommy?

Your ignorance is showing. And everyone sees it.

The only ignorance you've demonstrated is your own.

Meanwhile in England
 

On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 10:41:40 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:

Jay, I am not denigrating your brother and sister at all.

Clearly you are -- along with all other homosexuals. This is typical pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep seated and irrational fear and loathing of homosexuals. You can sanitize your response to my post, but your responses to Zen, accusing him (or her) of being a "homo" pretty much says it all.

-- Jay Beattie.

I wanted to wait until you responded - I was actually outraged that tom had the arrogance to tell you that he somehow knew your siblings better than you, simply because of his bigotry against homosexuality. You're 100% right, "This is typical pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep seated and irrational fear and loathing of homosexuals."

Until my daughter came out, she was miserable - bouts of anorexia and depression. WE had always strongly suspected she was gay, and when she was growing up our family discussions often included gay rights and gay marriage issues - both of which my wife and I adamantly support (One of my roommates in college was gay, and he introduced us). Finally after my daughter graduated, she came out (about ten years ago). She's never been happier. She's in a long-term relationship, healthy both mentally and physically - she weaned off the anti-depression meds less than a year after she came out.

She claimed she suppressed it because she didn't want to embarrass her family. We still don't understand this - after all the times our opinions on the issue were discussed. The important part is the she is happy now, and understands she has our unconditional support and love.

This is what homophobe tom need to understand (though we know his kind never will): depression amoung homosexuals is largely due to lack of acceptance.. It's assholes like tom that are the problem, with ignorant opinions like "The funny thing is that you and your kind actually believe yourselves to be common. You aren't and never were. " Yeah, that's helpful.

Meanwhile in England
 

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-5, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 10:41:40 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:

Jay, I am not denigrating your brother and sister at all.

Clearly you are -- along with all other homosexuals. This is typical pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep seated and irrational fear and loathing of homosexuals. You can sanitize your response to my post, but your responses to Zen, accusing him (or her) of being a "homo" pretty much says it all.

-- Jay Beattie.

I wanted to wait until you responded - I was actually outraged that tom had the arrogance to tell you that he somehow knew your siblings better than you, simply because of his bigotry against homosexuality. You're 100% right, "This is typical pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep seated and irrational fear and loathing of homosexuals."

Until my daughter came out, she was miserable - bouts of anorexia and depression. WE had always strongly suspected she was gay, and when she was growing up our family discussions often included gay rights and gay marriage issues - both of which my wife and I adamantly support (One of my roommates in college was gay, and he introduced us). Finally after my daughter graduated, she came out (about ten years ago). She's never been happier. She's in a long-term relationship, healthy both mentally and physically - she weaned off the anti-depression meds less than a year after she came out.

She claimed she suppressed it because she didn't want to embarrass her family. We still don't understand this - after all the times our opinions on the issue were discussed. The important part is the she is happy now, and understands she has our unconditional support and love.

This is what homophobe tom need to understand (though we know his kind never will): depression amoung homosexuals is largely due to lack of acceptance. It's assholes like tom that are the problem, with ignorant opinions like "The funny thing is that you and your kind actually believe yourselves to be common. You aren't and never were. " Yeah, that's helpful.

I REALLY wish that you guys would realize when Tom is simply trolling and not bother to respond to him. When you respond to him and/or other trolls you allow them to bypass the Killfiles others have plonked them into.

Cheers

Meanwhile in England
 

Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-5, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 10:41:40 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:

Jay, I am not denigrating your brother and sister at all.

Clearly you are -- along with all other homosexuals. This is typical
pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep seated and irrational fear
and loathing of homosexuals. You can sanitize your response to my
post, but your responses to Zen, accusing him (or her) of being a
"homo" pretty much says it all.

-- Jay Beattie.

I wanted to wait until you responded - I was actually outraged that tom
had the arrogance to tell you that he somehow knew your siblings better
than you, simply because of his bigotry against homosexuality. You're
100% right, "This is typical pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep
seated and irrational fear and loathing of homosexuals."

Until my daughter came out, she was miserable - bouts of anorexia and
depression. WE had always strongly suspected she was gay, and when she
was growing up our family discussions often included gay rights and gay
marriage issues - both of which my wife and I adamantly support (One of
my roommates in college was gay, and he introduced us). Finally after my
daughter graduated, she came out (about ten years ago). She's never been
happier. She's in a long-term relationship, healthy both mentally and
physically - she weaned off the anti-depression meds less than a year after she came out.

She claimed she suppressed it because she didn't want to embarrass her
family. We still don't understand this - after all the times our
opinions on the issue were discussed. The important part is the she is
happy now, and understands she has our unconditional support and love.

This is what homophobe tom need to understand (though we know his kind
never will): depression amoung homosexuals is largely due to lack of
acceptance. It's assholes like tom that are the problem, with ignorant
opinions like "The funny thing is that you and your kind actually
believe yourselves to be common. You aren't and never were. " Yeah, that's helpful.

I REALLY wish that you guys would realize when Tom is simply trolling and
not bother to respond to him. When you respond to him and/or other trolls
you allow them to bypass the Killfiles others have plonked them into.

Cheers


I'm not sure if Tom is trolling, or whether his cumulative brain injuries
have resulted in an inability to properly process the world around him
(with associated anger issues), but I agree with Sir that engaging him
doesn't appear to be doing anybody any good.

Meanwhile in England
 

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:59:32 AM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-5, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 10:41:40 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:

Jay, I am not denigrating your brother and sister at all.

Clearly you are -- along with all other homosexuals. This is typical
pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep seated and irrational fear
and loathing of homosexuals. You can sanitize your response to my
post, but your responses to Zen, accusing him (or her) of being a
"homo" pretty much says it all.

-- Jay Beattie.

I wanted to wait until you responded - I was actually outraged that tom
had the arrogance to tell you that he somehow knew your siblings better
than you, simply because of his bigotry against homosexuality. You're
100% right, "This is typical pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep
seated and irrational fear and loathing of homosexuals."

Until my daughter came out, she was miserable - bouts of anorexia and
depression. WE had always strongly suspected she was gay, and when she
was growing up our family discussions often included gay rights and gay
marriage issues - both of which my wife and I adamantly support (One of
my roommates in college was gay, and he introduced us). Finally after my
daughter graduated, she came out (about ten years ago). She's never been
happier. She's in a long-term relationship, healthy both mentally and
physically - she weaned off the anti-depression meds less than a year after she came out.

She claimed she suppressed it because she didn't want to embarrass her
family. We still don't understand this - after all the times our
opinions on the issue were discussed. The important part is the she is
happy now, and understands she has our unconditional support and love.

This is what homophobe tom need to understand (though we know his kind
never will): depression amoung homosexuals is largely due to lack of
acceptance. It's assholes like tom that are the problem, with ignorant
opinions like "The funny thing is that you and your kind actually
believe yourselves to be common. You aren't and never were. " Yeah, that's helpful.

I REALLY wish that you guys would realize when Tom is simply trolling and
not bother to respond to him. When you respond to him and/or other trolls
you allow them to bypass the Killfiles others have plonked them into.

Cheers


I'm not sure if Tom is trolling, or whether his cumulative brain injuries
have resulted in an inability to properly process the world around him
(with associated anger issues), but I agree with Sir that engaging him
doesn't appear to be doing anybody any good.

Ralph, tell us your opinion of LGBTQ. Rather than ignoring the conversation and making dismissive comments as if you agree with the majority.

Meanwhile in England
 

wrote:
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:59:32 AM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-5, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 10:41:40 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:

Jay, I am not denigrating your brother and sister at all.

Clearly you are -- along with all other homosexuals. This is typical
pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep seated and irrational fear
and loathing of homosexuals. You can sanitize your response to my
post, but your responses to Zen, accusing him (or her) of being a
"homo" pretty much says it all.

-- Jay Beattie.

I wanted to wait until you responded - I was actually outraged that tom
had the arrogance to tell you that he somehow knew your siblings better
than you, simply because of his bigotry against homosexuality. You're
100% right, "This is typical pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep
seated and irrational fear and loathing of homosexuals."

Until my daughter came out, she was miserable - bouts of anorexia and
depression. WE had always strongly suspected she was gay, and when she
was growing up our family discussions often included gay rights and gay
marriage issues - both of which my wife and I adamantly support (One of
my roommates in college was gay, and he introduced us). Finally after my
daughter graduated, she came out (about ten years ago). She's never been
happier. She's in a long-term relationship, healthy both mentally and
physically - she weaned off the anti-depression meds less than a year
after she came out.

She claimed she suppressed it because she didn't want to embarrass her
family. We still don't understand this - after all the times our
opinions on the issue were discussed. The important part is the she is
happy now, and understands she has our unconditional support and love.

This is what homophobe tom need to understand (though we know his kind
never will): depression amoung homosexuals is largely due to lack of
acceptance. It's assholes like tom that are the problem, with ignorant
opinions like "The funny thing is that you and your kind actually
believe yourselves to be common. You aren't and never were. " Yeah, that's helpful.

I REALLY wish that you guys would realize when Tom is simply trolling and
not bother to respond to him. When you respond to him and/or other trolls
you allow them to bypass the Killfiles others have plonked them into.

Cheers


I'm not sure if Tom is trolling, or whether his cumulative brain injuries
have resulted in an inability to properly process the world around him
(with associated anger issues), but I agree with Sir that engaging him
doesn't appear to be doing anybody any good.

Ralph, tell us your opinion of LGBTQ. Rather than ignoring the
conversation and making dismissive comments as if you agree with the majority.


To quote Andy Partridge of XTC:
"This is your life and you do what you want to do,
This is your life and you spend it all.
This is your life and you do what you want to do,
Just don't hurt nobody,
'less of course they ask you,
In the garden of earthly delights."

Meanwhile in England
 

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 11:53:53 AM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
wrote:
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:59:32 AM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-5, Zen Cycle wrote:
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 10:41:40 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:

Jay, I am not denigrating your brother and sister at all.

Clearly you are -- along with all other homosexuals. This is typical
pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep seated and irrational fear
and loathing of homosexuals. You can sanitize your response to my
post, but your responses to Zen, accusing him (or her) of being a
"homo" pretty much says it all.

-- Jay Beattie.

I wanted to wait until you responded - I was actually outraged that tom
had the arrogance to tell you that he somehow knew your siblings better
than you, simply because of his bigotry against homosexuality. You're
100% right, "This is typical pin-head drivel by someone who has a deep
seated and irrational fear and loathing of homosexuals."

Until my daughter came out, she was miserable - bouts of anorexia and
depression. WE had always strongly suspected she was gay, and when she
was growing up our family discussions often included gay rights and gay
marriage issues - both of which my wife and I adamantly support (One of
my roommates in college was gay, and he introduced us). Finally after my
daughter graduated, she came out (about ten years ago). She's never been
happier. She's in a long-term relationship, healthy both mentally and
physically - she weaned off the anti-depression meds less than a year
after she came out.

She claimed she suppressed it because she didn't want to embarrass her
family. We still don't understand this - after all the times our
opinions on the issue were discussed. The important part is the she is
happy now, and understands she has our unconditional support and love.

This is what homophobe tom need to understand (though we know his kind
never will): depression amoung homosexuals is largely due to lack of
acceptance. It's assholes like tom that are the problem, with ignorant
opinions like "The funny thing is that you and your kind actually
believe yourselves to be common. You aren't and never were. " Yeah, that's helpful.

I REALLY wish that you guys would realize when Tom is simply trolling and
not bother to respond to him. When you respond to him and/or other trolls
you allow them to bypass the Killfiles others have plonked them into.

Cheers


I'm not sure if Tom is trolling, or whether his cumulative brain injuries
have resulted in an inability to properly process the world around him
(with associated anger issues), but I agree with Sir that engaging him
doesn't appear to be doing anybody any good.

Ralph, tell us your opinion of LGBTQ. Rather than ignoring the
conversation and making dismissive comments as if you agree with the majority.


To quote Andy Partridge of XTC:
"This is your life and you do what you want to do,
This is your life and you spend it all.
This is your life and you do what you want to do,
Just don't hurt nobody,
'less of course they ask you,
In the garden of earthly delights."

So you're saying that you think that abusing someone that likes it is OK?

Meanwhile in England
 

On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 10:37:24 AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:

Denial, denial, denial, denial.

Meanwhile in England
 

How do you explain gay animals? Over-bearing mothers? Watching gay animals on Animal Kingdom?

-- Jay Beattie.

Are there gay animals? I have avoided reading most of the responses in this particular thread. This is "rec.bicycles" so I somehow think the topics should be about bicycles in some context. But, are there gay animals? I have not given it too much thought. But it has crossed my mind once or twice. I think of animal sex, excluding human being animals, as being driven by hormones and or time of year. I don't think of animals as thinking about sex the way humans think. Animals, besides humans, do think, but I don't believe their thinking process goes too complex. So I just don't believe animals think about sex or think about being gay. Gay being having sex with the same gender of the species. With non human animals sex is entirely a biological action.