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MrCheerful May 21st 19 07:03 PM

Another racing cyclist that cannot handle a hill, dies.
 
another million quid of taxpayers money wasted.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...-2019-16308063

GB[_5_] May 22nd 19 03:02 PM

Another racing cyclist that cannot handle a hill, dies.
 
On 21/05/2019 19:03, MrCheerful wrote:
another million quid of taxpayers money wasted.


A million quid to take him to hospital, give him some resusc., and
pronounce him dead? Why?


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...-2019-16308063



jnugent May 22nd 19 03:56 PM

Another racing cyclist that cannot handle a hill, dies.
 
On 22/05/2019 15:02, GB wrote:
On 21/05/2019 19:03, MrCheerful wrote:
another million quid of taxpayers money wasted.


A million quid to take him to hospital, give him some resusc.,Â* and
pronounce him dead? Why?


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...-2019-16308063


Where oes the million pounds figure come from?

Mr Pounder Esquire May 22nd 19 05:07 PM

Another racing cyclist that cannot handle a hill, dies.
 
JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2019 15:02, GB wrote:
On 21/05/2019 19:03, MrCheerful wrote:
another million quid of taxpayers money wasted.


A million quid to take him to hospital, give him some resusc., and
pronounce him dead? Why?


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...-2019-16308063


Where oes the million pounds figure come from?


I think that GB has personal health problems from what I've read.
He was always okay on newsgroups, but has turned a bit nasty recently.
I don't know him, but I wish him all the best.




Kerr-Mudd,John[_2_] May 22nd 19 05:10 PM

Another racing cyclist that cannot handle a hill, dies.
 
On Wed, 22 May 2019 16:07:23 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2019 15:02, GB wrote:
On 21/05/2019 19:03, MrCheerful wrote:
another million quid of taxpayers money wasted.

A million quid to take him to hospital, give him some resusc., and
pronounce him dead? Why?


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...clist-killed-b
irmingham-velo-2019-16308063


Where oes the million pounds figure come from?


I think that GB has personal health problems from what I've read.
He was always okay on newsgroups, but has turned a bit nasty recently.
I don't know him, but I wish him all the best.


What's your excuse, Chiselman?



--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

MrCheerful May 22nd 19 05:12 PM

Another racing cyclist that cannot handle a hill, dies.
 
On 22/05/2019 15:56, JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2019 15:02, GB wrote:
On 21/05/2019 19:03, MrCheerful wrote:
another million quid of taxpayers money wasted.


A million quid to take him to hospital, give him some resusc.,Â* and
pronounce him dead? Why?


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...-2019-16308063



Where oes the million pounds figure come from?


according to this site:

http://www.makingthelink.net/tools/c...road-accidents

it is now 1.69 million

jnugent May 22nd 19 05:20 PM

Another racing cyclist that cannot handle a hill, dies.
 
On 22/05/2019 17:12, MrCheerful wrote:

On 22/05/2019 15:56, JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2019 15:02, GB wrote:
On 21/05/2019 19:03, MrCheerful wrote:


another million quid of taxpayers money wasted.

A million quid to take him to hospital, give him some resusc.,Â* and
pronounce him dead? Why?

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...-2019-16308063


Where oes the million pounds figure come from?


according to this site:
http://www.makingthelink.net/tools/c...road-accidents
it is now 1.69 million


QUOTE:
"Cost of a fatal casualty (all ages) - including lost output, medical
and ambulance costs and human costs"
ENDQUOTE

Yes but... that's the estimate (ie, made-up) average cost of a road
accident fatality. It includes - and this is important - an estimated
value of the deceased person's rest of life productivity, which must be
quite difficult to estimate accurately. So that bit of the figure has to
be taken with a few pinches of salt.

It also includes "human costs" which means that a value is put on the
distress and losses caused to bereaved relatives, friends, etc. I can
see that in these touch-feely days, one would want to value such losses,
but whether it ought to be done in money - and how that should be done
anyway - is far from clear.

Overall, it does not mean that £1,690,000 is the value of emergency
services expended on dealing with the incident. The figure for "lost
output" will be the biggest part of it. Most of it will be expended or
incurred even if no emergency services are involved.


Simon Jester May 22nd 19 05:54 PM

Another racing cyclist that cannot handle a hill, dies.
 
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019 at 5:20:50 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2019 17:12, MrCheerful wrote:

On 22/05/2019 15:56, JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2019 15:02, GB wrote:
On 21/05/2019 19:03, MrCheerful wrote:


another million quid of taxpayers money wasted.

A million quid to take him to hospital, give him some resusc.,Â* and
pronounce him dead? Why?

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...-2019-16308063

Where oes the million pounds figure come from?


according to this site:
http://www.makingthelink.net/tools/c...road-accidents
it is now 1.69 million


QUOTE:
"Cost of a fatal casualty (all ages) - including lost output, medical
and ambulance costs and human costs"
ENDQUOTE

Yes but... that's the estimate (ie, made-up) average cost of a road
accident fatality. It includes - and this is important - an estimated
value of the deceased person's rest of life productivity, which must be
quite difficult to estimate accurately. So that bit of the figure has to
be taken with a few pinches of salt.

It also includes "human costs" which means that a value is put on the
distress and losses caused to bereaved relatives, friends, etc. I can
see that in these touch-feely days, one would want to value such losses,
but whether it ought to be done in money - and how that should be done
anyway - is far from clear.

Overall, it does not mean that £1,690,000 is the value of emergency
services expended on dealing with the incident. The figure for "lost
output" will be the biggest part of it. Most of it will be expended or
incurred even if no emergency services are involved.


Wow! I actually agree with you for once, I think.

The Hospital and staff will be there. The Paramedics will be on duty. The only costs are consumables.

If I chose to drive to work tomorrow the costs are fuel and parking.
I own a car so the fixed costs have to be paid whether I use it or not.


Car tax, insurance, MOT and annual service are spent anyway.

GB[_5_] May 22nd 19 05:55 PM

Another racing cyclist that cannot handle a hill, dies.
 
On 22/05/2019 17:07, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

I think that GB has personal health problems from what I've read.
He was always okay on newsgroups, but has turned a bit nasty recently.


Good point. There's no reason to be ghastly to others just because my
life has taken a turn for the worse.

I'm hoping I'll go through a couple of major operations and emerge more
or less okay. Or I'll die, which is second best but okay. It's the third
possibility of surviving but broken that is so upsetting. I know that
people do soldier on with terrible problems, and I admire them for
having the courage, but I'm dreading that outcome. Definitely DNR.


I don't know him, but I wish him all the best.


Thanks. Appreciated. :)








Mr Pounder Esquire May 22nd 19 05:58 PM

Another racing cyclist that cannot handle a hill, dies.
 
Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2019 16:07:23 GMT, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

JNugent wrote:
On 22/05/2019 15:02, GB wrote:
On 21/05/2019 19:03, MrCheerful wrote:
another million quid of taxpayers money wasted.

A million quid to take him to hospital, give him some resusc., and
pronounce him dead? Why?


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...clist-killed-b
irmingham-velo-2019-16308063

Where oes the million pounds figure come from?


I think that GB has personal health problems from what I've read.
He was always okay on newsgroups, but has turned a bit nasty
recently. I don't know him, but I wish him all the best.


What's your excuse, Chiselman?


I was being serious regarding a respected poster who I have read for many
years. You are obviously too stupid to understand this.
Now, just go **** off, you stupid lump of **** and don't come back.






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