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From yesterday's Chicago Tribune:

Chicago bicyclists, Mayor Daley knows your pain.

The mayor introduced an ordinance Wednesday that would slap fines
ranging from $150 to $500 on motorists who turn left or right in front
of someone on a bicycle; pass with less than three feet of space
between car and bike; and open a vehicle door into the path of a
cyclist.

Daley, an avid rider, said he personally has been involved in unhappy
encounters with motorists, providing them with "a few choice words"
and "salutes" that he said were delivered "in the Chicago way."

couldn't, wouldn't happen in Australia


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barry taylor wrote:

From yesterday's Chicago Tribune:

Chicago bicyclists, Mayor Daley knows your pain.

The mayor introduced an ordinance Wednesday that would slap fines
ranging from $150 to $500 on motorists who turn left or right in front
of someone on a bicycle; pass with less than three feet of space
between car and bike; and open a vehicle door into the path of a
cyclist.

Daley, an avid rider, said he personally has been involved in unhappy
encounters with motorists, providing them with "a few choice words"
and "salutes" that he said were delivered "in the Chicago way."


couldn't, wouldn't happen in Australia


Its in place here.

You can't open a door into the path of another vehicle in australia
anyway, besides other bits are road rules.

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"barry taylor" writes:

From yesterday's Chicago Tribune:

Chicago bicyclists, Mayor Daley knows your pain.

The mayor introduced an ordinance Wednesday that would slap fines
ranging from $150 to $500 on motorists who turn left or right in front
of someone on a bicycle; pass with less than three feet of space
between car and bike; and open a vehicle door into the path of a
cyclist.

Daley, an avid rider, said he personally has been involved in unhappy
encounters with motorists, providing them with "a few choice words"
and "salutes" that he said were delivered "in the Chicago way."

couldn't, wouldn't happen in Australia

We don't need to pass laws for the three things mentioned above, all
three are *already* against the law in Australia.

However, as for *observing* the law and *enforcing* the law, well that's
two different things...

Adrain

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barry taylor Wrote:
From yesterday's Chicago Tribune:

Chicago bicyclists, Mayor Daley knows your pain.
Linkie to article: Bike-riding Daley provides 'Chicago way salutes' to
offending drivers
http://tinyurl.com/2kft9w

And a comparison piece on Streetsblog about Chicago & LA,

Tale of Two Cities: Bicycling in Chicago and Los Angeles
http://tinyurl.com/yqy7fp


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cfsmtb

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We don't need to pass laws for the three things mentioned above, all
three are *already* against the law in Australia.

However, as for *observing* the law and *enforcing* the law, well that's
two different things...

Adrain

Good Point!
Eveyone knows of someone or possibly themselves has been fined for an
offence in a car, but has anyone ever heard of a motorist actually being
pulled over and fined for passing a cyclist too close?
I'm not talking about motorist fined after hitting a cyclists but just for
passing too close.
After all it is the law. Apparently.

JoeDe

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"JoeDe" wrote:

Good Point!
Eveyone knows of someone or possibly themselves has been fined for an
offence in a car, but has anyone ever heard of a motorist actually being
pulled over and fined for passing a cyclist too close?
I'm not talking about motorist fined after hitting a cyclists but just for
passing too close.
After all it is the law. Apparently.

Actually, no. At least not in the Victorian Road Rules
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd.../0/part_11.pdf

"Rule 144 A driver overtaking a vehicle-
a) must pass the vehicle at a sufficient distance to avoid a collision with
the vehicle or obstructing the path of the vehicle; and
b) must not return to the marked lane or line of traffic where the vehicle
is travelling until the driver is a sufficient distance past the vehicle to
avoid a collision with the vehicle or obstructing the path of the vehicle"

No mention of a 1 metre space in the road rules that I could find. This is a
recommendation I believe, and would be impossible to enforce, without a
camera on every car!


However the rules on double lines in the country - now there's a law that
95% of drivers break when overtaking cyclists. Very easy to enforce with
police presence! Interesting too that drivers changing lanes (ie. overtaking
a cyclist on a multilane road) are required to change lanes fully - none of
this moving out half a lane to cut by a cyclist.


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