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remove the polite word to reply July 7th 04 07:55 AM

Go Mayo Go! Iban the Man , Can!!
 
Now we have a genuine exotic underdog to root for.

I hope Mayo tears up a mtn stage and drops Lance
by about two minutes
like Pantani did to hundreds of thousands of
absolutely screaming tifosi.

I think Lance has done great things for the
cancer sufferer communi5ty, but he shamed himself after that stage by
calling Pantani " a little
**** starter". I'm sure he cringes when he thinks of that now.

Mayo prob can't win but it will be great if he
can set a stage on fire to break the boredom
of another perfectly planned, incredibly funded Postal

How does that money work anyway? Does postal have like twice
the budget for rider salaries?

Maybe they should limit budgets like the limit bike weights.
Have more teams instead.

Lance, please stop winning this race and do the Giro so
cycling can do something new!

psycholist July 7th 04 01:04 PM

Go Mayo Go! Iban the Man , Can!!
 

"remove the polite word to reply" wrote in
message om...
Now we have a genuine exotic underdog to root for.

I hope Mayo tears up a mtn stage and drops Lance
by about two minutes
like Pantani did to hundreds of thousands of
absolutely screaming tifosi.


Then Mayo will be 2 minutes behind instead of four.

I think Lance has done great things for the
cancer sufferer communi5ty, but he shamed himself after that stage by
calling Pantani " a little
**** starter". I'm sure he cringes when he thinks of that now.


I doubt if he gives it another thought.

Mayo prob can't win but it will be great if he
can set a stage on fire to break the boredom
of another perfectly planned, incredibly funded Postal


The mediocre are always uncomfortable in the presence of those who excel.

How does that money work anyway? Does postal have like twice
the budget for rider salaries?
Maybe they should limit budgets like the limit bike weights.
Have more teams instead.


Maybe we should just skip the TdF and make the Little 500 a pro event so
everyone can ride their AMF Roadmaster bicycles.

Lance, please stop winning this race and do the Giro so
cycling can do something new!


I've never noticed your name in this newsgroup before, so I guess you're new
to the sport and don't realize that A SIXTH WIN IN THE TOUR DE FRANCE WOULD
BE HISTORIC! Historic means new ... never been done before.

Bob C.



K. J. Papai July 7th 04 05:08 PM

Go Mayo Go! Iban the Man , Can!!
 
(remove the polite word to reply) wrote in message . com...
Now we have a genuine exotic underdog to root for.

I hope Mayo tears up a mtn stage and drops Lance


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by about two minutes
like Pantani


remove the polite word to reply July 8th 04 08:43 AM

Go Mayo Go! Iban the Man , Can!!
 

I've never noticed your name in this newsgroup before, so I guess you're new
to the sport and don't realize that A SIXTH WIN IN THE TOUR DE FRANCE WOULD
BE HISTORIC! Historic means new ... never been done before.

i agree, but i see the situation as sixth is already won.
It's a little embarrassing with postal just destroying everyone in
every disdcipline.

I'm curious about budgets.

Is postal's budget like way bigger than everyone else's, meaning the
supporting riders are way better; meaning eki and
GH destroy all monsters who might oppose LA while everyone
else just can't compete on salary?

remove the polite word to reply July 8th 04 08:44 AM

Go Mayo Go! Iban the Man , Can!!
 
(K. J. Papai) wrote in message . com...
(remove the polite word to reply) wrote in message . com...
Now we have a genuine exotic underdog to root for.

I hope Mayo tears up a mtn stage and drops Lance


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Do you have a stuttering problem, or some kind of typing tic?
Or is this just sort of a dimwit's attempt at shouting me down?

Benjamin Weiner July 9th 04 09:53 AM

Go Mayo Go! Iban the Man , Can!!
 
remove the polite word to reply wrote:

i agree, but i see the situation as sixth is already won.
It's a little embarrassing with postal just destroying everyone in
every disdcipline.


That's absurd.
The situation was about the same last year after the TTT, BTW.

One of Lance's strengths has always been recovery - remarkable
consistency from stage to stage, and even his bad days weren't
that bad. Not so true in 2003. As riders age, recovery is one
of the first things to go (at least, so Museeuw said). He
might win, but it's also likely that when the end comes, it will
come without much warning.

I'm curious about budgets.


Is postal's budget like way bigger than everyone else's, meaning the
supporting riders are way better; meaning eki and
GH destroy all monsters who might oppose LA while everyone
else just can't compete on salary?


No, it isn't. It's one of the higher budgets, but there is
only about a factor of 2 between the smallest div 1 teams
and the biggest. Many of the others pay more than one star -
like Ullrich and Zabel. USPS concentrates on one race,
presumably in budget as in training.

An analysis of 2002 budgets:
http://www.cycling4all.com/a_efft02.php

Some 2004 budgets from http://www.velonews.com/tour2004/team/

BLB: 7.2M US$
CSC: 5.4 (really?? Barney Riis ought to write a Frugal Shopper column)
EE: 7.2
FDJ: 6.6
IBB: 6.6
LS: 7.2
PHO: 9.6
QSD: 9.6
RAB: 10.8
TMO: 14.4
USP: 9.0

Robert Chung gets a prize if he can deduce the Euro/USD ratio
that Velonews used, from these data alone.


Stewart Fleming July 9th 04 11:08 AM

Go Mayo Go! Iban the Man , Can!!
 


Benjamin Weiner wrote:
remove the polite word to reply wrote:


i agree, but i see the situation as sixth is already won.
It's a little embarrassing with postal just destroying everyone in
every disdcipline.



That's absurd.
The situation was about the same last year after the TTT, BTW.


Regarding the TTT, if you disregard the Gewiss effort in 1995 (for
obvious reasons), the USPS in 2004 was the 2nd fastest, and the fastest
TTT over 50km in Tour history.

In fact, the T-Mobile effort this year was on the same par as the USPS
effort LAST year (52.77kph)


Ewoud Dronkert July 9th 04 02:54 PM

Go Mayo Go! Iban the Man , Can!!
 
On 9 Jul 2004 01:53:04 -0700, Benjamin Weiner wrote:
BLB: 7.2M US$
CSC: 5.4 (really?? Barney Riis ought to write a Frugal Shopper column)
EE: 7.2
FDJ: 6.6
IBB: 6.6
LS: 7.2
PHO: 9.6
QSD: 9.6
RAB: 10.8
TMO: 14.4
USP: 9.0

Robert Chung gets a prize if he can deduce the Euro/USD ratio
that Velonews used, from these data alone.


0.9 EUR/USD. Of course, this ratio should realy be expressed as
10/9 (or 1.11) USD/EUR.

scott July 9th 04 05:17 PM

Go Mayo Go! Iban the Man , Can!!
 
(remove the polite word to reply) wrote in message . com...
Mayo prob can't win but it will be great if he
can set a stage on fire to break the boredom
of another perfectly planned, incredibly funded Postal

How does that money work anyway? Does postal have like twice
the budget for rider salaries?


FYI, Mayo will love that budget when he rides for Discovery next year.

Appkiller July 9th 04 05:19 PM

Go Mayo Go! Iban the Man , Can!!
 
Do you have a stuttering problem, or some kind of typing tic?
Or is this just sort of a dimwit's attempt at shouting me down?



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What do you think?

Best Regards,

App


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