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jbeattie wrote:
:On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote:
: Joy Beeson wrote:
: :On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
: wrote:
:
: : Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles.
:
: :When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles.
:
: Jay's a camel.

:Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more than
:two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I don't go into
:the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with a rack so I can haul
:gallons of water on a day ride.

I've run out of water on what should have been a 20 mile ride near my
parents. I had two big bottles. I got lost (went west instead of
east, corrected by going north) and ran out of water in the middle of
nowhere. It was about 90 and 100% humidity. I ended up having to
ride 10 miles before I found a house. When I got back on track, I
stopped at a gas station to get an ice cream, and discovered there was
a big power outage, and had to steal one.



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On 2017-07-28 15:57, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote:
Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27 Jul
2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote:

: Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles.

:When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles.

Jay's a camel.

Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more than
two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I don't go
into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with a rack so I
can haul gallons of water on a day ride.

Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle bosses
and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding trails in
the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or some other
option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on a day ride.



http://www.performancebike.com/webap...HydrationGuide

Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one
extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the bike".

Most of my rides are 4-5h and I am a tall guy who is more at the upper
end of the water requirement scale. So there.

Yes, this also applies to Oregonians since they have a store in Portland :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 6:14:54 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/28/2017 8:00 PM, Joerg wrote:


The was no drinking water source the whole 20mi and it was up and down
all the time.

Gosh!

Last Thursday I rode 25 miles in very high humidity and the sweat was pouring off of me. I was wearing a cycling cap under the helmet and the water came off it in a steady stream. I didn't take a sip of water for the whole time (1 hour 20 minutes) and had a small cup of coffee before starting back. By that time the humidity had gone down and the wind had picked up so I did another 40 miles without a drink. I did have three beers at the end of the ride. For all of the talk about alcohol dehydrating you I don't find that to be true.

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On 2017-07-29 12:11, wrote:
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 6:14:54 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/28/2017 8:00 PM, Joerg wrote:


The was no drinking water source the whole 20mi and it was up and
down all the time.

Gosh!

Last Thursday I rode 25 miles in very high humidity and the sweat was
pouring off of me. I was wearing a cycling cap under the helmet and
the water came off it in a steady stream. I didn't take a sip of
water for the whole time (1 hour 20 minutes) and had a small cup of
coffee before starting back. By that time the humidity had gone down
and the wind had picked up so I did another 40 miles without a drink.
I did have three beers at the end of the ride. For all of the talk
about alcohol dehydrating you I don't find that to be true.


I'll second that on the beers. As long as it's the good stuff from small
breweries. What it does to some riders though is making them tired. That
is why I can hardly convince anyone to stop at a pub, mainly because out
here it's all uphill from those places. In Belgium that was very
different. The whole riding group would loudly cheer at the first
suggestion and then immediately find a pub.

Some riders had a demi-bouteille (smaller bottle than the usual 0.7
liter) of red wine in one of their bottle holders and then let that
circle. Yep, drinking it from the bottle. In France they'd probably have
a hissy fit about that and I guess in America a cop who'd see that would
arrest the whole peloton.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

New bike for Jay
 

On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 7:34:00 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-28 15:57, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote:
Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27 Jul
2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote:

: Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles.

:When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles.

Jay's a camel.

Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more than
two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I don't go
into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with a rack so I
can haul gallons of water on a day ride.

Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle bosses
and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding trails in
the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or some other
option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on a day ride.



http://www.performancebike.com/webap...HydrationGuide

Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one
extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the bike".

Most of my rides are 4-5h and I am a tall guy who is more at the upper
end of the water requirement scale. So there.

Yes, this also applies to Oregonians since they have a store in Portland :-)

There used to be three Performance stores in Portand, but they closed the one downtown -- the only one close to my work or home.

So, reading that prescription, do I have to carry eight bottles for a four hour ride? Wow, I better start buying cages and hose clamps. Or I could just stop every hour and fill up my bottles -- assuming I needed all that fluid. Hmmmmmm.

I did a 30 mile loop this afternoon -- nothing terrible because I'm expecting to get throttled by some friends tomorrow. Temperature was low-mid 80s -- blue skies, low wind. A gorgeous day. I went through one 21oz bottle, and there is still some water sloshing around in the bottle. A lot of the riding was under trees, so I wasn't taking a lot of direct sun. If I were in the bright sun, I'd drink more. And I'd have a better tan.

-- Jay Beattie.

New bike for Jay
 

On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 07:34:09 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-07-28 15:57, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote:
Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27 Jul
2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote:

: Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles.

:When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles.

Jay's a camel.

Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more than
two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I don't go
into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with a rack so I
can haul gallons of water on a day ride.

Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle bosses
and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding trails in
the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or some other
option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on a day ride.



http://www.performancebike.com/webap...HydrationGuide

Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one
extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the bike".

Most of my rides are 4-5h and I am a tall guy who is more at the upper
end of the water requirement scale. So there.

Yes, this also applies to Oregonians since they have a store in Portland :-)

Your equation doesn't mention OAT which is critical to the body's
water usage. If one were riding in the Mojave desert on the 4th of
July your liquid requirement wouldn't be sufficient and if in Nome on
Christmas day it would be overkill.
--
Cheers,

John B.

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MIAMI BEACH !

good days for a midweek coast ride

..........

Thru a blue sky

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...8#.WX2-VsspDqA

Norco us then an outstanding niche bike or are there a 1000 Norco types ...that is is the Norco a typical 'gravel' bike ?

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On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:13:28 AM UTC-4, wrote:
MIAMI BEACH !

good days for a midweek coast ride

.........

Thru a blue sky

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...8#.WX2-VsspDqA

Norco us then an outstanding niche bike or are there a 1000 Norco types ...that is is the Norco a typical 'gravel' bike ?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mmer-heat.html

New bike for Jay
 

On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 9:00:40 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:13:28 AM UTC-4, wrote:
MIAMI BEACH !

good days for a midweek coast ride

.........

Thru a blue sky

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...8#.WX2-VsspDqA

Norco us then an outstanding niche bike or are there a 1000 Norco types ...that is is the Norco a typical 'gravel' bike ?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mmer-heat.html

try cold Perrier with fresh cut lemon n a wee pinch a salt


https://weather.com/forecast/nationa...ly-august-2017