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New bike for Jay
Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge?
I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html |
New bike for Jay
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote:
Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...30636448..html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. My uber-bike to replace the smashed SuperSix is going to be an Emonda because my son loves his, and I do work for Trek, so they'll give me a deal on a great bike. I like dealing with the fine folks in Wisconsin. I have always gone with the US companies because I'm a krypto-nationalist, even if the production is done elsewhere (or a lot of it). I like long warranties. If someone gave me a Pinarello, however, I would not throw it out -- although I'm not hot on Italiano BBs. -- Jay Beattie. |
New bike for Jay
On 2017-07-26 09:31, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote: Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/ Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. What always peeves me and is one reason why I am sticking with my 35 year old steel frame road bike is that manufacturers of "modern" bikes seem to assume nobody has to carry anything. No rack attachment points. Schlepping a laptop, water, food and other stuff in a backpack is a real pain especially when it's over 100F out there and the ride is mostly in the sun. When I took delivery of this full-custom road bike in the early 80's the very first thing I did was to add lights and a nice big rack. I made sure the frame I selected had provisions for that. I even have a full rack (almost all home-made) on my FS-MTB. Stiffened so the panniers won't sway into the spoked even during very rough rides. Plus now a top trunk. Detachable in case a package has to be brought to Fedex along the way. The available trunks can hold 1-1/2 gallons of water, food, prototype parts for clients, a tool set and whatever else is needed. [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 09:31, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote: Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/ Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. What always peeves me snip I was just gonna say you are a lot easier to please than Jorge. |
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 09:31, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote: Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/ Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. What always peeves me and is one reason why I am sticking with my 35 year old steel frame road bike is that manufacturers of "modern" bikes seem to assume nobody has to carry anything. No rack attachment points. Schlepping a laptop, water, food and other stuff in a backpack is a real pain especially when it's over 100F out there and the ride is mostly in the sun. When I took delivery of this full-custom road bike in the early 80's the very first thing I did was to add lights and a nice big rack. I made sure the frame I selected had provisions for that. I even have a full rack (almost all home-made) on my FS-MTB. Stiffened so the panniers won't sway into the spoked even during very rough rides. Plus now a top trunk. Detachable in case a package has to be brought to Fedex along the way. The available trunks can hold 1-1/2 gallons of water, food, prototype parts for clients, a tool set and whatever else is needed. They make bikes for that. You just don't own one. I can go down the street an buy one. http://www.splendidcycles.com/ https://bikeportland.org/tag/cargo-bikes By the way, I bought the CF (not allow) Norco Search: http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve.../search-c-105/ The Search alloy has rack mounts -- not the CF bike. The rotors are plenty big enough for a gravel bike. The 140mm rotors on my Cannondale CX bike were more than adequate. I don't need a cargo bike. I want something fun to ride on gravel and through the hills on the way home. If I found myself in need of a rack, I'd buy a beater frane with rack mounts -- which I might do. -- Jay Beattie. |
New bike for Jay
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 1:23:58 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
Snipped Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. Snipped EVERYTHING on ANY bicycle is too wimpy for you! Cheers |
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 12:38:46 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 1:23:58 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: Snipped Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. Snipped EVERYTHING on ANY bicycle is too wimpy for you! Cheers Yea, well, Jay might have been able to fix his c'dale with a hose clamp |
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 6:43:00 PM UTC-4, wrote:
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 3:44:45 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 6:43:00 PM UTC-4, wrote: https://portland.craigslist.org/search/bik https://www.google.com/search?q=alum...UQuw0IvQ MoAw Is this some sort of joke? |
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On 7/26/2017 5:47 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 3:44:45 PM UTC-7, wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 6:43:00 PM UTC-4, wrote: https://portland.craigslist.org/search/bik https://www.google.com/search?q=alum...UQuw0IvQ MoAw Is this some sort of joke? Probably. Gene has an offbeat sense of humor. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
New bike for Jay
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On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 09:31, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote: Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/ Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. What always peeves me and is one reason why I am sticking with my 35 year old steel frame road bike is that manufacturers of "modern" bikes seem to assume nobody has to carry anything. No rack attachment points. Schlepping a laptop, water, food and other stuff in a backpack is a real pain especially when it's over 100F out there and the ride is mostly in the sun. When I took delivery of this full-custom road bike in the early 80's the very first thing I did was to add lights and a nice big rack. I made sure the frame I selected had provisions for that. I even have a full rack (almost all home-made) on my FS-MTB. Stiffened so the panniers won't sway into the spoked even during very rough rides. Plus now a top trunk. Detachable in case a package has to be brought to Fedex along the way. The available trunks can hold 1-1/2 gallons of water, food, prototype parts for clients, a tool set and whatever else is needed. They make bikes for that. You just don't own one. I can go down the street an buy one. http://www.splendidcycles.com/ https://bikeportland.org/tag/cargo-bikes Sure, but I meant a fast commuter, not a behemoth. By the way, I bought the CF (not allow) Norco Search: http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve.../search-c-105/ Interesting, Why did they drop the price so much versus list? The Search alloy has rack mounts -- not the CF bike. The rotors are plenty big enough for a gravel bike. The 140mm rotors on my Cannondale CX bike were more than adequate. I saw something in the back. Didn't look like a rack mount but if they are that would be very commendable. You probably aren't a clyde if 140mm rotors work. I don't need a cargo bike. I want something fun to ride on gravel and through the hills on the way home. If I found myself in need of a rack, I'd buy a beater frane with rack mounts -- which I might do. So you don't carry much back and forth? I did a valley trip yesterday. Hot day and the extra water alone filled more than one pannier. On the way back there are no fountains until 3mi before I am home. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
New bike for Jay
On 7/26/2017 9:31 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote: Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. My uber-bike to replace the smashed SuperSix is going to be an Emonda because my son loves his, and I do work for Trek, so they'll give me a deal on a great bike. I like dealing with the fine folks in Wisconsin. I have always gone with the US companies because I'm a krypto-nationalist, even if the production is done elsewhere (or a lot of it). I like long warranties. If someone gave me a Pinarello, however, I would not throw it out -- although I'm not hot on Italiano BBs. -- Jay Beattie. I saw someone with a great commuter bicycle a few weeks ago on Caltrain. A Ritchey Breakaway frame, I think it was all 105, Brooks saddle, and a Carradice bag. You need steel or titanium for a commute bicycle, with hydraulic disc brakes. A lot of people have been buying the titanium frames from 鈦郁工*股份有限公司| in Taiwan and building up bikes from them, and they are the same titanium frames that Bikesdirect has been using in their "Motobecane" models. 63cm is hard though. The largest they have is 61cm. http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/disc-brake-roadbikes/centuryelt-ti-discbrake-road.htm. But they cheaped out, the crankset is not Ultegra. And of course you'd want a steel fork on that. Everyone around here is buying custom titanium bikes with Dura Ace triples from Dean http://www.deanbikes.com/. No one is buying carbon fiber or aluminum anymore. |
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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 09:31, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote: Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/ Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. What always peeves me and is one reason why I am sticking with my 35 year old steel frame road bike is that manufacturers of "modern" bikes seem to assume nobody has to carry anything. No rack attachment points. Schlepping a laptop, water, food and other stuff in a backpack is a real pain especially when it's over 100F out there and the ride is mostly in the sun. When I took delivery of this full-custom road bike in the early 80's the very first thing I did was to add lights and a nice big rack. I made sure the frame I selected had provisions for that. I even have a full rack (almost all home-made) on my FS-MTB. Stiffened so the panniers won't sway into the spoked even during very rough rides. Plus now a top trunk. Detachable in case a package has to be brought to Fedex along the way. The available trunks can hold 1-1/2 gallons of water, food, prototype parts for clients, a tool set and whatever else is needed. They make bikes for that. You just don't own one. I can go down the street an buy one. http://www.splendidcycles.com/ https://bikeportland.org/tag/cargo-bikes Sure, but I meant a fast commuter, not a behemoth. By the way, I bought the CF (not allow) Norco Search: http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve.../search-c-105/ Interesting, Why did they drop the price so much versus list? Western Bikeworks has great deals. I got a Garmin 520 bundle for my son at the Christmas in-store super-sale for about $275 USD. I like the people there, too. It's internet and bricks-and-mortar. The Search alloy has rack mounts -- not the CF bike. The rotors are plenty big enough for a gravel bike. The 140mm rotors on my Cannondale CX bike were more than adequate. I saw something in the back. Didn't look like a rack mount but if they are that would be very commendable. You probably aren't a clyde if 140mm rotors work. Hmmm. My tandem had two cantis, and my wife and I weighed over 300 lbs. We never had problems stopping, although I did overheat the rims once coming down Rocky Point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NPqQptjbF0 Over the the 12 years I owned the CX bike, my weight ranged from 193-220lbs.. I'm closer to the bottom end again. I never had problems stopping on my CX bike with 140 rotors and mechanical discs unless I forgot to adjust the pads or they wore out on the ride. And I live in a hilly place. I'm not doing 20 mile 10% descents on the way to work. Maybe the uber-gnarly steep roads in Cameron Park require 180mm rotors. I don't need a cargo bike. I want something fun to ride on gravel and through the hills on the way home. If I found myself in need of a rack, I'd buy a beater frane with rack mounts -- which I might do. So you don't carry much back and forth? I did a valley trip yesterday. Hot day and the extra water alone filled more than one pannier. On the way back there are no fountains until 3mi before I am home. No, again, I don't need a cargo bike. And in a lifetime of riding, I've hauled water once -- riding across Wyoming in a place where it was 60 miles between towns. I rode from Seattle to Portland in a day with peak heat in the 90s and probably filled my bottles four times. No water bags. No racks. Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. The distance from Cameron Park to Sacramento is 34 miles. If you need water bags for that, then you are a special person. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 7/27/2017 9:39 AM, jbeattie wrote:
snip rotors work. Hmmm. My tandem had two cantis, and my wife and I weighed over 300 lbs. We never had problems stopping, although I did overheat the rims once coming down Rocky Point. For touring in mountainous locations, on tandems, the common solution was an Arai drum brake in the rear wheel set up with a drag control, often a 3 speed twist grip. I had a spare wheel with the drum brake, sold by Trek, but I think I only used it once. It was ridiculously heavy. With the advent of disc brakes, it's not necessary anymore and the Arai drum brake has been discontinued. http://www.precisiontandems.com/arai.htm. |
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On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 09:31, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote: Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/ Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. What always peeves me and is one reason why I am sticking with my 35 year old steel frame road bike is that manufacturers of "modern" bikes seem to assume nobody has to carry anything. No rack attachment points. Schlepping a laptop, water, food and other stuff in a backpack is a real pain especially when it's over 100F out there and the ride is mostly in the sun. When I took delivery of this full-custom road bike in the early 80's the very first thing I did was to add lights and a nice big rack. I made sure the frame I selected had provisions for that. I even have a full rack (almost all home-made) on my FS-MTB. Stiffened so the panniers won't sway into the spoked even during very rough rides. Plus now a top trunk. Detachable in case a package has to be brought to Fedex along the way. The available trunks can hold 1-1/2 gallons of water, food, prototype parts for clients, a tool set and whatever else is needed. They make bikes for that. You just don't own one. I can go down the street an buy one. http://www.splendidcycles.com/ https://bikeportland.org/tag/cargo-bikes Sure, but I meant a fast commuter, not a behemoth. By the way, I bought the CF (not allow) Norco Search: http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve.../search-c-105/ Interesting, Why did they drop the price so much versus list? Western Bikeworks has great deals. I got a Garmin 520 bundle for my son at the Christmas in-store super-sale for about $275 USD. I like the people there, too. It's internet and bricks-and-mortar. Lately I find many bike shops going brick&mortar, web site, plus EBay. What puzzles me happens on a regular basis: I see a part such as a tire I want on their web site and it's $20. Ok but that's plus shipping which makes the whole deal a non-starter. Then I go on EBay, find the same tire for $15, free shipping, same (!) store. Yet there they must pay a hefty sales commission. Beats me why they do that. An example is Bikewagon in Utah where I always got free ship on EBay but not direct. The Search alloy has rack mounts -- not the CF bike. The rotors are plenty big enough for a gravel bike. The 140mm rotors on my Cannondale CX bike were more than adequate. I saw something in the back. Didn't look like a rack mount but if they are that would be very commendable. You probably aren't a clyde if 140mm rotors work. Hmmm. My tandem had two cantis, and my wife and I weighed over 300 lbs. We never had problems stopping, although I did overheat the rims once coming down Rocky Point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NPqQptjbF0 Over the the 12 years I owned the CX bike, my weight ranged from 193-220lbs. I'm closer to the bottom end again. I never had problems stopping on my CX bike with 140 rotors and mechanical discs unless I forgot to adjust the pads or they wore out on the ride. And I live in a hilly place. I'm not doing 20 mile 10% descents on the way to work. Maybe the uber-gnarly steep roads in Cameron Park require 180mm rotors. Not in Cameron Park which doesn't have long hills but in neighboring areas. My MTB buddy weighs around 200lbs, his MTB has 8"/7" rotors, and then it happened. Before the last sharp turn down a long descent he lost his front brake. I don't need a cargo bike. I want something fun to ride on gravel and through the hills on the way home. If I found myself in need of a rack, I'd buy a beater frane with rack mounts -- which I might do. So you don't carry much back and forth? I did a valley trip yesterday. Hot day and the extra water alone filled more than one pannier. On the way back there are no fountains until 3mi before I am home. No, again, I don't need a cargo bike. And in a lifetime of riding, I've hauled water once -- riding across Wyoming in a place where it was 60 miles between towns. I rode from Seattle to Portland in a day with peak heat in the 90s and probably filled my bottles four times. No water bags. No racks. Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. The distance from Cameron Park to Sacramento is 34 miles. If you need water bags for that, then you are a special person. Yeah, I sweat a lot which I inherited from my dad. However, riding tens of miles in 100F weather with just a bottle or two is not healthy for anyone unless you can fill up many times on the way. Any reputable sports physician would tell you the same. So does the army. I generally carry three 28oz bottles plus one or two 17oz electrolyte ones. On long MTB rides with no safe drinking water source I carry up to 1-1/2 gallons total. On those rides I often meet people, mostly hikers, with serious signs of dehydration. Some of my water occasionally goes to others. The topper was a guy in Yosemite Park who seriously had planned to hike up from the valley to the top of half dome and back, carrying little water and no food. IIRC he had a couple of small bottles which were all empty by then. We found him collapsed in bushes near the trail shortly before you get to the ropes. If I hadn't gazed out into the nature right there I wouldn't even have seen him and this guy was in major trouble. Similar for a Chinese woman in Grand Canyon. And on and on. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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New bike for Jay
On 2017-07-27 10:50, wrote:
I know 5-6 fast commuters but its expensive ... Like this? https://corporatejetinvestor.com/wp-.../Falcon_8X.jpg -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Beattie bought ? http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/ you’re gaining gravel stability but losing straight ahead power to round the stumps geometry My Redline trekker looks like https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...c5621e7447.jpg n itsa complete zero straight ahead. JB drinks chlorinated water. Over 100 miles at 90 degrees this north desert african consumes 3+ quarts after hydrating the night before |
New bike for Jay
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 09:31, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote: Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/ Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. What always peeves me and is one reason why I am sticking with my 35 year old steel frame road bike is that manufacturers of "modern" bikes seem to assume nobody has to carry anything. No rack attachment points. Schlepping a laptop, water, food and other stuff in a backpack is a real pain especially when it's over 100F out there and the ride is mostly in the sun. When I took delivery of this full-custom road bike in the early 80's the very first thing I did was to add lights and a nice big rack. I made sure the frame I selected had provisions for that. I even have a full rack (almost all home-made) on my FS-MTB. Stiffened so the panniers won't sway into the spoked even during very rough rides. Plus now a top trunk. Detachable in case a package has to be brought to Fedex along the way. The available trunks can hold 1-1/2 gallons of water, food, prototype parts for clients, a tool set and whatever else is needed. They make bikes for that. You just don't own one. I can go down the street an buy one. http://www.splendidcycles.com/ https://bikeportland.org/tag/cargo-bikes Sure, but I meant a fast commuter, not a behemoth. By the way, I bought the CF (not allow) Norco Search: http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve.../search-c-105/ Interesting, Why did they drop the price so much versus list? Western Bikeworks has great deals. I got a Garmin 520 bundle for my son at the Christmas in-store super-sale for about $275 USD. I like the people there, too. It's internet and bricks-and-mortar. Lately I find many bike shops going brick&mortar, web site, plus EBay. What puzzles me happens on a regular basis: I see a part such as a tire I want on their web site and it's $20. Ok but that's plus shipping which makes the whole deal a non-starter. Then I go on EBay, find the same tire for $15, free shipping, same (!) store. Yet there they must pay a hefty sales commission. Beats me why they do that. An example is Bikewagon in Utah where I always got free ship on EBay but not direct. The Search alloy has rack mounts -- not the CF bike. The rotors are plenty big enough for a gravel bike. The 140mm rotors on my Cannondale CX bike were more than adequate. I saw something in the back. Didn't look like a rack mount but if they are that would be very commendable. You probably aren't a clyde if 140mm rotors work. Hmmm. My tandem had two cantis, and my wife and I weighed over 300 lbs. We never had problems stopping, although I did overheat the rims once coming down Rocky Point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NPqQptjbF0 Over the the 12 years I owned the CX bike, my weight ranged from 193-220lbs. I'm closer to the bottom end again. I never had problems stopping on my CX bike with 140 rotors and mechanical discs unless I forgot to adjust the pads or they wore out on the ride. And I live in a hilly place. I'm not doing 20 mile 10% descents on the way to work. Maybe the uber-gnarly steep roads in Cameron Park require 180mm rotors. Not in Cameron Park which doesn't have long hills but in neighboring areas. My MTB buddy weighs around 200lbs, his MTB has 8"/7" rotors, and then it happened. Before the last sharp turn down a long descent he lost his front brake. I don't need a cargo bike. I want something fun to ride on gravel and through the hills on the way home. If I found myself in need of a rack, I'd buy a beater frane with rack mounts -- which I might do. So you don't carry much back and forth? I did a valley trip yesterday. Hot day and the extra water alone filled more than one pannier. On the way back there are no fountains until 3mi before I am home. No, again, I don't need a cargo bike. And in a lifetime of riding, I've hauled water once -- riding across Wyoming in a place where it was 60 miles between towns. I rode from Seattle to Portland in a day with peak heat in the 90s and probably filled my bottles four times. No water bags. No racks. Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. The distance from Cameron Park to Sacramento is 34 miles. If you need water bags for that, then you are a special person. Yeah, I sweat a lot which I inherited from my dad. However, riding tens of miles in 100F weather with just a bottle or two is not healthy for anyone unless you can fill up many times on the way. Any reputable sports physician would tell you the same. So does the army. I generally carry three 28oz bottles plus one or two 17oz electrolyte ones. On long MTB rides with no safe drinking water source I carry up to 1-1/2 gallons total. On those rides I often meet people, mostly hikers, with serious signs of dehydration. Some of my water occasionally goes to others. Again, I'm talking about a road bike. I've run out of water and been miserable for a while, but I've always found water. I'm alive today, mostly. The topper was a guy in Yosemite Park who seriously had planned to hike up from the valley to the top of half dome and back, carrying little water and no food. IIRC he had a couple of small bottles which were all empty by then. We found him collapsed in bushes near the trail shortly before you get to the ropes. If I hadn't gazed out into the nature right there I wouldn't even have seen him and this guy was in major trouble. Similar for a Chinese woman in Grand Canyon. And on and on. I know people who killed themselves by drinking too much water. Google hyponatremia. I've done the hike from Glacier Point to Half Dome a bunch of times. I usually stopped for water at Nevada Falls. I don't know why your guy was dropping dead at the cables. Dopes do dopey things. They don't let you down into the Grand Canyon unless you have water, so I don't know what the deal was with your Chinese woman, either. Maybe she did some Kung Fu on the rangers who check your backpack for water, etc., and ran down the trail. I've been riding a really long time -- continuously. No decade off for bad traffic. Never have I needed to take multiple gallons of water on a road ride, including rides across the US from east to west and north to south (west coast). I've done the Sierra many times, including the Death Ride twice -- which is really well supported, so no need for oodles of spare water. But even on tour, I think I had a couple of bottles for a loop from now-burning Mariposa/Yosemite/Lee Vining/Tahoe/HWY 49 back to Mariposa. I had two bottles on every other tour but did have a water bag that I mostly used as a blow-up pillow -- except in Wyoming. I did screw up and forget to buy food on a bike tour in Oregon. My wife and I ended up eating blackberries for dinner. There have been other food or drink mistakes, but nothing epic. Riding down the wasteland of the California coast, we ran out of gin and tonic -- until we hit the Little River Inn. It was horrible! Ah ha! I did run out of water on that ride -- between HWY 1 south of Mendocino and Cloverdale, riding inland over the mountains which were more mountain-y than expected. We found a little winery in the middle of nowhere and filled up. We were headed toward a town that turned out not to be there. Very odd. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 2017-07-27 15:26, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote: [...] I don't need a cargo bike. I want something fun to ride on gravel and through the hills on the way home. If I found myself in need of a rack, I'd buy a beater frane with rack mounts -- which I might do. So you don't carry much back and forth? I did a valley trip yesterday. Hot day and the extra water alone filled more than one pannier. On the way back there are no fountains until 3mi before I am home. No, again, I don't need a cargo bike. And in a lifetime of riding, I've hauled water once -- riding across Wyoming in a place where it was 60 miles between towns. I rode from Seattle to Portland in a day with peak heat in the 90s and probably filled my bottles four times. No water bags. No racks. Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. The distance from Cameron Park to Sacramento is 34 miles. If you need water bags for that, then you are a special person. Yeah, I sweat a lot which I inherited from my dad. However, riding tens of miles in 100F weather with just a bottle or two is not healthy for anyone unless you can fill up many times on the way. Any reputable sports physician would tell you the same. So does the army. I generally carry three 28oz bottles plus one or two 17oz electrolyte ones. On long MTB rides with no safe drinking water source I carry up to 1-1/2 gallons total. On those rides I often meet people, mostly hikers, with serious signs of dehydration. Some of my water occasionally goes to others. Again, I'm talking about a road bike. I've run out of water and been miserable for a while, but I've always found water. I'm alive today, mostly. It's ok once in a while but going into dehydration on a regular basis will cause damage. The topper was a guy in Yosemite Park who seriously had planned to hike up from the valley to the top of half dome and back, carrying little water and no food. IIRC he had a couple of small bottles which were all empty by then. We found him collapsed in bushes near the trail shortly before you get to the ropes. If I hadn't gazed out into the nature right there I wouldn't even have seen him and this guy was in major trouble. Similar for a Chinese woman in Grand Canyon. And on and on. I know people who killed themselves by drinking too much water. Google hyponatremia. You'd pretty much have to sop up the Columbia River on a bike to get there. I've done the hike from Glacier Point to Half Dome a bunch of times. I usually stopped for water at Nevada Falls. I don't know why your guy was dropping dead at the cables. Dopes do dopey things. Every time I was there they had signs posted not to drink it because of Guardia. I guess some folks drank it anyhow. They don't let you down into the Grand Canyon unless you have water, so I don't know what the deal was with your Chinese woman, either. Maybe she did some Kung Fu on the rangers who check your backpack for water, etc., and ran down the trail. It's been over 20 years since I was there last but I hiked down to the Colorado and back numerous times. Kaibab - Bright Angel or sometimes only on the Bright Angel trail. Nobody ever checked us. In fact, there wasn't anyone there to check us. The only rangers were at the station shortly before heading out to the plateau. That's where we brought the Chinese woman because it looked like she could not walk any farther uphill. I've been riding a really long time -- continuously. No decade off for bad traffic. Never have I needed to take multiple gallons of water on a road ride, including rides across the US from east to west and north to south (west coast). I've done the Sierra many times, including the Death Ride twice -- which is really well supported, so no need for oodles of spare water. Some routes are well-supported, then I don't take much water either. MTB routes often have zilch. What you don't carry in you simply won't have available. ... But even on tour, I think I had a couple of bottles for a loop from now-burning Mariposa/Yosemite/Lee Vining/Tahoe/HWY 49 back to Mariposa. I had two bottles on every other tour but did have a water bag that I mostly used as a blow-up pillow -- except in Wyoming. I did screw up and forget to buy food on a bike tour in Oregon. My wife and I ended up eating blackberries for dinner. I did that. Once. Not because I messed up but because they looked so delicious. Probably close to two pounds and then I felt a very sudden urge to pedal home. Fast. ... There have been other food or drink mistakes, but nothing epic. Riding down the wasteland of the California coast, we ran out of gin and tonic -- until we hit the Little River Inn. It was horrible! Ah ha! I did run out of water on that ride -- between HWY 1 south of Mendocino and Cloverdale, riding inland over the mountains which were more mountain-y than expected. We found a little winery in the middle of nowhere and filled up. We were headed toward a town that turned out not to be there. Very odd. I had that in Nevada once. The map listed a town. When we got there it was completely deserted and quiet, the only noise being an old gas station sign squeaking in the wind. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:58:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
It's Giardia - (Gee-ardia) - this is the most common water born parasite. Most of the water on the west coast has it because there are so many areas without proper sanitary treatment facilities. That's why you should NEVER drink any water from anywhere that isn't treated. This is world wide. The medications to clear the runs up normally only works about 2/3rds of the time. Although it usually clears up by itself in two or so weeks it can leave effects for a year. NOT FUN. Any areas that are posted should also be treated as non-swimming and non-washing. |
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On 7/27/2017 6:58 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-27 15:26, jbeattie wrote: July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote: July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote: snip I had that in Nevada once. The map listed a town. When we got there it was completely deserted and quiet, the only noise being an old gas station sign squeaking in the wind. especially after the Cameron Park train pulls out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkHsinz7oU -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 6:26:37 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 09:31, jbeattie wrote: On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote: Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve...h-a-105-hydro/ Nice bike though 160/140mm rotors are IMO too wimpy. What always peeves me and is one reason why I am sticking with my 35 year old steel frame road bike is that manufacturers of "modern" bikes seem to assume nobody has to carry anything. No rack attachment points. Schlepping a laptop, water, food and other stuff in a backpack is a real pain especially when it's over 100F out there and the ride is mostly in the sun. When I took delivery of this full-custom road bike in the early 80's the very first thing I did was to add lights and a nice big rack. I made sure the frame I selected had provisions for that. I even have a full rack (almost all home-made) on my FS-MTB. Stiffened so the panniers won't sway into the spoked even during very rough rides. Plus now a top trunk. Detachable in case a package has to be brought to Fedex along the way. The available trunks can hold 1-1/2 gallons of water, food, prototype parts for clients, a tool set and whatever else is needed. They make bikes for that. You just don't own one. I can go down the street an buy one. http://www.splendidcycles.com/ https://bikeportland.org/tag/cargo-bikes Sure, but I meant a fast commuter, not a behemoth. By the way, I bought the CF (not allow) Norco Search: http://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adve.../search-c-105/ Interesting, Why did they drop the price so much versus list? Western Bikeworks has great deals. I got a Garmin 520 bundle for my son at the Christmas in-store super-sale for about $275 USD. I like the people there, too. It's internet and bricks-and-mortar. Lately I find many bike shops going brick&mortar, web site, plus EBay. What puzzles me happens on a regular basis: I see a part such as a tire I want on their web site and it's $20. Ok but that's plus shipping which makes the whole deal a non-starter. Then I go on EBay, find the same tire for $15, free shipping, same (!) store. Yet there they must pay a hefty sales commission. Beats me why they do that. An example is Bikewagon in Utah where I always got free ship on EBay but not direct. The Search alloy has rack mounts -- not the CF bike. The rotors are plenty big enough for a gravel bike. The 140mm rotors on my Cannondale CX bike were more than adequate. I saw something in the back. Didn't look like a rack mount but if they are that would be very commendable. You probably aren't a clyde if 140mm rotors work. Hmmm. My tandem had two cantis, and my wife and I weighed over 300 lbs. We never had problems stopping, although I did overheat the rims once coming down Rocky Point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NPqQptjbF0 Over the the 12 years I owned the CX bike, my weight ranged from 193-220lbs. I'm closer to the bottom end again. I never had problems stopping on my CX bike with 140 rotors and mechanical discs unless I forgot to adjust the pads or they wore out on the ride. And I live in a hilly place. I'm not doing 20 mile 10% descents on the way to work. Maybe the uber-gnarly steep roads in Cameron Park require 180mm rotors. Not in Cameron Park which doesn't have long hills but in neighboring areas. My MTB buddy weighs around 200lbs, his MTB has 8"/7" rotors, and then it happened. Before the last sharp turn down a long descent he lost his front brake. I don't need a cargo bike. I want something fun to ride on gravel and through the hills on the way home. If I found myself in need of a rack, I'd buy a beater frane with rack mounts -- which I might do. So you don't carry much back and forth? I did a valley trip yesterday. Hot day and the extra water alone filled more than one pannier. On the way back there are no fountains until 3mi before I am home. No, again, I don't need a cargo bike. And in a lifetime of riding, I've hauled water once -- riding across Wyoming in a place where it was 60 miles between towns. I rode from Seattle to Portland in a day with peak heat in the 90s and probably filled my bottles four times. No water bags. No racks. Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. The distance from Cameron Park to Sacramento is 34 miles. If you need water bags for that, then you are a special person. Yeah, I sweat a lot which I inherited from my dad. However, riding tens of miles in 100F weather with just a bottle or two is not healthy for anyone unless you can fill up many times on the way. Any reputable sports physician would tell you the same. So does the army. I generally carry three 28oz bottles plus one or two 17oz electrolyte ones. On long MTB rides with no safe drinking water source I carry up to 1-1/2 gallons total. On those rides I often meet people, mostly hikers, with serious signs of dehydration. Some of my water occasionally goes to others. Again, I'm talking about a road bike. I've run out of water and been miserable for a while, but I've always found water. I'm alive today, mostly. The topper was a guy in Yosemite Park who seriously had planned to hike up from the valley to the top of half dome and back, carrying little water and no food. IIRC he had a couple of small bottles which were all empty by then. We found him collapsed in bushes near the trail shortly before you get to the ropes. If I hadn't gazed out into the nature right there I wouldn't even have seen him and this guy was in major trouble. Similar for a Chinese woman in Grand Canyon. And on and on. I know people who killed themselves by drinking too much water. Google hyponatremia. I've done the hike from Glacier Point to Half Dome a bunch of times. I usually stopped for water at Nevada Falls. I don't know why your guy was dropping dead at the cables. Dopes do dopey things. They don't let you down into the Grand Canyon unless you have water, so I don't know what the deal was with your Chinese woman, either. Maybe she did some Kung Fu on the rangers who check your backpack for water, etc., and ran down the trail. I've been riding a really long time -- continuously. No decade off for bad traffic. Never have I needed to take multiple gallons of water on a road ride, including rides across the US from east to west and north to south (west coast). I've done the Sierra many times, including the Death Ride twice -- which is really well supported, so no need for oodles of spare water. But even on tour, I think I had a couple of bottles for a loop from now-burning Mariposa/Yosemite/Lee Vining/Tahoe/HWY 49 back to Mariposa. I had two bottles on every other tour but did have a water bag that I mostly used as a blow-up pillow -- except in Wyoming. I did screw up and forget to buy food on a bike tour in Oregon. My wife and I ended up eating blackberries for dinner. There have been other food or drink mistakes, but nothing epic. Riding down the wasteland of the California coast, we ran out of gin and tonic -- until we hit the Little River Inn. It was horrible! Ah ha! I did run out of water on that ride -- between HWY 1 south of Mendocino and Cloverdale, riding inland over the mountains which were more mountain-y than expected. We found a little winery in the middle of nowhere and filled up. We were headed toward a town that turned out not to be there. Very odd. -- Jay Beattie. not challenging your authority but the idea is if you are thirsty then drink water ... good water. what you're telling us is you know how thirsty you are from A-B pre hydrating with carb loading is a good start costX2+10% |
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote: Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ |
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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/27/2017 6:58 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-27 15:26, jbeattie wrote: July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote: July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote: snip I had that in Nevada once. The map listed a town. When we got there it was completely deserted and quiet, the only noise being an old gas station sign squeaking in the wind. especially after the Cameron Park train pulls out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkHsinz7oU Nevada and Utah have so many ghost towns that there are probably more of those than actual towns. |
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On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 8:22:57 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote: Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles. Yesterday I rode a metric with one small and really bad cup of coffee. And I averaged 14.5 mph even though I was riding through city traffic with stop signs and lights everywhere. I did hydrate after I got home. |
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 9:31:55 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-7, Doug Landau wrote: Can we start speccing out equipment for Jay the way we do for Jorge? I'll start with this thing. Jay tell us again what frame size you ride? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...230636448.html Wow. That's a deal. I ride a 63cm in Cannondale. The OE Ksyrium wheels are a non-starter. I couldn't keep them true. But I'd buy that bike, and I was even in SF yesterday. Oh well. I need two bikes, but both have been or are in the process of being replaced. I splurged and sort of replaced my commuter with a CF gravel bike for $1,600. at Western Bikeworks. An on-sale Norco Search. I couldn't help myself. It's a bike I've always liked. It's 105 level, which is more than fine -- and godbless Norco for using the whole component group and not some FSA or TruVativ crank or Tektro brakes. This is a fun bike and probably too nice for a commuter, so who knows, I might buy a beater frame and throw together a dead of winter commuter. Cannondale will probably give me something as a replacement for the broken CX frame. I just didn't want to wait to go through that process, and I wanted a gravel bike anyway. Hey, keep the economy strong. Bike sales are down. We have to do our part. My uber-bike to replace the smashed SuperSix is going to be an Emonda because my son loves his, and I do work for Trek, so they'll give me a deal on a great bike. I like dealing with the fine folks in Wisconsin. I have always gone with the US companies because I'm a krypto-nationalist, even if the production is done elsewhere (or a lot of it). I like long warranties. If someone gave me a Pinarello, however, I would not throw it out -- although I'm not hot on Italiano BBs. -- Jay Beattie. oooo, katakura, mmmm https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik...238219852.html |
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On 2017-07-27 17:46, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/27/2017 6:58 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-27 15:26, jbeattie wrote: July 27, 2017 at 10:35:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-27 09:39, jbeattie wrote: July 27, 2017 at 7:56:30 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-07-26 11:07, jbeattie wrote: snip I had that in Nevada once. The map listed a town. When we got there it was completely deserted and quiet, the only noise being an old gas station sign squeaking in the wind. especially after the Cameron Park train pulls out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkHsinz7oU That was one of the best Westerns of all times. I have seen it almost 20 times. Next week I'll ride through he https://cdn-files.apstatic.com/mtb/1...1371328168.jpg It used to be a tunnel but the top is gone. Lots of lore about how that happened. Maybe Rooster Cogburn came through there and blew it all up. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Joy Beeson wrote:
:On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote: : Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. :When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles. Jay's a camel. -- sig 42 |
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On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote:
Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote: : Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. :When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles. Jay's a camel. Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more than two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I don't go into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with a rack so I can haul gallons of water on a day ride. Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle bosses and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding trails in the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or some other option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on a day ride. -- Jay Beattie. |
New bike for Jay
On 2017-07-28 15:57, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote: Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote: : Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. :When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles. Jay's a camel. Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more than two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I don't go into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with a rack so I can haul gallons of water on a day ride. A few week ago time I also hauled a homebrewed IPA in a stainless 16oz thermos. Plus a nice lunch with crunchy bread baked for the trub (the residue at the bottom of a beer fermenter). Plus a pristine view where I had lunch: http://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/bike/SouthFork1.JPG The was no drinking water source the whole 20mi and it was up and down all the time. Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle bosses and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding trails in the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or some other option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on a day ride. A hydration pack is what most riders use around here and, consequently, end up with sweat-soaked backs when it's 100F or or. They also regularly run out of water which means a detour that I don't have to take. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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What is a gravel bike n why in Portland ?
if I search 'gravel bikes' am I locating that type bike you want or bought...the linked bike is the bike bought for commuting ? |
New bike for Jay
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On 7/28/2017 8:00 PM, Joerg wrote:
The was no drinking water source the whole 20mi and it was up and down all the time. Gosh! -- - Frank Krygowski |
New bike for Jay
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 5:47:19 PM UTC-7, wrote:
What is a gravel bike n why in Portland ? if I search 'gravel bikes' am I locating that type bike you want or bought...the linked bike is the bike bought for commuting ? Low bottom bracket, fender clearance and disc brakes. Gravel bikes are perfect commuters. The geometry is just like a 1975 touring bike with a longer head tube. Get an aluminum or steel one if you want fenders. Plus, we have lots of gravel. Here's some happy campers on gravel bikes do a ride I did a few weeks ago -- on my Roubaix. http://www.pathlesspedaled.com/2015/...ned-beef-hash/ Alex Barr Road is really steep. It doesn't show in those pictures. I also didn't take the train to get out of town. I took a MUP and some roads. I really got the bike because it was practically half price, and I always wanted one. I have dreams of more serious gravel riding. I've got so many spare parts now that I might build an beater commuter for the winter. Maybe steel! -- Jay Beattie. |
New bike for Jay
List is too much. Good deal.
Way more trail than my trekker with more tire seat post clearance. Is a 2.0" possible ? Tried larger front narrower rear ? My warped perspective on using this frame for commuting n not round the stumps warps prob caws ura seriously stronger rider. Seat post sitting is hill climbing n then stand to negotiate or power ... with less from the rear placed seat post/saddle. Until I get to gravity gravel ...the geo means lost power ...with JB the long trail mtb/cx is but another hill. Bummer on the size. Most everything is too ergo tight. The Raleigh is too short...muh butt sores. All those exotic hiking boots...water sneakers. With a linger stroke yawl get max more from the hill climb position. Spec may sell a long mount saddle goes back further ..I have Ritchey 4 clamp mount ..carrying spare hardware n a round cabinet magnet. How'the hub gen fitting in ? |
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David Scheidt wrote: Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote: : Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles. :When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten miles. Jay's a camel. Or maybe he just doesn’t ride in a desert. I can certainly go 20-25 miles with a regular sized water bottle in moderate ~75F/24C conditions. I’ve gone on winter bike rides where I’ve gone that far and drunk half as much. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly |
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