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Armstrong Acromegaly?
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Armstrong Acromegaly?
Kenneth wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/sc That jaw line is odd. It almost doesn't look like him. There's a lot more to acromegaly than a prominent chin. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 |
Armstrong Acromegaly?
"Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" wrote in message ... Kenneth wrote: http://sports.yahoo.com/sc That jaw line is odd. It almost doesn't look like him. There's a lot more to acromegaly than a prominent chin. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 True, but compare with: http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...f4/Lance.shtml http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...celuke21.shtml from 2000. Maybe it's the camera angle, but it's a very strange looking photo from this year. |
Armstrong Acromegaly?
"Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" wrote in message
... Kenneth wrote: http://sports.yahoo.com/sc That jaw line is odd. It almost doesn't look like him. There's a lot more to acromegaly than a prominent chin. And also little reason to suspect any endurance athlete of growth hormone abuse, since it would do nothing to help their performance. Andy Coggan |
Armstrong Acromegaly?
"Andy Coggan" wrote in message ink.net... "Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" wrote in message ... Kenneth wrote: http://sports.yahoo.com/sc That jaw line is odd. It almost doesn't look like him. There's a lot more to acromegaly than a prominent chin. And also little reason to suspect any endurance athlete of growth hormone abuse, since it would do nothing to help their performance. Andy Coggan Indeed. Manzano is just one of the disgruntled 5% who dope and then lie and smear all the other clean riders. From CyclingNews: Spanish ex-rofessional Jesus Manzano has continued to blow the whistle on the alleged doping practices within his former team, Kelme. In the second part of an in depth interview with Spanish sports newspaper AS, Manzano has gone into more detail about the use of illegal substances such as erythropoetin (EPO) and human growth hormone (HGH), with more to come. Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training and during competition, because it is not able to be detected in drug controls. He also said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order to maximise its effect. But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he described previously, the riders experienced negative reactions to the drug. |
Armstrong Acromegaly?
B. Lafferty wrote:
"Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" wrote in message ... Kenneth wrote: http://sports.yahoo.com/sc That jaw line is odd. It almost doesn't look like him. There's a lot more to acromegaly than a prominent chin. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 True, but compare with: http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...f4/Lance.shtml http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...celuke21.shtml from 2000. Maybe it's the camera angle, but it's a very strange looking photo from this year. It has more to do with his facial expression and how in the new photo his upper lip is tensed (shortened) toward his nose, and his upper lip is raised. His lower jaw is also protruded. I'll grant that there isn't enough in the photo to really go by one way or the other. The changes in physiognomy in acromegaly are pretty characteristic (think Ted Cassidy, who played Lurch in the Addams Family). The suggestion of acromegally is certainly not absurd if you think cyclists are taking HGH for extended periods. This is certainly not risk-free either--I'm way past my pharmo, but growth hormone is definitely diabetogenic. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 |
Armstrong Acromegaly?
Setting aside any reference to a specific cyclist, I recall two or three
years ago there were reports (CyclingNews perhaps) about riders using HGH and having dental and foot surgery as a result. "Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" wrote in message ... B. Lafferty wrote: "Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" wrote in message ... Kenneth wrote: http://sports.yahoo.com/sc That jaw line is odd. It almost doesn't look like him. There's a lot more to acromegaly than a prominent chin. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 True, but compare with: http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...f4/Lance.shtml http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...celuke21.shtml from 2000. Maybe it's the camera angle, but it's a very strange looking photo from this year. It has more to do with his facial expression and how in the new photo his upper lip is tensed (shortened) toward his nose, and his upper lip is raised. His lower jaw is also protruded. I'll grant that there isn't enough in the photo to really go by one way or the other. The changes in physiognomy in acromegaly are pretty characteristic (think Ted Cassidy, who played Lurch in the Addams Family). The suggestion of acromegally is certainly not absurd if you think cyclists are taking HGH for extended periods. This is certainly not risk-free either--I'm way past my pharmo, but growth hormone is definitely diabetogenic. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 |
Armstrong Acromegaly?
Andy Coggan wrote:
"Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" wrote in message ... Kenneth wrote: http://sports.yahoo.com/sc That jaw line is odd. It almost doesn't look like him. There's a lot more to acromegaly than a prominent chin. And also little reason to suspect any endurance athlete of growth hormone abuse, since it would do nothing to help their performance. Andy Coggan My memory may be faulty again. But wasn't Zootemelk once accused of taking HGH, and his soigneur said he was given the drug because he was losing weight too rapidly in the Tour? Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 |
Armstrong Acromegaly?
B. Lafferty wrote:
Setting aside any reference to a specific cyclist, I recall two or three years ago there were reports (CyclingNews perhaps) about riders using HGH and having dental and foot surgery as a result. Hmm. I'm not sure what the dental problem would be. I believe HGH does act as a glucocorticoid, and could interfere with inflammation and healing processes in the mouth. And diebetics tend to have aggressive periodontal disease, but this would be a very late effect--years later. Steve "Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" wrote in message ... B. Lafferty wrote: "Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" wrote in message ... Kenneth wrote: http://sports.yahoo.com/sc That jaw line is odd. It almost doesn't look like him. There's a lot more to acromegaly than a prominent chin. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 True, but compare with: http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...f4/Lance.shtml http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...celuke21.shtml from 2000. Maybe it's the camera angle, but it's a very strange looking photo from this year. It has more to do with his facial expression and how in the new photo his upper lip is tensed (shortened) toward his nose, and his upper lip is raised. His lower jaw is also protruded. I'll grant that there isn't enough in the photo to really go by one way or the other. The changes in physiognomy in acromegaly are pretty characteristic (think Ted Cassidy, who played Lurch in the Addams Family). The suggestion of acromegally is certainly not absurd if you think cyclists are taking HGH for extended periods. This is certainly not risk-free either--I'm way past my pharmo, but growth hormone is definitely diabetogenic. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 |
Armstrong Acromegaly?
"Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" wrote in message ... B. Lafferty wrote: Setting aside any reference to a specific cyclist, I recall two or three years ago there were reports (CyclingNews perhaps) about riders using HGH and having dental and foot surgery as a result. Hmm. I'm not sure what the dental problem would be. I believe HGH does act as a glucocorticoid, and could interfere with inflammation and healing processes in the mouth. And diebetics tend to have aggressive periodontal disease, but this would be a very late effect--years later. Steve My understanding is that causes certain bones to start growing again resulting in elongation of the jaw, hands and feet. I would assume that growth in the jaw would affect a person's bite and could lead to other dental problems, no? It would be a pain to have to keep getting bigger shoes, I guess. |
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