The BMA Promote Safer Cycling
Simon Mason wrote:
wrote in message ... There have recently been some less than honest posts (again) by Guy Chapman - this time concerning the British Medical Association (BMA) policy of Promoting Safe Cycling. The BMA also says it is bad for our health to consume more than two pints of beer a day, which is tosh as well. IIRC wasn't there a recent admission that the "safe" numbers of alcohol units was just plucked out of the air, because it sounded about right? Why do people keep listening the these body technicians and mistake their declarations for science? |
The BMA Promote Safer Cycling
"Marc" wrote in message The BMA also says it is bad for our health to consume more than two pints of beer a day, which is tosh as well. IIRC wasn't there a recent admission that the "safe" numbers of alcohol units was just plucked out of the air, because it sounded about right? Why do people keep listening the these body technicians and mistake their declarations for science? Because some people are in awe of someone who has a few letters after their name, instead of using their own brain. -- Simon Mason http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ |
The BMA Promote Safer Cycling
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:27:06 +0100, "Simon Mason"
wrote: wrote in message .. . There have recently been some less than honest posts (again) by Guy Chapman - this time concerning the British Medical Association (BMA) policy of Promoting Safe Cycling. The BMA also says it is bad for our health to consume more than two pints of beer a day, which is tosh as well. I am sure you are probably right - however I have not seen that - can you give a reference please? -- "Primary position" the middle of a traffic lane. To take the "primary position" : to ride a bike in the middle of the lane in order to obstruct other road vehicles from overtaking. A term invented by and used by psycholists and not recognised in the Highway Code. |
The BMA Promote Safer Cycling
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:35:02 +0100, Marc
wrote: Simon Mason wrote: wrote in message ... There have recently been some less than honest posts (again) by Guy Chapman - this time concerning the British Medical Association (BMA) policy of Promoting Safe Cycling. The BMA also says it is bad for our health to consume more than two pints of beer a day, which is tosh as well. IIRC wasn't there a recent admission that the "safe" numbers of alcohol units was just plucked out of the air, because it sounded about right? Why do people keep listening the these body technicians and mistake their declarations for science? Perhaps because they have relevant training and qualifications - just like the Bicycle Helmet Research Foundation - oh - sorry I got that wrong - they are just a bunch of charlatans. -- "Primary position" the middle of a traffic lane. To take the "primary position" : to ride a bike in the middle of the lane in order to obstruct other road vehicles from overtaking. A term invented by and used by psycholists and not recognised in the Highway Code. |
The BMA Promote Safer Cycling
"Judith Smith" wrote in message ... The BMA also says it is bad for our health to consume more than two pints of beer a day, which is tosh as well. I am sure you are probably right - however I have not seen that - can you give a reference please? Sure http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/Iop/PRT/sensible.htm The sensible drinking message set out in the Lord President's Report on Alcohol Misuse in 1991 was adopted by the Health of the Nation in 1992. This promoted the simple message that drinking less than 21 units of alcohol per week for men and 14 units for women was unlikely to damage health. The targets set were a reduction in the percentage of men drinking more than 21 units per week from 28% in 1990 to 18% in 2005 and of women drinking more than 14 units per week from 11% in 1990 to 7% in 2005. Two years later despite a lack of progress towards these targets, and in response to a parliamentary question in April 1994, the Government established an inter-departmental working group. Its purpose was to review the sensible drinking message in light of possible evidence for a cardiovascular protective effect afforded by alcohol. Their deliberations produced the 1995 report entitled 'Sensible Drinking'. In the report they concluded that daily benchmarks could help individuals decide how much to drink on single occasions and therefore enable them to avoid episodes of intoxication with their attendant health and social risks. Their advice being that the health benefit from drinking related to men aged over 40 and that the major part of this benefit could be obtained at levels as low as one unit a day, with the maximum health advantage lying between 1 and 2 units a day. The report went on to state that "regular consumption of between 3 and 4 units a day by men of all ages will not accrue significant health risk and consistently drinking 4 or more units a day is not advised as a sensible drinking level because of the progressive health risk it carries". As regards females, the health benefit from drinking related to postmenopausal women with the major part of this benefit being obtained at levels as low as one unit a day, the maximum health advantage lying between 1 and 2 units a day. The report stated that "regular consumption of between 2 and 3 units a day by women of all ages will not accrue any significant health risk and consistently drinking 3 or more units a day is not advised as a sensible drinking level because of the progressive health risk it carries". The significance of the additional 'any' in the recommendation for women is not clear and has not received any specific comment. In effect this raised the sensible drinking limits to a maximum of almost 28 units per week for men and almost 21 units per week for women. These new benchmarks represented a 50% rise on the previous upper limit for women and a 33% increase for men. In April 1995 the BMA (British Medical Association) responded with the recommendation that the sensible drinking limits of 21 units per week for men and 14 units per week for women should not be relaxed, a position with which the royal colleges of physicians, psychiatrists, and general practitioners concur. The conflicting reports concerning sensible drinking in Britain illustrate that there is no consensus on what is a sensible level of alcohol consumption, and as a result, there is an inconsistent and confused public health message. -- Simon Mason http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ |
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Misleading subjectline corrected
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The BMA Promote Cycle Helmet Use to make Cycling Safer
On Apr 19, 2:12*pm, "OG" wrote:
Misleading subjectline corrected Misleading subjectline corrected Francis |
The BMA Promote Safer Cycling
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:11:26 +0100,
Simon Mason wrote: "Judith Smith" wrote in message ... The BMA also says it is bad for our health to consume more than two pints of beer a day, which is tosh as well. I am sure you are probably right - however I have not seen that - can you give a reference please? Sure http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/Iop/PRT/sensible.htm The sensible drinking message set out in the Lord President's Report on Alcohol Misuse in 1991 was adopted by the Health of the Nation in 1992. The initial figure was plucked out of the air in 1987 due to "a feeling that you had to say something" according to Richard Smith a member of Royal College of Physicians who was on the committee that came up with the number. Googling alcohol "plucked out of the air" gets lots of newspaper columns on this. -- Andy Leighton = "The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials" - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_ |
The BMA Promote Safer Cycling
"Andy Leighton" wrote in message The initial figure was plucked out of the air in 1987 due to "a feeling that you had to say something" according to Richard Smith a member of Royal College of Physicians who was on the committee that came up with the number. Googling alcohol "plucked out of the air" gets lots of newspaper columns on this. Well, I've drunk 100-120 units a week for 30 years, so I must be due to die very soon! -- Simon Mason http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ |
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 06:31:31 -0700 (PDT), francis
wrote: Misleading subjectline corrected Francis Ditto :-) Guy -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/urc "To every complex problem there is a solution which is simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken Newsgroup may contain nuts. |
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