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Mark cleary April 5th 21 01:59 AM

tubeless or tubes
 
I wonder what most regular cyclist are riding these days. I see so much on tubeless sets up and I have never given it a thought. I don't flat much so I just do not see the benefit at all and really so much easier just putting a tube in. I am I in the minority these days?

Deacon Mark

AMuzi April 5th 21 02:56 AM

tubeless or tubes
 
On 4/4/2021 7:59 PM, Mark cleary wrote:
I wonder what most regular cyclist are riding these days. I see so much on tubeless sets up and I have never given it a thought. I don't flat much so I just do not see the benefit at all and really so much easier just putting a tube in. I am I in the minority these days?

Deacon Mark


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JBeattie April 5th 21 05:34 AM

tubeless or tubes
 
On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 5:59:56 PM UTC-7, Mark cleary wrote:
I wonder what most regular cyclist are riding these days. I see so much on tubeless sets up and I have never given it a thought. I don't flat much so I just do not see the benefit at all and really so much easier just putting a tube in. I am I in the minority these days?


No, I think most road cyclists are still using tubes.

-- Jay Beattie.

Lou Holtman[_5_] April 5th 21 07:36 AM

tubeless or tubes
 
Op maandag 5 april 2021 om 02:59:56 UTC+2 schreef Mark cleary:
I wonder what most regular cyclist are riding these days. I see so much on tubeless sets up and I have never given it a thought. I don't flat much so I just do not see the benefit at all and really so much easier just putting a tube in. I am I in the minority these days?

Deacon Mark



No you are not in the minority. Around here road bikes/utility bikes are almost 100% tubes. For ATB it is a little different but still the majority is riding tubes. For me tubeless would be very silly.

Lou

Frank Krygowski[_4_] April 5th 21 04:28 PM

tubeless or tubes
 
On 4/4/2021 8:59 PM, Mark cleary wrote:
I wonder what most regular cyclist are riding these days. I see so much on tubeless sets up and I have never given it a thought. I don't flat much so I just do not see the benefit at all and really so much easier just putting a tube in. I am I in the minority these days?


I'm not aware of any of my riding friends using tubeless.

The bike industry, including bike magazines, always have to hype
_something_ new. Don't confuse hype with actual benefits or actual
practice.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Tom Kunich[_4_] April 5th 21 05:16 PM

tubeless or tubes
 
On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 5:59:56 PM UTC-7, Mark cleary wrote:
I wonder what most regular cyclist are riding these days. I see so much on tubeless sets up and I have never given it a thought. I don't flat much so I just do not see the benefit at all and really so much easier just putting a tube in. I am I in the minority these days?

Deacon Mark

I changed to tubeless and used them for three years. Yes, you get minor flats less often but major flats are a real problem and messy as hell with a tubeless setup. Furthermore, getting a tire on and off of tubeless rims is a pain in the butt since tubeless tires are extremely tight on the rims. And you have to carry a tube anyway in case you get a flat that doesn't seal. So in the end i have returned to normal tubed clinchers with clincher rims.. I really see no advantage with tubeless unless you're a pro time trial specialist.

bob prohaska April 5th 21 08:14 PM

tubeless or tubes
 
Frank Krygowski wrote:

I'm not aware of any of my riding friends using tubeless.


Nonetheless, tubeless tires have taken over most applications.
The exceptions are usually cases where rims can't be airtight.

What's the impediment for bicycles? Is it the extreme aspect
ratio of bike tires? Manufacturing tolerances? Rim construction?

Thanks for reading,

bob prohaska


Tom Kunich[_4_] April 5th 21 08:30 PM

tubeless or tubes
 
On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 12:14:21 PM UTC-7, bob prohaska wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote:

I'm not aware of any of my riding friends using tubeless.

Nonetheless, tubeless tires have taken over most applications.
The exceptions are usually cases where rims can't be airtight.

What's the impediment for bicycles? Is it the extreme aspect
ratio of bike tires? Manufacturing tolerances? Rim construction?

Thanks for reading,

bob prohaska

Bob, Tubeless tires are a real bear to get on and off these days. And they are messy and you have to change the sealant at the very least once a year. And they STILL get serious flats if not minor ones So you have to carry a regular repair kit with a tube etc. There is an advantage to Time Trialists since the tires are lighter and have less rolling resistance. But other than that I see no real advantage that isn't offset by a real disadvantage.

SMS April 5th 21 09:03 PM

tubeless or tubes
 
On 4/4/2021 5:59 PM, Mark cleary wrote:
I wonder what most regular cyclist are riding these days. I see so much on tubeless sets up and I have never given it a thought. I don't flat much so I just do not see the benefit at all and really so much easier just putting a tube in. I am I in the minority these days?

Deacon Mark


If you're a racer and you have a support vehicle following you with
spare wheels then definitely go tubeless!

Tubeless adoption has not happened except at the high end. It's a lot of
trouble and expense to save just a small amount of weight.


Tosspot[_3_] April 5th 21 09:31 PM

tubeless or tubes
 
On 4/5/21 9:03 PM, sms wrote:
On 4/4/2021 5:59 PM, Mark cleary wrote:
I wonder what most regular cyclist are riding these days. I see so
much on tubeless sets up and I have never given it a thought. I don't
flat much so I just do not see the benefit at all and really so much
easier just putting a tube in. I am I in the minority these days?

Deacon Mark


If you're a racer and you have a support vehicle following you with
spare wheels then definitely go tubeless!

Tubeless adoption has not happened except at the high end. It's a lot of
trouble and expense to save just a small amount of weight.


I'm losing this. We are talking tubeless and not tubular right?



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