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[email protected] September 2nd 04 06:13 PM
Still Looking for a bike
 

Can anyone say if any of these bikes are any good. They sell at
auction for 40-50 pounds. Sorry about the caps (cut and paste job).


1V A CLAUD BUTLER GATE CRASHER DOWNHILL
ALLOY GENTS FULL SUSPENSION MOUNTAIN BIKE, Fr AND Rr DISC BRAKES, 24
SPEED STi SHIMANO GEARS, FRONT CBR TRIPLE CLAMP SUSPENSION FORKS,
VUELTA AIRLINE QUICK RELEASE ALLOY WHEELS, DOWNHILL SADDLE IN BRUSHED
ALLOY.



2V A CLAUD BUTLER SUPER MOTO DOWNHILL
ALLOY GENTS FULL SUSPENSION MOUNTAIN BIKE, FRONT DISC BRAKE, 24 SPEED
SHIMANO GEARS, FRONT CBR TRIPLE CLAMP SUSPENSION FORKS, VUELTA AIRLINE
QUICK RELEASE ALLOY WHEELS, DOWNHILL SADDLE IN BRUSHED ALLOY.



3V CLAUD BUTLER SAVAGE/MADDOG DH ALLOY
GENTS FULL SUSPENSION MOUNTAIN BIKE. WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO STI GEARS,
FRONT ZOOM TRIPLE CLAMP SUSPENSION FORKS, QUICK RELEASE ALLOY WHEELS
IN BLACK AND SILVER

4V CLAUD BUTLER SAVAGE/ MADDOG DH ALLOY
GENTS FULL SUSPENSION MOUNTAIN BIKE. WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO STi GEARS,
FRONT ZOOM TRIPLE CLAMP SUSPENSION FORKS, QUICK RELEASE ALLOY WHEELS.
IN BLACK AND SILVER

5V CLAUD BUTLER SAVAGE/ MADDOG DH ALLOY
GENTS FULL SUSPENSION MOUNTAIN BIKE. WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO STi GEARS,
FRONT ZOOM TRIPLE CLAMP SUSPENSION FORKS, QUICK RELEASE ALLOY WHEELS.
IN BLACK & SILVER.

6V CLAUD BUTLER SAVAGE/ MADDOG DH ALLOY
GENTS FULL SUSPENSION MOUNTAIN BIKE. WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO STi GEARS,
FRONT ZOOM TRIPLE CLAMP SUSPENSION FORKS, QUICK RELEASE ALLOY WHEELS.
IN RED & SILVER

7V CLAUD BUTLER SAVAGE/MADDOG DH ALLOY
GENTS FULL SUSPENSION MOUNTAIN BIKE. WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO STI GEARS,
FRONT ZOOM TRIPLE CLAMP SUSPENSION FORKS, QUICK RELEASE ALLOY WHEELS
IN RED AND SILVER



8V A BOSS REFLEX GENTS FULL SUSPENSION
MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH MONO SWING ARM, WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO GEARS, FRONT
SUSPENSION FORKS AND DISC BRAKE, ALLOY WHEELS IN BLACK AND RED.

9V A BOSS REFLEX GENTS FULL SUSPENSION
MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH MONO SWING ARM, WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO GEARS, FRONT
SUSPENSION FORKS AND DISC BRAKE, ALLOY WHEELS IN BLACK AND RED.

10V A BOSS REFLEX GENTS FULL SUSPENSION
MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH MONO SWING ARM, WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO GEARS, FRONT
SUSPENSION FORKS AND DISC BRAKE, ALLOY WHEELS IN BLACK AND RED.

11V A BOSS REFLEX GENTS FULL SUSPENSION
MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH MONO SWING ARM, WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO GEARS, FRONT
SUSPENSION FORKS AND DISC BRAKE, ALLOY WHEELS IN BLACK AND RED.



12V A BOSS REFLEX GENTS FULL SUSPENSION
MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH MONO SWING ARM, WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO GEARS, FRONT
SUSPENSION FORKS AND DISC BRAKE, ALLOY WHEELS IN SILVER/RED



13V A BOSS REFLEX GENTS FULL SUSPENSION
MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH MONO SWING ARM, WITH 21 SPEED SHIMANO GEARS, FRONT
SUSPENSION FORKS, ALLOY WHEELS IN SILVER/RED



14V A BRITISH EAGLE GENTS FULL
SUSPENSION MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH 18 SPEED SHIMANO GEARS ALLOY WHEELS AND
V BRAKES FINISHED IN SILVER.

15V A BRITISH EAGLE GENTS FULL
SUSPENSION MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH 18 SPEED SHIMANO GEARS ALLOY WHEELS AND
V BRAKES FINISHED IN SILVER.



16V A FALCON TRAIL BREAKER FULL
SUSPENSION GENTS MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH ALLOY WHEELS AND 18 SPEED SHIMANO
GEARS IN BLUE AND SILVER.

17V A FALCON TRAIL BREAKER FULL
SUSPENSION GENTS MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH ALLOY WHEELS AND 18 SPEED SHIMANO
GEARS IN BLUE AND SILVER.

18V A FALCON TRAIL BREAKER FULL
SUSPENSION GENTS MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH ALLOY WHEELS AND 18 SPEED SHIMANO
GEARS IN BLUE AND SILVER.

19V A FALCON TRAIL BREAKER FULL
SUSPENSION GENTS MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH ALLOY WHEELS AND 18 SPEED SHIMANO
GEARS IN BLUE AND SILVER.

20V A FALCON TRAIL BREAKER FULL
SUSPENSION GENTS MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH ALLOY WHEELS AND 18 SPEED SHIMANO
GEARS IN BLUE AND SILVER.

21V A FALCON TRAIL BREAKER FULL
SUSPENSION GENTS MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH ALLOY WHEELS AND 18 SPEED SHIMANO
GEARS IN BLUE AND SILVER.

22V A FALCON TRAIL BREAKER FULL
SUSPENSION GENTS MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH ALLOY WHEELS AND 18 SPEED SHIMANO
GEARS IN BLUE AND SILVER.

23V A FALCON TRAIL BREAKER FULL
SUSPENSION GENTS MOUNTAIN BIKE WITH ALLOY WHEELS AND 18 SPEED SHIMANO
GEARS IN BLUE AND SILVER.



24V A PEUGEOT 21 SPEED GENTS MOUNTAIN
BIKE WITH ALLOY WHEELS AND SHIMANO GS GEARS.



25V AN APOLLO GENTS MANIC MOUNTAIN BIKE
WITH 18 SPEED SHIMANO GEARS AND ALLOY WHEELS.



26V A RALEIGH MONSOON GIRLS MOUNTAIN
BIKE WITH 18 SHIMANO GEARS.



27V AN APOLLO FREESTYLE BMX



28V A G5 CYCLE SAFETY HELMET IN STARS
AND STRIPES DESIGN. AS NEW AND BOXED (20 DITTO)



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



29V UNIVERSAL RAPID REACTOR GENTS
MOUNTAIN CYCLE IN BLACK

30V A RUDGE BI-FRAME MONTAGUE PATENTED
DESIGN FOLDING GENTS MOUNTAIN CYCLE IN BLUE.

31V A SHOGUN TRAIL BREAKER GENTS
MOUNTAIN CYCLE IN BLACK.

Ambrose Nankivell September 2nd 04 06:44 PM
writes:

Can anyone say if any of these bikes are any good. They sell at
auction for 40-50 pounds. Sorry about the caps (cut and paste job).

24V A Peugeot 21 speed gents mountain bike with alloy wheels and
Shimano GS gears.

25v An Apollo gents Manic mountain bike with 18 speed Shimano gears
and alloy wheels.

29V Universal Rapid Reactor gents mountain cycle in black

31V A Shogun Trail Breaker gents mountain cycle in black.


These four don't have suspension and are thus worth the effort. Avoid
all the others like the plague.

A

Simon Brooke September 2nd 04 07:08 PM
in message ,
') wrote:


Can anyone say if any of these bikes are any good. They sell at
auction for 40-50 pounds. Sorry about the caps (cut and paste job).

I haven't looked through this list in detail but you know the answer
yourself. If they were any good at all they would not sell at auction
for £50. And seeing some of these are Apollos - Halfords own brand -
they are presumably bikes which Halfords found they just could not
shift at any price.

They probably aren't even worth melting down for scrap.

--
 (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; Women are from Venus. Men are from Mars. Lusers are from Uranus.

[email protected] September 2nd 04 07:13 PM
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 18:08:20 GMT, Simon Brooke
wrote:

in message ,
') wrote:


Can anyone say if any of these bikes are any good. They sell at
auction for 40-50 pounds. Sorry about the caps (cut and paste job).

I haven't looked through this list in detail but you know the answer
yourself. If they were any good at all they would not sell at auction
for £50. And seeing some of these are Apollos - Halfords own brand -
they are presumably bikes which Halfords found they just could not
shift at any price.

They probably aren't even worth melting down for scrap.

Funny you should say that because i have seen wheels and tyres sell
for 20-30 a pair on ebay. You could also sell the seats , pedals etc.
They may be worth more as spares than intact.

[email protected] September 2nd 04 07:14 PM
On 02 Sep 2004 18:44:23 +0100, Ambrose Nankivell
wrote:

writes:

Can anyone say if any of these bikes are any good. They sell at
auction for 40-50 pounds. Sorry about the caps (cut and paste job).

24V A Peugeot 21 speed gents mountain bike with alloy wheels and
Shimano GS gears.

25v An Apollo gents Manic mountain bike with 18 speed Shimano gears
and alloy wheels.

29V Universal Rapid Reactor gents mountain cycle in black

31V A Shogun Trail Breaker gents mountain cycle in black.


These four don't have suspension and are thus worth the effort. Avoid
all the others like the plague.

thanks, what is so bad about suspension on a bike ?

Ambrose Nankivell September 2nd 04 07:35 PM
writes:

On 02 Sep 2004 18:44:23 +0100, Ambrose Nankivell
wrote:

writes:

Can anyone say if any of these bikes are any good. They sell at
auction for 40-50 pounds. Sorry about the caps (cut and paste job).

24V A Peugeot 21 speed gents mountain bike with alloy wheels and
Shimano GS gears.

25v An Apollo gents Manic mountain bike with 18 speed Shimano gears
and alloy wheels.

29V Universal Rapid Reactor gents mountain cycle in black

31V A Shogun Trail Breaker gents mountain cycle in black.


These four don't have suspension and are thus worth the effort. Avoid
all the others like the plague.

thanks, what is so bad about suspension on a bike ?

Nothing, as long as it is designed with proper damping and machined to
very fine tolerances. Such constraints make it cost at least £400 for
the frame.

On cheap bikes, it still costs a fair bit of extra money, so the rest
of the bike's worse, but it bounces up and down when you ride it, and
then after it's worn a bit after about 200 miles use, it also sways
from side to side. This makes the bike hard to control. It also adds
lots of weight which makes the bike less responsive to ride
(particularly with the lack of control) and more work. If you buy one
of the rigid bikes, replacing the tyres is all you need to do to make
an acceptable bike for getting about on the road. Once you put
mudguards and a rack and lights on, then you've got something that's
useful for travelling most of the year. Total cost of upgrades, say
£60 if you're fortunate.

However, at this price, the brakes will be hard to adjust, and the
gears will stop shifting easily fairly quickly, also being hard to
adjust, too. Maintenance will easily cost £20 to sort them out, but
replacement bits can be bought £10 or £20 at a time and will improve
performance dramatically.

A

[email protected] September 2nd 04 07:36 PM
On 02 Sep 2004 19:35:02 +0100, Ambrose Nankivell
wrote:

writes:

On 02 Sep 2004 18:44:23 +0100, Ambrose Nankivell
wrote:

writes:

Can anyone say if any of these bikes are any good. They sell at
auction for 40-50 pounds. Sorry about the caps (cut and paste job).

24V A Peugeot 21 speed gents mountain bike with alloy wheels and
Shimano GS gears.

25v An Apollo gents Manic mountain bike with 18 speed Shimano gears
and alloy wheels.

29V Universal Rapid Reactor gents mountain cycle in black

31V A Shogun Trail Breaker gents mountain cycle in black.


These four don't have suspension and are thus worth the effort. Avoid
all the others like the plague.

thanks, what is so bad about suspension on a bike ?

Nothing, as long as it is designed with proper damping and machined to
very fine tolerances. Such constraints make it cost at least £400 for
the frame.

snip helpful comments

thanks for that. I may just buy on of those four and make the
adjustments you recommend. Let you know how it goes.

Ambrose Nankivell September 2nd 04 07:40 PM
writes:

On 02 Sep 2004 19:35:02 +0100, Ambrose Nankivell
wrote:

writes:

On 02 Sep 2004 18:44:23 +0100, Ambrose Nankivell
wrote:

writes:

Can anyone say if any of these bikes are any good. They sell at
auction for 40-50 pounds. Sorry about the caps (cut and paste job).

24V A Peugeot 21 speed gents mountain bike with alloy wheels and
Shimano GS gears.

25v An Apollo gents Manic mountain bike with 18 speed Shimano gears
and alloy wheels.

29V Universal Rapid Reactor gents mountain cycle in black

31V A Shogun Trail Breaker gents mountain cycle in black.


These four don't have suspension and are thus worth the effort. Avoid
all the others like the plague.

thanks, what is so bad about suspension on a bike ?

Nothing, as long as it is designed with proper damping and machined to
very fine tolerances. Such constraints make it cost at least £400 for
the frame.

snip helpful comments

thanks for that. I may just buy on of those four and make the
adjustments you recommend. Let you know how it goes.

Glad to be of service.

A

Paul Rudin September 2nd 04 08:07 PM
writes:

Can anyone say if any of these bikes are any good. They sell at
auction for 40-50 pounds. Sorry about the caps (cut and paste job).

M-x capitalize-region yields:



1v A Claud Butler Gate Crasher Downhill
Alloy Gents Full Suspension Mountain Bike, Fr And Rr Disc Brakes, 24
Speed Sti Shimano Gears, Front Cbr Triple Clamp Suspension Forks,
Vuelta Airline Quick Release Alloy Wheels, Downhill Saddle In Brushed
Alloy.



2v A Claud Butler Super Moto Downhill
Alloy Gents Full Suspension Mountain Bike, Front Disc Brake, 24 Speed
Shimano Gears, Front Cbr Triple Clamp Suspension Forks, Vuelta Airline
Quick Release Alloy Wheels, Downhill Saddle In Brushed Alloy.



3v Claud Butler Savage/Maddog Dh Alloy
Gents Full Suspension Mountain Bike. With 21 Speed Shimano Sti Gears,
Front Zoom Triple Clamp Suspension Forks, Quick Release Alloy Wheels
In Black And Silver

4v Claud Butler Savage/ Maddog Dh Alloy
Gents Full Suspension Mountain Bike. With 21 Speed Shimano Sti Gears,
Front Zoom Triple Clamp Suspension Forks, Quick Release Alloy Wheels.
In Black And Silver

5v Claud Butler Savage/ Maddog Dh Alloy
Gents Full Suspension Mountain Bike. With 21 Speed Shimano Sti Gears,
Front Zoom Triple Clamp Suspension Forks, Quick Release Alloy Wheels.
In Black & Silver.

6v Claud Butler Savage/ Maddog Dh Alloy
Gents Full Suspension Mountain Bike. With 21 Speed Shimano Sti Gears,
Front Zoom Triple Clamp Suspension Forks, Quick Release Alloy Wheels.
In Red & Silver

7v Claud Butler Savage/Maddog Dh Alloy
Gents Full Suspension Mountain Bike. With 21 Speed Shimano Sti Gears,
Front Zoom Triple Clamp Suspension Forks, Quick Release Alloy Wheels
In Red And Silver



8v A Boss Reflex Gents Full Suspension
Mountain Bike With Mono Swing Arm, With 21 Speed Shimano Gears, Front
Suspension Forks And Disc Brake, Alloy Wheels In Black And Red.

9v A Boss Reflex Gents Full Suspension
Mountain Bike With Mono Swing Arm, With 21 Speed Shimano Gears, Front
Suspension Forks And Disc Brake, Alloy Wheels In Black And Red.

10v A Boss Reflex Gents Full Suspension
Mountain Bike With Mono Swing Arm, With 21 Speed Shimano Gears, Front
Suspension Forks And Disc Brake, Alloy Wheels In Black And Red.

11v A Boss Reflex Gents Full Suspension
Mountain Bike With Mono Swing Arm, With 21 Speed Shimano Gears, Front
Suspension Forks And Disc Brake, Alloy Wheels In Black And Red.



12v A Boss Reflex Gents Full Suspension
Mountain Bike With Mono Swing Arm, With 21 Speed Shimano Gears, Front
Suspension Forks And Disc Brake, Alloy Wheels In Silver/Red



13v A Boss Reflex Gents Full Suspension
Mountain Bike With Mono Swing Arm, With 21 Speed Shimano Gears, Front
Suspension Forks, Alloy Wheels In Silver/Red



14v A British Eagle Gents Full
Suspension Mountain Bike With 18 Speed Shimano Gears Alloy Wheels And
V Brakes Finished In Silver.

15v A British Eagle Gents Full
Suspension Mountain Bike With 18 Speed Shimano Gears Alloy Wheels And
V Brakes Finished In Silver.



16v A Falcon Trail Breaker Full
Suspension Gents Mountain Bike With Alloy Wheels And 18 Speed Shimano
Gears In Blue And Silver.

17v A Falcon Trail Breaker Full
Suspension Gents Mountain Bike With Alloy Wheels And 18 Speed Shimano
Gears In Blue And Silver.

18v A Falcon Trail Breaker Full
Suspension Gents Mountain Bike With Alloy Wheels And 18 Speed Shimano
Gears In Blue And Silver.

19v A Falcon Trail Breaker Full
Suspension Gents Mountain Bike With Alloy Wheels And 18 Speed Shimano
Gears In Blue And Silver.

20v A Falcon Trail Breaker Full
Suspension Gents Mountain Bike With Alloy Wheels And 18 Speed Shimano
Gears In Blue And Silver.

21v A Falcon Trail Breaker Full
Suspension Gents Mountain Bike With Alloy Wheels And 18 Speed Shimano
Gears In Blue And Silver.

22v A Falcon Trail Breaker Full
Suspension Gents Mountain Bike With Alloy Wheels And 18 Speed Shimano
Gears In Blue And Silver.

23v A Falcon Trail Breaker Full
Suspension Gents Mountain Bike With Alloy Wheels And 18 Speed Shimano
Gears In Blue And Silver.



24v A Peugeot 21 Speed Gents Mountain
Bike With Alloy Wheels And Shimano Gs Gears.



25v An Apollo Gents Manic Mountain Bike
With 18 Speed Shimano Gears And Alloy Wheels.



26v A Raleigh Monsoon Girls Mountain
Bike With 18 Shimano Gears.



27v An Apollo Freestyle Bmx



28v A G5 Cycle Safety Helmet In Stars
And Stripes Design. As New And Boxed (20 Ditto)



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



29v Universal Rapid Reactor Gents
Mountain Cycle In Black

30v A Rudge Bi-Frame Montague Patented
Design Folding Gents Mountain Cycle In Blue.

31v A Shogun Trail Breaker Gents
Mountain Cycle In Black.

[email protected] September 2nd 04 08:36 PM
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:07:51 GMT, Paul Rudin
wrote:

writes:

Can anyone say if any of these bikes are any good. They sell at
auction for 40-50 pounds. Sorry about the caps (cut and paste job).

M-x capitalize-region yields:


You're a genius. Does it make them any better BiKeS ?


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