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https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/

Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

ride faster!
 

On Wednesday, 16 October 2019 16:20:38 UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/

Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

He is really lucky. Just goes to show that it can be quite dangerous riding counter to the flow of traffic and riding on the sidewalk whilst doing so. I hope both the bicyclist and the trucker are okay.

Cheers

ride faster!
 

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:20:40 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/

Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed.

Are you serious? The cyclist rode directly out in front of a moving
truck waving his arm apparently to get the truck to stop.

As I previously wrote, the first safety rule should be "Don't be a
damned fool" which might also be stated as "Don't do damned fool
things".

--
cheers,

John B.

ride faster!
 

On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 4:00:53 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:20:40 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/

Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed.

Are you serious? The cyclist rode directly out in front of a moving
truck waving his arm apparently to get the truck to stop.

As I previously wrote, the first safety rule should be "Don't be a
damned fool" which might also be stated as "Don't do damned fool
things".

--
cheers,

John B.

This is America John and as usual you show that you don't grasp the driving laws.

1. He was on the sidewalk AND HAD RIGHT OF WAY OVER ANYONE EXITING A DRIVEWAY. 2. He HAD TO BE APPROACHING when that Truck started to turn out towards the driveway and the trucker missed him completely. What if he were a pedestrian?
3. The Trucker did not stop which is a felony.

ride faster!
 

On 10/16/2019 4:20 PM, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/

Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed.

That's a perfect illustration of the dangers of sidewalk riding. And
it's why people's "feelings" of safety are often nonsense. The rider
doubtlessly thought he was safer riding that way. He was very wrong.

And the precise same danger applies to wrong-way (or bi-directional)
bike lanes, even if they claim to be "protected." It's one of the
reasons the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found them to cause
over 11 times as many car-bike crashes.

"Protected" indeed!


--
- Frank Krygowski

ride faster!
 

On 10/16/2019 7:35 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 4:00:53 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:20:40 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/

Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed.

Are you serious? The cyclist rode directly out in front of a moving
truck waving his arm apparently to get the truck to stop.

As I previously wrote, the first safety rule should be "Don't be a
damned fool" which might also be stated as "Don't do damned fool
things".

--
cheers,

John B.

This is America John and as usual you show that you don't grasp the driving laws.

1. He was on the sidewalk AND HAD RIGHT OF WAY OVER ANYONE EXITING A DRIVEWAY. 2. He HAD TO BE APPROACHING when that Truck started to turn out towards the driveway and the trucker missed him completely. What if he were a pedestrian?
3. The Trucker did not stop which is a felony.

I am not an expert on this specific incident or area but UVC
norms allow bicycles on sidewalks in R zoning then prohibit
same in commercial zoning. That's not an unreasonable
distinction.

Motor vehicles have to stop before crossing a sidewalk and
this truck did not. I'm reasonably certain it's a traffic
infraction not a felony but likely adds another layer to all
the various attorneys' arguments about liability.

Leaving the scene is indeed a felony in most places, as is
failure to render aid, those being clearer arguments IMHO.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

ride faster!
 

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 17:35:13 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 4:00:53 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:20:40 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/

Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed.

Are you serious? The cyclist rode directly out in front of a moving
truck waving his arm apparently to get the truck to stop.

As I previously wrote, the first safety rule should be "Don't be a
damned fool" which might also be stated as "Don't do damned fool
things".

--
cheers,

John B.

This is America John and as usual you show that you don't grasp the driving laws.

1. He was on the sidewalk AND HAD RIGHT OF WAY OVER ANYONE EXITING A DRIVEWAY. 2. He HAD TO BE APPROACHING when that Truck started to turn out towards the driveway and the trucker missed him completely. What if he were a pedestrian?
3. The Trucker did not stop which is a felony.

Are you serious? Big truck, at some speed, and you cycle right out in
front of him, waving your hand.... hoping that he will stop? That is
a level of stupidity that is almost unbelievable.

I might add that in addition to stating that pedestrians, i.e. those
using a sidewalk do have the right of way, the California Highway code
also says that "Pedestrians do have a duty to watch out for their own
safety, not to cross in a hazardous manner".

Which rather reinforces my statement above.
--
cheers,

John B.

ride faster!
 

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 20:46:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/16/2019 4:20 PM, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/

Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed.

That's a perfect illustration of the dangers of sidewalk riding. And
it's why people's "feelings" of safety are often nonsense. The rider
doubtlessly thought he was safer riding that way. He was very wrong.

And the precise same danger applies to wrong-way (or bi-directional)
bike lanes, even if they claim to be "protected." It's one of the
reasons the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found them to cause
over 11 times as many car-bike crashes.

"Protected" indeed!

There is some evidence that people wearing protective gear may take
more chances. Risk compensation, it is called and innumerable studies
have shown that those wearing some sort of safety gear took more
chances.

It seems logical to assume that those riding in "protected" bicycle
lanes will take chances that someone simply riding on the road will
not take.
--
cheers,

John B.

ride faster!
 

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 20:07:11 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 10/16/2019 7:35 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 4:00:53 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:20:40 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/

Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed.

Are you serious? The cyclist rode directly out in front of a moving
truck waving his arm apparently to get the truck to stop.

As I previously wrote, the first safety rule should be "Don't be a
damned fool" which might also be stated as "Don't do damned fool
things".

--
cheers,

John B.

This is America John and as usual you show that you don't grasp the driving laws.

1. He was on the sidewalk AND HAD RIGHT OF WAY OVER ANYONE EXITING A DRIVEWAY. 2. He HAD TO BE APPROACHING when that Truck started to turn out towards the driveway and the trucker missed him completely. What if he were a pedestrian?
3. The Trucker did not stop which is a felony.

I am not an expert on this specific incident or area but UVC
norms allow bicycles on sidewalks in R zoning then prohibit
same in commercial zoning. That's not an unreasonable
distinction.

Motor vehicles have to stop before crossing a sidewalk and
this truck did not. I'm reasonably certain it's a traffic
infraction not a felony but likely adds another layer to all
the various attorneys' arguments about liability.

Leaving the scene is indeed a felony in most places, as is
failure to render aid, those being clearer arguments IMHO.

I believe that y'all may be missing the point. If the truck stops then
wonderful, wonderful. If the truck doesn't stop than you may very well
be dead.

The alternate is, of course, to stop and let the Big Mother cross the
sidewalk just as he damn well pleases. Whereupon, you will of course
be alive but have lost an unimaginable amount of prestige and
undoubtedly people all over town will be pointing their finger and
shouting "That's the candy ass that stopped for the truck".
--
cheers,

John B.

ride faster!
 

On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 1:20:38 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/video/cyclist-t-b...y-to-be-alive/

Had he been just a bit slower, he would have been killed.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Thanks for posting this, Andrew. Whew!
Even if he'd glanced to his right the driver still might not have seen the bike.

This era of the ubiquitous camera is sure something. (The panopticon.)

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