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Truepurple November 15th 03 09:41 AM

Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights
 
Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.

Turn signal lights you can use instead of sticking your arm out. Im
not as concerned about looking goofy as much as the difficulty and
risk associated with taking ones hands off the bar and sticking
there arm out.

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability

Ive found indications of each my search but dont know enough of what
key words to use to find them for sale anywhere.



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Truepurple November 15th 03 10:42 AM

Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights
 
Oops, guess I should have put this in the equipment forum



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Mathias Koerber November 15th 03 11:04 AM

Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:31:31 +1050, Truepurple wrote:

Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.


There are brakepads which have a built in LED which lights up when
braking..



Simon Brooke November 15th 03 01:35 PM

Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights
 
Truepurple writes:

Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.


Never seen these. You could fit a microswitch into one or both of your
brake-levers...

Turn signal lights you can use instead of sticking your arm out. Im
not as concerned about looking goofy as much as the difficulty and
risk associated with taking ones hands off the bar and sticking
there arm out.


I've seen these - once - they didn't work very well. But what 'risk'
is there in making a handsignal?

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability


Retro-reflectors in the spokes work extremely well, because the
pattern of movement is extremely distinctive and drivers immediately
recognise a bicycle (reflectors on pedals are good for the same
reason). Sticking extra lights on means more batteries, more weight,
more maintenance and more to go wrong.

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S. Anderson November 15th 03 03:25 PM

Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights
 
"Truepurple" wrote in message
...
Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.

Turn signal lights you can use instead of sticking your arm out. Im
not as concerned about looking goofy as much as the difficulty and
risk associated with taking ones hands off the bar and sticking
there arm out.

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability

Ive found indications of each my search but dont know enough of what
key words to use to find them for sale anywhere.


Canadian Tire here in Canada used to sell these. Unfortuntely, there wasn't
any tricky brake light activation..I think it was manual. Nevertheless, you
DID get turn signals and a brake light with a switch for either handlebar
side. I think both switches together was the brake light or something.
They weren't of the greatest quality, but they worked o.k. Try
www.canadiantire.ca. I have no idea if they still sell them, but it's
something.

Cheers,

Scott..



David L. Johnson November 15th 03 03:58 PM

Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:31:31 +1050, Truepurple wrote:

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.

Something recently advertised were LED lights on the pads. The utility of
this is open to debate.

Turn signal lights you can use instead of sticking your arm out. Im not as
concerned about looking goofy as much as the difficulty and risk
associated with taking ones hands off the bar and sticking there arm

out.

Risk?

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability


Available from Nashbar and other places, road or mountain bars, about $20.
they even have a flash mode which would work as a turn signal, if you
wanted.

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Mathias Koerber November 15th 03 04:13 PM

Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:04:30 +0800, Mathias Koerber wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:31:31 +1050, Truepurple wrote:

Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.


There are brakepads which have a built in LED which lights up when
braking..


found them: Promax Ipad: https://shop.sunrisecyclery.com/item/10319/


Rich Clark November 15th 03 05:31 PM

Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights
 

"Truepurple" wrote in message
...
Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.


Brake lights on cars are effective because drivers are trained to know what
they mean. Nobody would know how to interpret brake lights on a bike. It
would be foolish and dangerous to depend on them to influence the behavior
of following traffic.

Turn signal lights you can use instead of sticking your arm out. Im
not as concerned about looking goofy as much as the difficulty and
risk associated with taking ones hands off the bar and sticking
there arm out.


Same argument as above. If anything, moreso: to the extent that drivers are
trained to interpret blinking lights on bikes, it's to interpret them as
"slow moving traffic," not as a turn signal.

If you can't handle your bike with one hand, practice is indicated.

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability


As someone else noted, reflectors on moving parts are more likely to be
effective for this. The small single-LED lights mentioned in another post
are available, but they aren't very bright -- and in the glare of automobile
headlights, will be washed out completely compared to good reflectors.

If you really want side-mounted lights, you'd do better to get multiple-LED
blinkies and clip them to your clothing or helmet or something facing
sideways.

RichC



Werehatrack November 15th 03 06:30 PM

Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:35:18 GMT, Simon Brooke
may have said:

Truepurple writes:

Im looking for a few different light kinds.

Break lights that come on when you stop on a bike.


Never seen these. You could fit a microswitch into one or both of your
brake-levers...


I saw a kit somewhere, but was not impressed with the setup.

Turn signal lights you can use instead of sticking your arm out. Im
not as concerned about looking goofy as much as the difficulty and
risk associated with taking ones hands off the bar and sticking
there arm out.


I've seen these - once - they didn't work very well. But what 'risk'
is there in making a handsignal?


In traffic around here, you may not get that arm back from a left-turn
arm signal. Still, given the number of things already on the
handlebars of most non-roadie bikes in the area of the grips, mounting
a switch where it would not require taking a hand off the bar might be
a challenge. I can't recall seeing a bicycle in this area with a
functional turn signal setup.

Lights at the end of handle bars for increased side visability


Retro-reflectors in the spokes work extremely well, because the
pattern of movement is extremely distinctive and drivers immediately
recognise a bicycle (reflectors on pedals are good for the same
reason). Sticking extra lights on means more batteries, more weight,
more maintenance and more to go wrong.


Tirefly lights also seem to work well, and are effective from a
considerable angle. I've seen a local night cyclist who had three of
those per wheel. I only saw him in motion, so I don't know how the
two extras were mounted; I presume that one was on the valve stem as
usual. He used three different colors per wheel. This would not have
been a good setup to try to mix with functional brake lights or turn
signals, though.

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Truepurple November 15th 03 09:43 PM

Break lights turn lights and handle bar lights
 
Whats a retro reflector and how does it differ from a regular reflector?

Ive found lights that turn on from the motion of stopping. But I forgot
where I saw the link. Plus it was in euros or something and didn't
include alot of details about how it worked.

Heres something else I found. http://brakelite.fws1.com/page10.html
Which seems pretty interesting but its hard to understand how it would
work from the website or even how much the light would cost.

I found the bike handle plugs but there no good. They each use two
batteries that cost $3 each at walmart yet only last 50 hours. I'm not
about to pay $12 every 50 hours of night riding. I hope I can find a
light that uses better batteries.

I suppose I could attach lights to my clothing or something but that
doesn't seem like it would look as good. Plus on my handbar it would be
the leading edge of my bike which would be more affective then in the
middle on my helm.

Any other leads or tips for solutions to the three things I mentioned
that anyone could offer would be great.



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