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AMuzi April 14th 18 01:42 PM

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Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


Joerg[_2_] April 14th 18 03:55 PM

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On 2018-04-14 05:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821


A few weeks ago I came back down from Camino (California) while hail was
pelting us, big time, in shorts and T-shirt. That's real blecccch,
especially on a road bike with rim brakes. I didn't know this was going
to happen, the weather looked so nice on the way up. Else I'd have used
the MTB.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

[email protected] April 14th 18 06:02 PM

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On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 9:55:31 AM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-14 05:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821


A few weeks ago I came back down from Camino (California) while hail was
pelting us, big time, in shorts and T-shirt. That's real blecccch,
especially on a road bike with rim brakes. I didn't know this was going
to happen, the weather looked so nice on the way up. Else I'd have used
the MTB.

--
Regards, Joerg


Must be tough riders in California. IF I HAD KNOWN it was going to HAIL during my ride, I would not have left the house on any bike. Road or mountain bike. I doubt either has much advantage when getting hailed on.

Joerg[_2_] April 14th 18 07:47 PM

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On 2018-04-14 10:02, wrote:
On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 9:55:31 AM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-14 05:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821




A few weeks ago I came back down from Camino (California) while hail was
pelting us, big time, in shorts and T-shirt. That's real blecccch,
especially on a road bike with rim brakes. I didn't know this was
going to happen, the weather looked so nice on the way up. Else I'd
have used the MTB.

-- Regards, Joerg


Must be tough riders in California. IF I HAD KNOWN it was going to
HAIL during my ride, I would not have left the house on any bike.
Road or mountain bike. I doubt either has much advantage when
getting hailed on.


One the way up there was only one brief hail shower and then bright
sunshine. Who'd-a-thunk it would turn so quickly. Up near Camino we had
a little snack when clouds rolled in fast. Since there is no place to
seek cover we raced it down the hill but got pelted all the way until we
reached an old railroad tunnel. Completely soaked.

Of course, if we hadn't stopped for a beer on the way up we'd have
reached that tunnel in time ...

Tomorrow after church the forecast says rain again. Sometimes I have to
look at the map to see weather we really live in California. If there is
any of this global warming I want my fair share of it!

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Joy Beeson April 14th 18 10:50 PM

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On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:02:52 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Must be tough riders in California. IF I HAD KNOWN it was going to HAIL during my ride, I would not have left the house on any bike. Road or mountain bike. I doubt either has much advantage when getting hailed on.


That reminds me of a group ride I was on way back when. We got
caught in a shower of pellet snow; one guy complained of the noise
the pellets were making an his helmet; another responded "*You're*
complaining? I'm not wearing a helmet!"

Weird what a swiss-cheese memory does. I remember the conversation,
but don't remember getting hit with pellets. I also don't remember
whether that was before or after I started wearing a helmet.

Remember when the Bell Biker was the only hardshell? I once arrived
first at a picnic, put my Bell Biker on a bench, dropped my Cool Gear
gloves into it, and walked away. When I came back for my hat and
gloves, there were a half dozen Bell Bikers on the bench, and each
held a pair of Cool Gear gloves.

That may have been when I started putting return-address stickers
inside my helmets.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

JBeattie April 15th 18 11:51 PM

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On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-14 05:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821


A few weeks ago I came back down from Camino (California) while hail was
pelting us, big time, in shorts and T-shirt. That's real blecccch,
especially on a road bike with rim brakes. I didn't know this was going
to happen, the weather looked so nice on the way up. Else I'd have used
the MTB.


Road tires generally cut through new hail and snow unless it really accumulates fast. I've never had problems with rim brakes riding in hail. I just don't like it because it hurts my face. The conditions that cause hail usually don't last for very long, and the upside is that it bounces off you -- unlike rain. If its Old Testament apocalyptic hail, I go hide under an overhang until it stops.

The ride today was 2.5 hours in steady, moderate and unseasonably cold rain.. I was recovering from a week off my bike due to a virus that made me feel like sh** and caused me to break out in red welts all over my arms and legs (which was alarming). The welts are slowly reducing. I was riding with my son who is recovering from two fractured and surgically repaired ankles from his ski-tastrophy. He was all trussed up in ankle splints. We were the two-man sad parade. The really sad part is that he can still out-sprint me after more than two months in a wheel chair and with enough hardware in his ankles to stock a Home Depot. To be fair, though, he has been doing all sorts of stationary bike power training for the last month, and I was sick (more excuses to come).

We were both on discs, and again, stopping in wet weather is more about traction than braking. I really had to moderate my rear braking because it is really easy to fish-tail when descending slick wet pavement. Unlike you, we were appropriately dressed in rain gear, although I let my son use my favorite Showers Pass jacket. I was in a Castelli Gabba rain jersey and vest, which soaked through on the arms and shoulders. The sacrifices I make as a parent! The good part is that he gets pro deals on Showers Pass, so he's going to get his own rain jacket soon. Mine is now off limits.


-- Jay Beattie.




AMuzi April 16th 18 12:22 AM

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On 4/15/2018 5:51 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-14 05:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821


A few weeks ago I came back down from Camino (California) while hail was
pelting us, big time, in shorts and T-shirt. That's real blecccch,
especially on a road bike with rim brakes. I didn't know this was going
to happen, the weather looked so nice on the way up. Else I'd have used
the MTB.


Road tires generally cut through new hail and snow unless it really accumulates fast. I've never had problems with rim brakes riding in hail. I just don't like it because it hurts my face. The conditions that cause hail usually don't last for very long, and the upside is that it bounces off you -- unlike rain. If its Old Testament apocalyptic hail, I go hide under an overhang until it stops.

The ride today was 2.5 hours in steady, moderate and unseasonably cold rain. I was recovering from a week off my bike due to a virus that made me feel like sh** and caused me to break out in red welts all over my arms and legs (which was alarming). The welts are slowly reducing. I was riding with my son who is recovering from two fractured and surgically repaired ankles from his ski-tastrophy. He was all trussed up in ankle splints. We were the two-man sad parade. The really sad part is that he can still out-sprint me after more than two months in a wheel chair and with enough hardware in his ankles to stock a Home Depot. To be fair, though, he has been doing all sorts of stationary bike power training for the last month, and I was sick (more excuses to come).

We were both on discs, and again, stopping in wet weather is more about traction than braking. I really had to moderate my rear braking because it is really easy to fish-tail when descending slick wet pavement. Unlike you, we were appropriately dressed in rain gear, although I let my son use my favorite Showers Pass jacket. I was in a Castelli Gabba rain jersey and vest, which soaked through on the arms and shoulders. The sacrifices I make as a parent! The good part is that he gets pro deals on Showers Pass, so he's going to get his own rain jacket soon. Mine is now off limits.



Sounds like our mid-April weekend except there's serious
wind in the Midwest:

http://www.wnem.com/story/37959863/m...-to-high-winds

Spring starts in June,right?

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971



James[_8_] April 16th 18 05:02 AM

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On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821


Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.

--
JS Downunder

James[_8_] April 16th 18 05:05 AM

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On 16/04/18 08:51, jbeattie wrote:


Road tires generally cut through new hail and snow unless it really
accumulates fast. I've never had problems with rim brakes riding in
hail. I just don't like it because it hurts my face. The conditions
that cause hail usually don't last for very long, and the upside is
that it bounces off you -- unlike rain. If its Old Testament
apocalyptic hail, I go hide under an overhang until it stops.



I've been caught out in apocalyptic hail, with no overhang for many
kilometres. It doesn't just hurt your face. It hurts anywhere it hits.
Shoulders, back, legs, face, arms, hands, etc.

--
JS

Duane[_4_] April 16th 18 12:10 PM

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James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821



Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)

Snow, sleet, hail, freezing rain and rain here in the last 24 hours. And
45k winds to churn things up.
We are also waiting for spring in June. But we’re taking this wait and see
approach...

--
duane

Joerg[_2_] April 16th 18 03:07 PM

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On 2018-04-15 21:05, James wrote:
On 16/04/18 08:51, jbeattie wrote:


Road tires generally cut through new hail and snow unless it really
accumulates fast. I've never had problems with rim brakes riding in
hail. I just don't like it because it hurts my face. The conditions
that cause hail usually don't last for very long, and the upside is
that it bounces off you -- unlike rain. If its Old Testament
apocalyptic hail, I go hide under an overhang until it stops.



I've been caught out in apocalyptic hail, with no overhang for many
kilometres. It doesn't just hurt your face. It hurts anywhere it hits.
Shoulders, back, legs, face, arms, hands, etc.


The worst is that it accumulate in all those diagonal air holes of the
helmet and almost gives a brain freeze. Note to self: Carry an oversized
shower cap in the tool kit :-)

The last hail wasn't apocalyptic, no golf-ball sized ice chunks.
However, it was coming down like someone had opened an infinitely large
ice chest up there and no useful overhang for miles until we got to an
old railroad tunnel.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

JBeattie April 16th 18 07:01 PM

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On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:10:46 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821



Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)

Snow, sleet, hail, freezing rain and rain here in the last 24 hours. And
45k winds to churn things up.
We are also waiting for spring in June. But we’re taking this wait and see
approach...


It's not so bad here. The people in Minneapolis mock us -- as they should: https://blogs.mprnews.org/statewide/...o-bad-weather/

Rain and even light snow is no big deal if you're dressed right. The second I feel freezing rain, I turn around and go home. Even with studs, freezing rain and sheet ice is a no-go. Apart from crashing, it is also the worst possible riding condition -- freezing and wet.

The deal is that no rain gear keeps you dry forever. You will soak through eventually, and then its a matter of whether you can stay warm. In freezing and near freezing rain, I'm miserable after soak-through even with poly pro, wool (name the magical fabric). Throw in a descent in freezing/near-freezing rain, and I go hypothermic. I did a day-long ride in near freezing rain with snow at the top of a climb (Larch Mountain). Climbing was easy because I was generating heat, but the 14 mile descent about killed me. I was shivering so hard I could barely hold my bars. I tried to channel Andy Hampsten, but it didn't work. https://tinyurl.com/yd53bgul


-- Jay Beattie.











Duane[_2_] April 16th 18 07:49 PM

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On 16/04/2018 2:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:10:46 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821



Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)

Snow, sleet, hail, freezing rain and rain here in the last 24 hours. And
45k winds to churn things up.
We are also waiting for spring in June. But we’re taking this wait and see
approach...


It's not so bad here. The people in Minneapolis mock us -- as they should: https://blogs.mprnews.org/statewide/...o-bad-weather/


I've been in Quebec for a long time now but I remember going for
training in Minneapolis/St. Paul. I think that it's a close call which
place is the coldest I've been between here and there.

Rain and even light snow is no big deal if you're dressed right. The second I feel freezing rain, I turn around and go home. Even with studs, freezing rain and sheet ice is a no-go. Apart from crashing, it is also the worst possible riding condition -- freezing and wet.

The deal is that no rain gear keeps you dry forever. You will soak through eventually, and then its a matter of whether you can stay warm. In freezing and near freezing rain, I'm miserable after soak-through even with poly pro, wool (name the magical fabric). Throw in a descent in freezing/near-freezing rain, and I go hypothermic. I did a day-long ride in near freezing rain with snow at the top of a climb (Larch Mountain). Climbing was easy because I was generating heat, but the 14 mile descent about killed me. I was shivering so hard I could barely hold my bars. I tried to channel Andy Hampsten, but it didn't work. https://tinyurl.com/yd53bgul


Last race I did was in the hills north of here at Park Mauricie. 105km
with 1500 meters. The first half was pouring cold rain where you went
between freezing on the descents and sweating on the climbs. I remember
my eyes were burning on a climb when the rain washed sweat into them.

About the best you can do is to find something light enough to keep you
relatively warm so that when it stops you can pack it up easily.

Frank Krygowski[_4_] April 16th 18 09:54 PM

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On 4/16/2018 2:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
Rain and even light snow is no big deal if you're dressed right.


I guess I've never figured out how to dress right.

I took a short ride yesterday to burn off IRS frustration. About 8 miles
from home the rain hit. Rain cape and street clothes worked poorly,
partly because I forgot my mudflap. But at least my frustration had a
target other than the IRS.

I did a day-long ride in near freezing rain with snow at the top of a climb (Larch Mountain). Climbing was easy because I was generating heat, but the 14 mile descent about killed me. I was shivering so hard I could barely hold my bars. I tried to channel Andy Hampsten, but it didn't work. https://tinyurl.com/yd53bgul


Did you have goggles like his? It's all about the goggles.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Joerg[_2_] April 16th 18 11:19 PM

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On 2018-04-16 11:49, Duane wrote:
On 16/04/2018 2:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:10:46 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821




Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)

Snow, sleet, hail, freezing rain and rain here in the last 24
hours. And
45k winds to churn things up.
We are also waiting for spring in June. But we’re taking this wait
and see
approach...


It's not so bad here. The people in Minneapolis mock us -- as they
should:
https://blogs.mprnews.org/statewide/...o-bad-weather/



I've been in Quebec for a long time now but I remember going for
training in Minneapolis/St. Paul. I think that it's a close call which
place is the coldest I've been between here and there.

Rain and even light snow is no big deal if you're dressed right. The
second I feel freezing rain, I turn around and go home. Even with
studs, freezing rain and sheet ice is a no-go. Apart from crashing, it
is also the worst possible riding condition -- freezing and wet.

The deal is that no rain gear keeps you dry forever. You will soak
through eventually, and then its a matter of whether you can stay
warm. In freezing and near freezing rain, I'm miserable after
soak-through even with poly pro, wool (name the magical fabric). Throw
in a descent in freezing/near-freezing rain, and I go hypothermic. I
did a day-long ride in near freezing rain with snow at the top of a
climb (Larch Mountain). Climbing was easy because I was generating
heat, but the 14 mile descent about killed me. I was shivering so hard
I could barely hold my bars. I tried to channel Andy Hampsten, but it
didn't work. https://tinyurl.com/yd53bgul


Last race I did was in the hills north of here at Park Mauricie. 105km
with 1500 meters. The first half was pouring cold rain where you went
between freezing on the descents and sweating on the climbs. I remember
my eyes were burning on a climb when the rain washed sweat into them.


That is how I learned that I shall wear my head sweat band also in
winter weather. No more sweat washing down into the eyes. It's good
policy to carry two of those for swapping when soaked through. A sweat
band airing out under the saddle isn't a pretty sight but sure beats
burning eyes.


About the best you can do is to find something light enough to keep you
relatively warm so that when it stops you can pack it up easily.



A very thin tight rain coat would be nice, one that can be rolled up
into a very small ball when not in use.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Andre Jute[_2_] April 17th 18 12:52 AM

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On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 11:51:03 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
... we were appropriately dressed in rain gear, although I let my son use my favorite Showers Pass jacket. I was in a Castelli Gabba rain jersey and vest, which soaked through on the arms and shoulders. The sacrifices I make as a parent! The good part is that he gets pro deals on Showers Pass, so he's going to get his own rain jacket soon. Mine is now off limits.


Good luck with that.

AJ

JBeattie April 17th 18 01:57 AM

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On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:52:18 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 11:51:03 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
... we were appropriately dressed in rain gear, although I let my son use my favorite Showers Pass jacket. I was in a Castelli Gabba rain jersey and vest, which soaked through on the arms and shoulders. The sacrifices I make as a parent! The good part is that he gets pro deals on Showers Pass, so he's going to get his own rain jacket soon. Mine is now off limits.


Good luck with that.


This time, wishful thinking worked. My son works he https://stagescycling.com/us/ It is .9 mile from he https://www.showerspass.com/ He's picking up his jacket today, direct from the maker. I expect him to be modeling it when I get home along with whatever other new bicycle swag he's acquired today. He's going nuts with all the pro deals. It's time for an intervention -- after he gets me some Conti 4Seasons (my one splurge).

-- Jay Beattie.

JBeattie April 17th 18 01:59 AM

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On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 3:19:46 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-16 11:49, Duane wrote:
On 16/04/2018 2:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:10:46 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821




Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)

Snow, sleet, hail, freezing rain and rain here in the last 24
hours. And
45k winds to churn things up.
We are also waiting for spring in June. But we’re taking this wait
and see
approach...

It's not so bad here. The people in Minneapolis mock us -- as they
should:
https://blogs.mprnews.org/statewide/...o-bad-weather/



I've been in Quebec for a long time now but I remember going for
training in Minneapolis/St. Paul. I think that it's a close call which
place is the coldest I've been between here and there.

Rain and even light snow is no big deal if you're dressed right. The
second I feel freezing rain, I turn around and go home. Even with
studs, freezing rain and sheet ice is a no-go. Apart from crashing, it
is also the worst possible riding condition -- freezing and wet.

The deal is that no rain gear keeps you dry forever. You will soak
through eventually, and then its a matter of whether you can stay
warm. In freezing and near freezing rain, I'm miserable after
soak-through even with poly pro, wool (name the magical fabric). Throw
in a descent in freezing/near-freezing rain, and I go hypothermic. I
did a day-long ride in near freezing rain with snow at the top of a
climb (Larch Mountain). Climbing was easy because I was generating
heat, but the 14 mile descent about killed me. I was shivering so hard
I could barely hold my bars. I tried to channel Andy Hampsten, but it
didn't work. https://tinyurl.com/yd53bgul


Last race I did was in the hills north of here at Park Mauricie. 105km
with 1500 meters. The first half was pouring cold rain where you went
between freezing on the descents and sweating on the climbs. I remember
my eyes were burning on a climb when the rain washed sweat into them.


That is how I learned that I shall wear my head sweat band also in
winter weather. No more sweat washing down into the eyes. It's good
policy to carry two of those for swapping when soaked through. A sweat
band airing out under the saddle isn't a pretty sight but sure beats
burning eyes.


About the best you can do is to find something light enough to keep you
relatively warm so that when it stops you can pack it up easily.



A very thin tight rain coat would be nice, one that can be rolled up
into a very small ball when not in use.


Showers Pass. It's the best. -- Mario.


James[_8_] April 17th 18 06:05 AM

today's ride
 
On 16/04/18 21:10, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821



Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)


In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except perhaps
a little more wind from the West. We've just started "the dry". For
six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm days, with very little
chance of rain.

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.

--
JS

Duane[_2_] April 17th 18 02:01 PM

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On 17/04/2018 1:05 AM, James wrote:
On 16/04/18 21:10, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821




Nope.Â* Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic.Â* One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)


In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except perhaps
a little more wind from the West.Â* We've just started "the dry".Â* For
six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm days, with very little
chance of rain.

88km this morning.Â* Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.


we're supposed to be starting spring here in Montreal. Typically it
would be in the low teens but it's below zero with rain/sleet/hail for
the last week. And windy. The last few years we've had wet springs but
this cold is unusual. With the blowing rain or sleet it's not pleasant
to ride at all. They're saying high of 12 Saturday and dry so there may
be hope...


Joerg[_2_] April 17th 18 03:42 PM

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On 2018-04-16 17:59, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 3:19:46 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-16 11:49, Duane wrote:
On 16/04/2018 2:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:10:46 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821




Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)

Snow, sleet, hail, freezing rain and rain here in the last 24
hours. And
45k winds to churn things up.
We are also waiting for spring in June. But we’re taking this wait
and see
approach...

It's not so bad here. The people in Minneapolis mock us -- as they
should:
https://blogs.mprnews.org/statewide/...o-bad-weather/



I've been in Quebec for a long time now but I remember going for
training in Minneapolis/St. Paul. I think that it's a close call which
place is the coldest I've been between here and there.

Rain and even light snow is no big deal if you're dressed right. The
second I feel freezing rain, I turn around and go home. Even with
studs, freezing rain and sheet ice is a no-go. Apart from crashing, it
is also the worst possible riding condition -- freezing and wet.

The deal is that no rain gear keeps you dry forever. You will soak
through eventually, and then its a matter of whether you can stay
warm. In freezing and near freezing rain, I'm miserable after
soak-through even with poly pro, wool (name the magical fabric). Throw
in a descent in freezing/near-freezing rain, and I go hypothermic. I
did a day-long ride in near freezing rain with snow at the top of a
climb (Larch Mountain). Climbing was easy because I was generating
heat, but the 14 mile descent about killed me. I was shivering so hard
I could barely hold my bars. I tried to channel Andy Hampsten, but it
didn't work. https://tinyurl.com/yd53bgul


Last race I did was in the hills north of here at Park Mauricie. 105km
with 1500 meters. The first half was pouring cold rain where you went
between freezing on the descents and sweating on the climbs. I remember
my eyes were burning on a climb when the rain washed sweat into them.


That is how I learned that I shall wear my head sweat band also in
winter weather. No more sweat washing down into the eyes. It's good
policy to carry two of those for swapping when soaked through. A sweat
band airing out under the saddle isn't a pretty sight but sure beats
burning eyes.


About the best you can do is to find something light enough to keep you
relatively warm so that when it stops you can pack it up easily.



A very thin tight rain coat would be nice, one that can be rolled up
into a very small ball when not in use.


Showers Pass. It's the best. -- Mario.


https://www.showerspass.com/collecti...t=27454434053#

Not bad and probably very durable. I have something similar for dog
walks in the rain but it's too big even when rolled up as tightly as
possible.

It doesn't rain often on bike rides out here but when it does it can be
pelting.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Joerg[_2_] April 17th 18 03:58 PM

today's ride
 
On 2018-04-16 22:05, James wrote:
On 16/04/18 21:10, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821




Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)


In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except perhaps
a little more wind from the West. We've just started "the dry". For
six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm days, with very little
chance of rain.

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.


Have you tried cotton? I tried some cycling clothes early on in my 20's
which made me sweat profusely and the skin itch, even gave me rashes. A
cotton T-shirt and jeans shorts ... no problem, that's how I go riding
all the time now.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

JBeattie April 17th 18 06:02 PM

today's ride
 
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:42:27 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-16 17:59, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 3:19:46 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-16 11:49, Duane wrote:
On 16/04/2018 2:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:10:46 AM UTC-7, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821




Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)

Snow, sleet, hail, freezing rain and rain here in the last 24
hours. And
45k winds to churn things up.
We are also waiting for spring in June. But we’re taking this wait
and see
approach...

It's not so bad here. The people in Minneapolis mock us -- as they
should:
https://blogs.mprnews.org/statewide/...o-bad-weather/



I've been in Quebec for a long time now but I remember going for
training in Minneapolis/St. Paul. I think that it's a close call which
place is the coldest I've been between here and there.

Rain and even light snow is no big deal if you're dressed right. The
second I feel freezing rain, I turn around and go home. Even with
studs, freezing rain and sheet ice is a no-go. Apart from crashing, it
is also the worst possible riding condition -- freezing and wet.

The deal is that no rain gear keeps you dry forever. You will soak
through eventually, and then its a matter of whether you can stay
warm. In freezing and near freezing rain, I'm miserable after
soak-through even with poly pro, wool (name the magical fabric). Throw
in a descent in freezing/near-freezing rain, and I go hypothermic. I
did a day-long ride in near freezing rain with snow at the top of a
climb (Larch Mountain). Climbing was easy because I was generating
heat, but the 14 mile descent about killed me. I was shivering so hard
I could barely hold my bars. I tried to channel Andy Hampsten, but it
didn't work. https://tinyurl.com/yd53bgul


Last race I did was in the hills north of here at Park Mauricie. 105km
with 1500 meters. The first half was pouring cold rain where you went
between freezing on the descents and sweating on the climbs. I remember
my eyes were burning on a climb when the rain washed sweat into them.


That is how I learned that I shall wear my head sweat band also in
winter weather. No more sweat washing down into the eyes. It's good
policy to carry two of those for swapping when soaked through. A sweat
band airing out under the saddle isn't a pretty sight but sure beats
burning eyes.


About the best you can do is to find something light enough to keep you
relatively warm so that when it stops you can pack it up easily.


A very thin tight rain coat would be nice, one that can be rolled up
into a very small ball when not in use.


Showers Pass. It's the best. -- Mario.


https://www.showerspass.com/collecti...t=27454434053#

Not bad and probably very durable. I have something similar for dog
walks in the rain but it's too big even when rolled up as tightly as
possible.

It doesn't rain often on bike rides out here but when it does it can be
pelting.


Da bomb: https://www.showerspass.com/collecti...nt=27454406469 I know -- it's too expensive, and it is, but I got the predecessor of this jacket for about half-price, and my son got that jacket yesterday pro deal, so it was just ridiculously expensive but not hors categorie ridiculously expensive. It is light, packable, well vented and very effective. It's a local company, although production is probably overseas (I haven't looked at my label recently).

There are many other jackets on the market, but getting one that is light, packable, well vented and effective is a real trick. My commuter jacket is an old Gore Alp-X I got off a sale table. It's a fine jacket but it's not packable, it is now leaking (it's old), and it never vented that well -- but it is more durable than the Spring Classic jacket and more in line with the beefier Showers Pass jackets like the Elite or Transit jackets. If you wear a backpack or beat up jackets, you need something that will not be packable -- at least not packable in a jersey pocket. You could stuff any jacket into a pannier pocket.

I like this video from Showers Pass -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=SIzz9VBdKCU It shows you Larch Mountain, but then bounces to NW Newberry Road and then up on Skyline. Odd editing. Anyway, :30 is pretty typical of the ascent/descent. It gets cold, and its 14 miles long. Another fun factoid, the part of NW Newberry shown in the video now looks like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ0siGJIUFk You have to hoof it around the barriers.

-- Jay Beattie.



JBeattie April 17th 18 06:36 PM

today's ride
 
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:58:41 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-16 22:05, James wrote:
On 16/04/18 21:10, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821




Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for a 30km
ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)


In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except perhaps
a little more wind from the West. We've just started "the dry". For
six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm days, with very little
chance of rain.

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.


Have you tried cotton? I tried some cycling clothes early on in my 20's
which made me sweat profusely and the skin itch, even gave me rashes. A
cotton T-shirt and jeans shorts ... no problem, that's how I go riding
all the time now.


Reminds me of people who ski in jeans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZphvfAQmQ2I -- Pretty good wet weather advice. I use PI Amfibs and not rain pants. I hate the flapping, and I use Goretex booties -- although I have a bunch of neoprene booties, too. No Lake shoes. It's another funny video that cuts together places in the West Hills.

-- Jay Beattie.







Andre Jute[_2_] April 17th 18 11:31 PM

today's ride
 
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:57:23 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:52:18 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 11:51:03 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
... we were appropriately dressed in rain gear, although I let my son use my favorite Showers Pass jacket. I was in a Castelli Gabba rain jersey and vest, which soaked through on the arms and shoulders. The sacrifices I make as a parent! The good part is that he gets pro deals on Showers Pass, so he's going to get his own rain jacket soon. Mine is now off limits.


Good luck with that.


This time, wishful thinking worked. My son works he https://stagescycling.com/us/ It is .9 mile from he https://www.showerspass.com/ He's picking up his jacket today, direct from the maker. I expect him to be modeling it when I get home along with whatever other new bicycle swag he's acquired today. He's going nuts with all the pro deals. It's time for an intervention -- after he gets me some Conti 4Seasons (my one splurge).

-- Jay Beattie.


Congratulations. You're definitely my parent of the year, Jay.

AJ


Andre Jute[_2_] April 17th 18 11:39 PM

today's ride
 
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 6:02:21 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
My commuter jacket is an old Gore Alp-X I got off a sale table. It's a fine jacket but it's not packable, it is now leaking (it's old)


Put it in the washing machine at whatever cycle is recommended, then in the dryer at the maximum recommended temperature. The dryer brings up the nap on the nylon, which is the actual waterproofing. If the nap is worn off, you can get aerosol wax sprays and also wax wipe-on; mine are both made by Nikwax. Limit the waxing to the areas that leak, otherwise the jacket might stop breathing at all and become hot.

AJ
At those prices, a Goretex jacket had better last 30 years

James[_8_] April 17th 18 11:41 PM

today's ride
 
On 18/04/18 00:58, Joerg wrote:


Have you tried cotton? I tried some cycling clothes early on in my 20's
which made me sweat profusely and the skin itch, even gave me rashes. A
cotton T-shirt and jeans shorts ... no problem, that's how I go riding
all the time now.


The lycra skin suit feels cool with the wind blowing over me. I sweat
less than with other cycling jerseys, and I certainly don't itch or get
a rash. It also has useful back pockets.

A cotton shirt is fine for a short trip to the shops.

--
JS

Andre Jute[_2_] April 17th 18 11:45 PM

today's ride
 
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 3:58:41 PM UTC+1, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-16 22:05, James wrote:

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.


Have you tried cotton?


I'm big on cotton too, but then I cycle in street clothes except for my rain jacket.

But the Australian heat is something else, very different from California, where even a hot day would be a cool day in Australia. And where James lives, in Queensland IIRC, there's high humidity as well. You'd sweat right through cotton too.

AJ

Tim McNamara April 18th 18 12:36 AM

today's ride
 
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +1000, James
wrote:

In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except
perhaps a little more wind from the West. We've just started "the
dry". For six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm days,
with very little chance of rain.

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.


Good grief, that sounds nice (as I look at 16" of snow that fell in the
past four days). 1/3 of the way through the year and I've been able to
get out on three (fairly unpleasant) bikes rides so far. And barely
anything approach normal temperatures forecast befre the end of the
month.

The worst "spring" I can recall. Effin' sux.

JBeattie April 18th 18 01:45 AM

today's ride
 
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:36:19 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +1000, James
wrote:

In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except
perhaps a little more wind from the West. We've just started "the
dry". For six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm days,
with very little chance of rain.

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.


Good grief, that sounds nice (as I look at 16" of snow that fell in the
past four days). 1/3 of the way through the year and I've been able to
get out on three (fairly unpleasant) bikes rides so far. And barely
anything approach normal temperatures forecast befre the end of the
month.


Yikes. Time for a trainer. You can become the watt king without getting your bike dirty. Grrrrrrr. Make toast! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4O5voOCqAQ

-- Jay Beattie.

Joy Beeson April 18th 18 03:50 AM

today's ride
 
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:41:06 +1000, James
wrote:

A cotton shirt is fine for a short trip to the shops.


In hot weather, nothing beats wet linen.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

Duane[_4_] April 18th 18 11:06 AM

today's ride
 
Tim McNamara wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +1000, James
wrote:

In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except
perhaps a little more wind from the West. We've just started "the
dry". For six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm days,
with very little chance of rain.

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.


Good grief, that sounds nice (as I look at 16" of snow that fell in the
past four days). 1/3 of the way through the year and I've been able to
get out on three (fairly unpleasant) bikes rides so far. And barely
anything approach normal temperatures forecast befre the end of the
month.

The worst "spring" I can recall. Effin' sux.


+1

--
duane

AMuzi April 18th 18 02:09 PM

today's ride
 
On 4/18/2018 5:06 AM, Duane wrote:
Tim McNamara wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +1000, James
wrote:

In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except
perhaps a little more wind from the West. We've just started "the
dry". For six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm days,
with very little chance of rain.

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.


Good grief, that sounds nice (as I look at 16" of snow that fell in the
past four days). 1/3 of the way through the year and I've been able to
get out on three (fairly unpleasant) bikes rides so far. And barely
anything approach normal temperatures forecast befre the end of the
month.

The worst "spring" I can recall. Effin' sux.


+1


although Tim suffers more it just sucks he
https://www.channel3000.com/news/his...rees/730986688

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971



Joerg[_2_] April 18th 18 03:49 PM

today's ride
 
On 2018-04-17 10:02, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:42:27 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-16 17:59, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 3:19:46 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-16 11:49, Duane wrote:
On 16/04/2018 2:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:10:46 AM UTC-7, Duane
wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821






Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow
out for a 30km ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)

Snow, sleet, hail, freezing rain and rain here in the
last 24 hours. And 45k winds to churn things up. We are
also waiting for spring in June. But we’re taking this
wait and see approach...

It's not so bad here. The people in Minneapolis mock us --
as they should:
https://blogs.mprnews.org/statewide/...o-bad-weather/





I've been in Quebec for a long time now but I remember going for
training in Minneapolis/St. Paul. I think that it's a close
call which place is the coldest I've been between here and
there.

Rain and even light snow is no big deal if you're dressed
right. The second I feel freezing rain, I turn around and
go home. Even with studs, freezing rain and sheet ice is a
no-go. Apart from crashing, it is also the worst possible
riding condition -- freezing and wet.

The deal is that no rain gear keeps you dry forever. You
will soak through eventually, and then its a matter of
whether you can stay warm. In freezing and near freezing
rain, I'm miserable after soak-through even with poly pro,
wool (name the magical fabric). Throw in a descent in
freezing/near-freezing rain, and I go hypothermic. I did a
day-long ride in near freezing rain with snow at the top of
a climb (Larch Mountain). Climbing was easy because I was
generating heat, but the 14 mile descent about killed me. I
was shivering so hard I could barely hold my bars. I tried
to channel Andy Hampsten, but it didn't work.
https://tinyurl.com/yd53bgul


Last race I did was in the hills north of here at Park
Mauricie. 105km with 1500 meters. The first half was
pouring cold rain where you went between freezing on the
descents and sweating on the climbs. I remember my eyes were
burning on a climb when the rain washed sweat into them.


That is how I learned that I shall wear my head sweat band also
in winter weather. No more sweat washing down into the eyes.
It's good policy to carry two of those for swapping when soaked
through. A sweat band airing out under the saddle isn't a
pretty sight but sure beats burning eyes.


About the best you can do is to find something light enough
to keep you relatively warm so that when it stops you can
pack it up easily.


A very thin tight rain coat would be nice, one that can be
rolled up into a very small ball when not in use.

Showers Pass. It's the best. -- Mario.


https://www.showerspass.com/collecti...t=27454434053#



Not bad and probably very durable. I have something similar for dog
walks in the rain but it's too big even when rolled up as tightly
as possible.

It doesn't rain often on bike rides out here but when it does it
can be pelting.


Da bomb:
https://www.showerspass.com/collecti...nt=27454406469
I know -- it's too expensive, and it is, but I got the predecessor of
this jacket for about half-price, and my son got that jacket
yesterday pro deal, so it was just ridiculously expensive but not
hors categorie ridiculously expensive. It is light, packable, well
vented and very effective. It's a local company, although production
is probably overseas (I haven't looked at my label recently).


$289 ... ouch. I wasn't planning on that knd of investment just for a
rain jacket that gets used occasionally.


There are many other jackets on the market, but getting one that is
light, packable, well vented and effective is a real trick. My
commuter jacket is an old Gore Alp-X I got off a sale table. It's a
fine jacket but it's not packable, it is now leaking (it's old), and
it never vented that well -- but it is more durable than the Spring
Classic jacket and more in line with the beefier Showers Pass jackets
like the Elite or Transit jackets. If you wear a backpack or beat up
jackets, you need something that will not be packable -- at least not
packable in a jersey pocket. You could stuff any jacket into a
pannier pocket.


I hardly ever ride with the hydration pack anymore except on routes that
require more than 1-1/2 gallons of water to be carried. Stuffing into
the panniers is ok for no-cargo rides like yesterday when I carried a
friend's jacket in a pannier. Sure enough we forgot to pull it out when
we cycled by his house but he later joined us for dinner and I could
give it back.


I like this video from Showers Pass --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=SIzz9VBdKCU It
shows you Larch Mountain, but then bounces to NW Newberry Road and
then up on Skyline. Odd editing. Anyway, :30 is pretty typical of
the ascent/descent. It gets cold, and its 14 miles long. Another fun
factoid, the part of NW Newberry shown in the video now looks like
this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ0siGJIUFk You have to hoof
it around the barriers.


One of my favorite bike routes of the past still looks like this and
it's been more than a year, except now there are three rock slides:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-5h5drx_9A

The usual, several agencies duking it out about who is responsible or
whatever. Government at its finest. Some people shoulder their bikes and
climb across.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Joerg[_2_] April 18th 18 05:27 PM

today's ride
 
On 2018-04-17 10:36, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 7:58:41 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-16 22:05, James wrote:
On 16/04/18 21:10, Duane wrote:
James wrote:
On 14/04/18 22:42, AMuzi wrote:
Cold, windy, sleet, grey, dismal, blecchhh.

https://www.channel3000.com/news/loo...hail/729197821






Nope. Clear blue sky. Hardly a breeze. 31 degrees C. Very little
traffic. One other bike rider, an 80 year old fellow out for
a 30km ride on his electric assist bike.


Give it 6 months and report back. :-)


In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except
perhaps a little more wind from the West. We've just started
"the dry". For six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm
days, with very little chance of rain.

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was
still sweating.


Have you tried cotton? I tried some cycling clothes early on in my
20's which made me sweat profusely and the skin itch, even gave me
rashes. A cotton T-shirt and jeans shorts ... no problem, that's
how I go riding all the time now.


Reminds me of people who ski in jeans.



That would have been me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZphvfAQmQ2I -- Pretty good wet
weather advice.



This guy suits up like a serious motorcycle rider. If it's not very
cold, meaning below 40F, I'd cycle in T-shirt and jeans shorts. IF too
cold I'd use the car.


... I use PI Amfibs and not rain pants. I hate the
flapping, and I use Goretex booties -- although I have a bunch of
neoprene booties, too. No Lake shoes. It's another funny video that
cuts together places in the West Hills.


I don't like much flapping either. T-shirts do flap a little but that's
tolerable.

Regards,

Joerg

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Joerg[_2_] April 18th 18 05:37 PM

today's ride
 
On 2018-04-17 15:45, Andre Jute wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 3:58:41 PM UTC+1, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-16 22:05, James wrote:

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was
still sweating.


Have you tried cotton?


I'm big on cotton too, but then I cycle in street clothes except for
my rain jacket.


That is the other advantage. I can cycle to a church meeting or other
event without looking like a Tour de France rider.


But the Australian heat is something else, very different from
California, where even a hot day would be a cool day in Australia.
And where James lives, in Queensland IIRC, there's high humidity as
well. You'd sweat right through cotton too.


It can get to about 110F here but then it is usually a dry heat. On more
humid days I sweat through the T-shirt quickly. If on a trip to
somewhere where that isn't appropriate I either carry a 2nd (nicer)
T-shirt in a pannier or bring along some kitchen-size Kleenex sheets
that I lay under the T-shirt before I get there.

Thing is, no matter how fancy the jersey fabric a rider will sweat. If
that sweat can't evaporate due to high humidity it'll linger around in
any case. I've "enjoyed" the fragrance of sweaty riders in expensive
team jerseys while at pubs. It's not pretty. On cycling friend carries a
small can of deodorant along for that (no kidding).

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Joerg[_2_] April 18th 18 06:14 PM

today's ride
 
On 2018-04-18 03:06, Duane wrote:
Tim McNamara wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +1000, James
wrote:

In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except
perhaps a little more wind from the West. We've just started "the
dry". For six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm days,
with very little chance of rain.

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.


Good grief, that sounds nice (as I look at 16" of snow that fell in the
past four days). 1/3 of the way through the year and I've been able to
get out on three (fairly unpleasant) bikes rides so far. And barely
anything approach normal temperatures forecast befre the end of the
month.

The worst "spring" I can recall. Effin' sux.


+1


+2

Just fired up the wood stove. In California, almost end of April!

Global warming ... phhht.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

James[_8_] April 18th 18 11:55 PM

today's ride
 
On 19/04/18 05:32, Joerg wrote:


BTW, the rash thing also happened with the hydration pack belts
especially where they touched skin. Sleeving cut-open cotton tube socks
over them made that problem go away.


You have a woman's skin, my lord...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EfW9znJYjw

--
JS

Andre Jute[_2_] April 19th 18 01:02 AM

today's ride
 
On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 6:14:45 PM UTC+1, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-18 03:06, Duane wrote:
Tim McNamara wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:05:49 +1000, James
wrote:

In six months the weather will be fairly similar to now, except
perhaps a little more wind from the West. We've just started "the
dry". For six months we get cool nights, clear sky and warm days,
with very little chance of rain.

88km this morning. Only had the lycra skin suit on, and I was still
sweating.

Good grief, that sounds nice (as I look at 16" of snow that fell in the
past four days). 1/3 of the way through the year and I've been able to
get out on three (fairly unpleasant) bikes rides so far. And barely
anything approach normal temperatures forecast befre the end of the
month.

The worst "spring" I can recall. Effin' sux.


+1


+2

Just fired up the wood stove. In California, almost end of April!


Miserable here too. Actually the temps would be okay, and I don't mind overcast skies, but 50kph winds all the way from the Urals bring with them a wind chill factor that makes me wonder about turning the central heating back on.

Global warming ... phhht.


As usual, I was ahead of the curve, and abused for it by the stupider cyclists, when my sig line, about twelve or fifteen years ago, was "Bring back global warming!"

AJ
Global warming is great for hungry people

Joy Beeson April 19th 18 04:14 AM

today's ride
 
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:36:36 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

not rain pants. I hate the flapping,


I pin my wind pants at the ankles, then smooth them upward and wrap
half a drawstring around my leg just below the knee. This stops all
flapping, and keeps the pants from snagging on the bike.

The string must be wrapped twice. It is very mysterious, but if it is
wrapped only once, it won't hold. The string should be tight enough
that you can feel it while tying the knot, and loose enough that you
don't feel it after the knot is snugged down.

I have no rain gear at all. If I'm going to be wet, I prefer rain
water to sweat.

I bought a rain cape once. I put it into my pannier, went for a ride,
as I was leaving a mall parking lot it started to rain, I stopped and
put the cape on, looked back to see whether it was safe to start
moving, got off, and put the cape back into the pannier. It hung on a
hook in the back entry until it rotted and I threw it away.


--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/



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