selecting a BB
I'm upgrading the drivetrain of my '85 Mondonico to Campy 10 speed. I
have a very recent Record 10 speed double crank, and the frame has Italian (duhh!) threading, and I know it needs a 102 mm spindle. There aren't many BB choices, but still ... should I get Record? Chorus? Token? Phil? Light weight is significant but more important is durability, especially when higher cost seens to get lower durability, as with a Record. Is this durability concern just a smokescreen? I won't be racing the bike and I'm not hard on things. Sometimes I pedal hard enought to flex the BB but not usually. I'm certainly not a sprint monster. I'm tending toward a Chorus or a Token, mainly due to price and weight. But if there's no liability to putting in a Record I might get a low-mile used one if I believe I found one. What about Token durability? Does everything fit right relative to original Campy? Is there an extra benfit, perhaps chainline adjustment? You get my drift! Ken |
selecting a BB
On Sep 11, 5:15 am, wrote:
I'm upgrading the drivetrain of my '85 Mondonico to Campy 10 speed. I have a very recent Record 10 speed double crank, and the frame has Italian (duhh!) threading, and I know it needs a 102 mm spindle. There aren't many BB choices, but still ... should I get Record? Chorus? Token? Phil? Light weight is significant but more important is durability, especially when higher cost seens to get lower durability, as with a Record. Record has a lighter spindle than Chorus, otherwise idential in terms of bearings. The durability with Record and Chorus is the same since same bearings. Phil is a nice unit and as Record/Chorus BBs get a wee bit scarce(more expensive), Phil becomes a nice choice..what I have on my rain bike. Is this durability concern just a smokescreen? I won't be racing the bike and I'm not hard on things. Sometimes I pedal hard enought to flex the BB but not usually. I'm certainly not a sprint monster. See above. I'm tending toward a Chorus or a Token, mainly due to price and weight. But if there's no liability to putting in a Record I might get a low-mile used one if I believe I found one. See above..NO difference in durability between Record and Chorus(never heard of Token)..don't know ehere this info comes from. NOT in our expoerience at all. What about Token durability? Does everything fit right relative to original Campy? Is there an extra benfit, perhaps chainline adjustment? Get the Phil iffa ya want chainline adjustment. You get my drift! Ken |
selecting a BB
On Sep 11, 8:36 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com"
wrote: On Sep 11, 5:15 am, wrote: I'm upgrading the drivetrain of my '85 Mondonico to Campy 10 speed. I have a very recent Record 10 speed double crank, and the frame has Italian (duhh!) threading, and I know it needs a 102 mm spindle. There aren't many BB choices, but still ... should I get Record? Chorus? Token? Phil? Light weight is significant but more important is durability, especially when higher cost seens to get lower durability, as with a Record. Record has a lighter spindle than Chorus, otherwise idential in terms of bearings. The durability with Record and Chorus is the same since same bearings. Phil is a nice unit and as Record/Chorus BBs get a wee bit scarce(more expensive), Phil becomes a nice choice..what I have on my rain bike. Is this durability concern just a smokescreen? I won't be racing the bike and I'm not hard on things. Sometimes I pedal hard enought to flex the BB but not usually. I'm certainly not a sprint monster. See above. I'm tending toward a Chorus or a Token, mainly due to price and weight. But if there's no liability to putting in a Record I might get a low-mile used one if I believe I found one. See above..NO difference in durability between Record and Chorus(never heard of Token)..don't know ehere this info comes from. NOT in our expoerience at all. What about Token durability? Does everything fit right relative to original Campy? Is there an extra benfit, perhaps chainline adjustment? Get the Phil iffa ya want chainline adjustment. You get my drift! Ken- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The "charges" against the Record come from a few posts on Bikeforums.net. I don't have an axe to grind, I just want a light, slick reliable set of gear. I can forward some of the info back- channel if you want to get into it. Thanks for all the info, but any experience with Token BBs? Specifically in terms of fit and durability? Are they truly compatible with Campy? Token is offerred on Ebay by an ebay store. Again, I can get you the reference if you like. Chainline adjust, even though I mentioned it, is a low priority for me since the frame chainlines correctly with its original Shimano 600 gruppo, and it's getting an alignment check along with its cold- setting, done by an expert. It will be in line when I do the build. I'll get either Doug Fattic, Ron Boi, or Franklin Frames to do the work unless anyone has another good suggestion for the Michigan/ Northern Midwest area. Ken |
selecting a BB
wrote in message ps.com... On Sep 11, 8:36 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" wrote: On Sep 11, 5:15 am, wrote: I'm upgrading the drivetrain of my '85 Mondonico to Campy 10 speed. I have a very recent Record 10 speed double crank, and the frame has Italian (duhh!) threading, and I know it needs a 102 mm spindle. There aren't many BB choices, but still ... should I get Record? Chorus? Token? Phil? Light weight is significant but more important is durability, especially when higher cost seens to get lower durability, as with a Record. Record has a lighter spindle than Chorus, otherwise idential in terms of bearings. The durability with Record and Chorus is the same since same bearings. Phil is a nice unit and as Record/Chorus BBs get a wee bit scarce(more expensive), Phil becomes a nice choice..what I have on my rain bike. Is this durability concern just a smokescreen? I won't be racing the bike and I'm not hard on things. Sometimes I pedal hard enought to flex the BB but not usually. I'm certainly not a sprint monster. See above. I'm tending toward a Chorus or a Token, mainly due to price and weight. But if there's no liability to putting in a Record I might get a low-mile used one if I believe I found one. See above..NO difference in durability between Record and Chorus(never heard of Token)..don't know ehere this info comes from. NOT in our expoerience at all. What about Token durability? Does everything fit right relative to original Campy? Is there an extra benfit, perhaps chainline adjustment? Get the Phil iffa ya want chainline adjustment. You get my drift! Ken- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The "charges" against the Record come from a few posts on Bikeforums.net. I don't have an axe to grind, I just want a light, slick reliable set of gear. I can forward some of the info back- channel if you want to get into it. Thanks for all the info, but any experience with Token BBs? Specifically in terms of fit and durability? Are they truly compatible with Campy? Token is offerred on Ebay by an ebay store. Again, I can get you the reference if you like. Chainline adjust, even though I mentioned it, is a low priority for me since the frame chainlines correctly with its original Shimano 600 gruppo, and it's getting an alignment check along with its cold- setting, done by an expert. It will be in line when I do the build. I'll get either Doug Fattic, Ron Boi, or Franklin Frames to do the work unless anyone has another good suggestion for the Michigan/ Northern Midwest area. Ken If you are reffering to Gary and procycling on eBay then I highly recommend him and his stuff. I built a bike with campy last year and used one of the token campy BB's and it was fine to install and the guy using the bike has had no problems in over a year and daily use in all sorts of condtions. |
selecting a BB
On Sep 11, 7:48 am, wrote:
On Sep 11, 8:36 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" wrote: On Sep 11, 5:15 am, wrote: I'm upgrading the drivetrain of my '85 Mondonico to Campy 10 speed. I have a very recent Record 10 speed double crank, and the frame has Italian (duhh!) threading, and I know it needs a 102 mm spindle. There aren't many BB choices, but still ... should I get Record? Chorus? Token? Phil? Light weight is significant but more important is durability, especially when higher cost seens to get lower durability, as with a Record. Record has a lighter spindle than Chorus, otherwise idential in terms of bearings. The durability with Record and Chorus is the same since same bearings. Phil is a nice unit and as Record/Chorus BBs get a wee bit scarce(more expensive), Phil becomes a nice choice..what I have on my rain bike. Is this durability concern just a smokescreen? I won't be racing the bike and I'm not hard on things. Sometimes I pedal hard enought to flex the BB but not usually. I'm certainly not a sprint monster. See above. I'm tending toward a Chorus or a Token, mainly due to price and weight. But if there's no liability to putting in a Record I might get a low-mile used one if I believe I found one. See above..NO difference in durability between Record and Chorus(never heard of Token)..don't know ehere this info comes from. NOT in our expoerience at all. What about Token durability? Does everything fit right relative to original Campy? Is there an extra benfit, perhaps chainline adjustment? Get the Phil iffa ya want chainline adjustment. You get my drift! Ken- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The "charges" against the Record come from a few posts on Bikeforums.net. I don't have an axe to grind, I just want a light, slick reliable set of gear. I can forward some of the info back- channel if you want to get into it. Thanks for all the info, but any experience with Token BBs? Specifically in terms of fit and durability? Are they truly compatible with Campy? Token is offerred on Ebay by an ebay store. Again, I can get you the reference if you like. Chainline adjust, even though I mentioned it, is a low priority for me since the frame chainlines correctly with its original Shimano 600 gruppo, and it's getting an alignment check along with its cold- setting, done by an expert. It will be in line when I do the build. I'll get either Doug Fattic, Ron Boi, or Franklin Frames to do the work unless anyone has another good suggestion for the Michigan/ Northern Midwest area. Ken Our info, after selling lots of Record and Chorus BBs, is what we go with. We haven't seen any less durability with Record than we Chorus, what you would expect since the bearings and general design is identical. Not familiar with Token, never seen one. Did go to the web site, but happy with Campag(and Phil) units so as long as they are still available, what we will stock. |
selecting a BB
My vote goes to Phil Wood. It weighs less than Campy and will
practically last forever. I know this first hand as I had to replace a Record BB because it had gotten corroded due to water contamination.The only drawback to the PW is that you'll need to buy the retainer rings separately as well as the installation tool. I have a stainless steel PW 102 Campy BB with 5000km I want to sell. I want to sell it as it's just sitting around gathering dust ever since I replaced it with a PW 110.5 to run a Campy triple crank. Send me an email if you're interested. |
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