Chain Lube?
 

I wonder whether this product might not be a useful chain lube
https://tinyurl.com/yc8dwzfp

cheers,

John B.

Chain Lube?
 

John B. slocomb wrote:

I wonder whether this product might not be a useful chain lube
https://tinyurl.com/yc8dwzfp

cheers,

John B.

It looks pricey, but molybdenum disulphide is a great, albeit messy dry
lubricant.

Chain Lube?
 

On 2018-11-12 16:17, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. slocomb wrote:

I wonder whether this product might not be a useful chain lube
https://tinyurl.com/yc8dwzfp

cheers,

John B.

It looks pricey, but molybdenum disulphide is a great, albeit messy dry
lubricant.


Yes, that looks like it could become the most expensive chain lube ever.
Do they have real gold flakes in there? I can't imagine a can lasting
more than 4-5 lubes. You could buy a new chain instead where the factory
lube lasts like 2-3 normal lube intervals.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Chain Lube?
 

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:25:35 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

On 2018-11-12 16:17, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. slocomb wrote:

I wonder whether this product might not be a useful chain lube
https://tinyurl.com/yc8dwzfp

cheers,

John B.

It looks pricey, but molybdenum disulphide is a great, albeit messy dry
lubricant.


Yes, that looks like it could become the most expensive chain lube ever.
Do they have real gold flakes in there? I can't imagine a can lasting
more than 4-5 lubes. You could buy a new chain instead where the factory
lube lasts like 2-3 normal lube intervals.

Good Lord! A cyclist worrying about prices? Impossible!

After all a TREK Madone SLR 9 Disc eTap starts at a mere
$12,299,99.... But of course, that's a road bike and everyone knows
that those who actually ride a bicycle on a public road are... well, a
bit on the stupid side. Imagine, ignoring all those dangerous
automobiles...

In contrast, the mountain bikers, a sport that originated with a bunch
of guys who rode old second, third, fourth hand, bikes that even the
riders referred to as "Klunkers", can now rejoice in a brand new TREK
Top Fuel 9.9 SL, for a paltry $9,299.99.

And you want to ignore an almost magical product that markets for a
mere $44.77 (plus shipping) ?
cheers,

John B.

Chain Lube?
 

John B. slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:25:35 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

On 2018-11-12 16:17, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. slocomb wrote:

I wonder whether this product might not be a useful chain lube
https://tinyurl.com/yc8dwzfp

cheers,

John B.

It looks pricey, but molybdenum disulphide is a great, albeit messy dry
lubricant.


Yes, that looks like it could become the most expensive chain lube ever.
Do they have real gold flakes in there? I can't imagine a can lasting
more than 4-5 lubes. You could buy a new chain instead where the factory
lube lasts like 2-3 normal lube intervals.

Good Lord! A cyclist worrying about prices? Impossible!

After all a TREK Madone SLR 9 Disc eTap starts at a mere
$12,299,99.... But of course, that's a road bike and everyone knows
that those who actually ride a bicycle on a public road are... well, a
bit on the stupid side. Imagine, ignoring all those dangerous
automobiles...

In contrast, the mountain bikers, a sport that originated with a bunch
of guys who rode old second, third, fourth hand, bikes that even the
riders referred to as "Klunkers", can now rejoice in a brand new TREK
Top Fuel 9.9 SL, for a paltry $9,299.99.

And you want to ignore an almost magical product that markets for a
mere $44.77 (plus shipping) ?
cheers,

John B.

Just buy your moly powder in bulk and mix it in with the carrier of your
choice (oil, wax, a fast evaporating solvent, or a mixture of the above)

https://www.lowerfriction.com/produc...?categoryID=26

Chain Lube?
 

On 13/11/18 1:31 pm, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:25:35 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

On 2018-11-12 16:17, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. slocomb wrote:

I wonder whether this product might not be a useful chain lube
https://tinyurl.com/yc8dwzfp

cheers,

John B.

It looks pricey, but molybdenum disulphide is a great, albeit messy dry
lubricant.


Yes, that looks like it could become the most expensive chain lube ever.
Do they have real gold flakes in there? I can't imagine a can lasting
more than 4-5 lubes. You could buy a new chain instead where the factory
lube lasts like 2-3 normal lube intervals.

Good Lord! A cyclist worrying about prices? Impossible!

After all a TREK Madone SLR 9 Disc eTap starts at a mere
$12,299,99.... But of course, that's a road bike and everyone knows
that those who actually ride a bicycle on a public road are... well, a
bit on the stupid side. Imagine, ignoring all those dangerous
automobiles...

In contrast, the mountain bikers, a sport that originated with a bunch
of guys who rode old second, third, fourth hand, bikes that even the
riders referred to as "Klunkers", can now rejoice in a brand new TREK
Top Fuel 9.9 SL, for a paltry $9,299.99.

And you want to ignore an almost magical product that markets for a
mere $44.77 (plus shipping) ?
cheers,

John B.

Just buy your moly powder in bulk and mix it in with the carrier of your
choice (oil, wax, a fast evaporating solvent, or a mixture of the above)

https://www.lowerfriction.com/produc...?categoryID=26



I added a good slug of MoS2 grease to my wax/oil mix.

--
JS

Chain Lube?
 

On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 5:09:05 PM UTC-8, John B. slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:25:35 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

On 2018-11-12 16:17, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. slocomb wrote:

I wonder whether this product might not be a useful chain lube
https://tinyurl.com/yc8dwzfp

cheers,

John B.

It looks pricey, but molybdenum disulphide is a great, albeit messy dry
lubricant.


Yes, that looks like it could become the most expensive chain lube ever.
Do they have real gold flakes in there? I can't imagine a can lasting
more than 4-5 lubes. You could buy a new chain instead where the factory
lube lasts like 2-3 normal lube intervals.

Good Lord! A cyclist worrying about prices? Impossible!

After all a TREK Madone SLR 9 Disc eTap starts at a mere
$12,299,99.... But of course, that's a road bike and everyone knows
that those who actually ride a bicycle on a public road are... well, a
bit on the stupid side. Imagine, ignoring all those dangerous
automobiles...

In contrast, the mountain bikers, a sport that originated with a bunch
of guys who rode old second, third, fourth hand, bikes that even the
riders referred to as "Klunkers", can now rejoice in a brand new TREK
Top Fuel 9.9 SL, for a paltry $9,299.99.

And you want to ignore an almost magical product that markets for a
mere $44.77 (plus shipping) ?
cheers,

Plus, it provides "permanent" lubrication:

"Suitable for the permanent lubrication of highly stressed sliding guides with low sliding speeds, oscillating movements or intermittent operation. Used successfully for cylinder-head bolts, toaster guides, car mirror adjustment mechanisms, high voltage switches, for the running-in of highly stressed gear wheels."

You spray it on your chain once, and you're done for life. Awesome!

-- Jay Beattie.

Chain Lube?
 

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 20:05:43 -0800 (PST), jbeattie
wrote:

On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 5:09:05 PM UTC-8, John B. slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:25:35 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

On 2018-11-12 16:17, Ralph Barone wrote:
John B. slocomb wrote:

I wonder whether this product might not be a useful chain lube
https://tinyurl.com/yc8dwzfp

cheers,

John B.

It looks pricey, but molybdenum disulphide is a great, albeit messy dry
lubricant.


Yes, that looks like it could become the most expensive chain lube ever.
Do they have real gold flakes in there? I can't imagine a can lasting
more than 4-5 lubes. You could buy a new chain instead where the factory
lube lasts like 2-3 normal lube intervals.

Good Lord! A cyclist worrying about prices? Impossible!

After all a TREK Madone SLR 9 Disc eTap starts at a mere
$12,299,99.... But of course, that's a road bike and everyone knows
that those who actually ride a bicycle on a public road are... well, a
bit on the stupid side. Imagine, ignoring all those dangerous
automobiles...

In contrast, the mountain bikers, a sport that originated with a bunch
of guys who rode old second, third, fourth hand, bikes that even the
riders referred to as "Klunkers", can now rejoice in a brand new TREK
Top Fuel 9.9 SL, for a paltry $9,299.99.

And you want to ignore an almost magical product that markets for a
mere $44.77 (plus shipping) ?
cheers,

Plus, it provides "permanent" lubrication:

"Suitable for the permanent lubrication of highly stressed sliding guides with low sliding speeds, oscillating movements or intermittent operation. Used successfully for cylinder-head bolts, toaster guides, car mirror adjustment mechanisms, high voltage switches, for the running-in of highly stressed gear wheels."

You spray it on your chain once, and you're done for life. Awesome!

-- Jay Beattie.


My Dad use to use this on our trailers' swaybars. It is a little
messy.

Cheers

Chain Lube?
 

On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:52:19 +0700, John B. slocomb
wrote:

I wonder whether this product might not be a useful chain lube
https://tinyurl.com/yc8dwzfp

By now, you should have gotten my clue that it helps to know the
ingredients and what they do.
https://webaps.ellsworth.com/edl/Actions/GetLibraryFile.aspx?document=23592&language=en

Chemical name CAS-No. Concentration (% w/w)
Butane 106-97-8 = 49 - = 67

n-Butyl acetate 123-86-4 = 8 - = 12

Propane 74-98-6 = 8 - = 12

Naphtha (petroleum), hydrodesulfurized heavy
64742-82-1 = 7 - = 11

Molybdenum sulfide 1317-33-5 = 5 - = 7

Polybutyl titanate 9022-96-2 = 3 - = 4

Graphite 7782-42-5 = 1.4 - = 1.8

Ethylbenzene 100-41-4 = 0.12 - = 0.16

The butane and propane are propellants and don't do anything for
lubrication. n-Butyl acetate is another name for acetic acid. My
guess(tm) is that it's used to mask the yucky smell.

Most of the contents is naphtha, which is an oily lubricant found
various forms in most lubricants. Others in the family are mineral
oil, stoddards solvent, kerosene, camp stove oil, petroleum
distillate, etc. These are not identical, but quite similar.

Molybdenum (di)sulfide is a friction reducer and the main lubricating
ingredient in the mix.
https://www.engineersedge.com/lubrication/molybdenum_disulfide_characteristics.htm

Poly butyl titanate (PBT), also known as titanium tetrabutanolate,
seems to be a lubricant that will coat the metal parts with a thin
(possibly nanoparticle) but hard layer of titanium dioxide. It's a
common friction reducing additive to lubricants.
https://res.mdpi.com/lubricants/lubricants-04-00012/article_deploy/lubricants-04-00012.pdf?filename=&attachment=1

Graphite is yet another friction reducer.

The tiny amount of ethylbenzene seems to be to prevent the naphtha
from turning to tar.

So, there's you have my best guess as to how this stuff works. The
problem is that there's nothing listed that would help the lubricant
enter the pin and sleeve area of the chain through capillary action.
If the chain were perfectly clean, I could possibly see it entering
the pin and sleeve, but any old oil, dirt, or wax, will block entry to
the only place where the various friction reducers can work. It might
work if you immersed the chain in a hot solution of this lube, but in
a spray can, that's not going to happen. Spraying the oil on the
surface of the chain isn't going to do anything for lubrication
besides attract dirt.


--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Chain Lube?
 

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 21:28:47 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

The tiny amount of ethylbenzene seems to be to prevent the naphtha
from turning to tar.

Ok, that's wrong. The ethylbenzene is probably a contaminant left
over from the distillation of the naphtha.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558