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Mountain Biking - Ban vs. Compromise
Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws.
It was good to read your point of view and I get that perception is a big deal. However, the activist mountain bikers don’t seem to share your point of view. I’ve observed a total disregard for the laws by these activists and yet they are not seen as “freaks” as you identified yourself. I also agree that walking in wilderness should not be banned and that the “damage” hikers do is not nearly as horrible as biking does. I never considered mountain biking (I’ve always been a street/paved path bicyclist). Because of Mike’s activities and his sharing on the damage of this activity to our wilderness and the bicyclists has made me an anti-mountain biking activist. I think that if we could get enough volunteers around the world to adopt a trail or two that does not allow mountain biking; we can help the park rangers with enforcement. I began that process by hiking a trail in Oakland’s wilderness and discovered the website was not current in its information. So I helped by communicating with East Bay Parks and they fixed it. Now I’m adopting a new trail which I will begin next week (weather permitting). I don’t think this is radical – I think it’s a good way to begin the process of educating everyone to the radical mountain bikers who don’t care about wilderness in the same way most folks do. My Process: · Walk the trail at least one time per week · Bring a whistle (and light if necessary) · Wear nice bright clothes so you are not invisible ( a safety vest is good) · Bring a cell phone (or satellite if you have one) · Enjoy nature while paying attention · If you run across illegal trails or mountain bikers, be polite but ask them to get off of their bikes and walk to the nearest legal trail (have one in mind). Or back the way they came, which they don't like. If they are hostile, use your whistle and cell phone and · Then report any incidents (minor or major) to the park rangers. Good idea! A digital camera is also useful. Photographing them sends them a message, and inhibits their law-breaking, and the photos may be useful for law enforcement. I think that a digital camera usually takes clearer photos than a cell phone. Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads. Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk? Ed Dolan the Great – Minnesota |
Mountain Biking - Ban vs. Compromise
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, "EdwardDolan"
wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Ed, what trenches are you referring to? The ones that you dig yourself and then post as Proof"? I will say that you do have a well developed gasp on fantasy, but that alter the fact that in reality you are still the little greedy fellow defending his toy box from all comers. "No! NO! Get out of here! You can't play with my toys" -- cheers, John B. |
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On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 6:27:34 AM UTC-7, Edward Dolan wrote:
Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. * It was good to read your point of view and I get that perception is a big deal.* However, the activist mountain bikers don’t seem to share your point of view.* I’ve observed a total disregard for the laws by these activists and yet they are not seen as “freaks” as you identified yourself.* I also agree that walking in wilderness should not be banned and that the “damage” hikers do is not nearly as horrible as biking does.* I never considered mountain biking (I’ve always been a street/paved path bicyclist).* Because of Mike’s activities and his sharing on the damage of this activity to our wilderness and the bicyclists has made me an anti-mountain biking activist. I think that if we could get enough volunteers around the world to adopt a trail or two that does not allow mountain biking; we can help the park rangers with enforcement.* I began that process by hiking a trail in Oakland’s wilderness and discovered the website was not current in its information.* So I helped by communicating with East Bay Parks and they fixed it.* Now I’m adopting a new trail which I will begin next week (weather permitting). I don’t think this is radical – I think it’s a good way to begin the process of educating everyone to the radical mountain bikers who don’t care about wilderness in the same way most folks do. My Process: ·******** Walk the trail at least one time per week ·******** Bring a whistle (and light if necessary) ·******** Wear nice bright clothes so you are not invisible ( a safety vest is good) ·******** Bring a cell phone (or satellite if you have one) ·******** Enjoy nature while paying attention ·******** If you run across illegal trails or mountain bikers, be polite but ask them to get off of their bikes and walk to the nearest legal trail (have one in mind). * Or back the way they came, which they don't like. * If they are hostile, use your whistle and cell phone and ·******** Then report any incidents (minor or major) to the park rangers. * Good idea! A digital camera is also useful. Photographing them sends them a message, and inhibits their law-breaking, and the photos may be useful for law enforcement. I think that a digital camera usually takes clearer photos than a cell phone. * Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads. * Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk? * Ed Dolan the Great – Minnesota** * * After carefully trying to observe the "damage" that bikes cause I noted that the bikes cause the damage of smoothing out the rain ruts on soft ground and making no damage on hard ground except where kids on bike tried to jump logs laying across the trail from rain or wind fallen trees. It sure is terrible that a fallen tree can have chunks carved out of it by sprokets. So what you are really complaining about is that you don't want anyone else using "your" trails. |
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"John B." wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Ed, what trenches are you referring to? The ones that you dig yourself and then post as Proof"? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! I will say that you do have a well developed gasp on fantasy, but that alter the fact that in reality you are still the little greedy fellow defending his toy box from all comers. "No! NO! Get out of here! You can't play with my toys" Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! |
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[...] After carefully trying to observe the "damage" that bikes cause I noted that the bikes cause the damage of smoothing out the rain ruts on soft ground and making no damage on hard ground except where kids on bike tried to jump logs laying across the trail from rain or wind fallen trees. It sure is terrible that a fallen tree can have chunks carved out of it by sprokets. I am not overly concerned about the damage that bikes do to trails. I suspect most damage is done to trails when bikes are ridden on wet surfaces. Mike Vandeman is the expert on that. I am concerned about the damage that mountain bikes do to the psyche of hikers. So what you are really complaining about is that you don't want anyone else using "your" trails. This borders on a John B.ull**** response. Be careful I don’t treat you like I do him. The reasons why I don’t want bikes on trails is all here on this newsgroup. I am not going to go over and over old material for your benefit. Either get up to speed or get lost. Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads. Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk? Ed Dolan the Great – Minnesota |
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote:
Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Let me guess, scofflaw was word of the month in Reader's Digest. |
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Let me guess, scofflaw was word of the month in Reader's Digest. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! |
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:00:48 -0500, "EdwardDolan"
wrote: wrote in message ... [...] After carefully trying to observe the "damage" that bikes cause I noted that the bikes cause the damage of smoothing out the rain ruts on soft ground and making no damage on hard ground except where kids on bike tried to jump logs laying across the trail from rain or wind fallen trees. It sure is terrible that a fallen tree can have chunks carved out of it by sprokets. I am not overly concerned about the damage that bikes do to trails. I suspect most damage is done to trails when bikes are ridden on wet surfaces. Mike Vandeman is the expert on that. I am concerned about the damage that mountain bikes do to the psyche of hikers. Oh, a bloke who was convicted of, what was it, assault with a weapon? is your hero? Who will you deify next? An axe murdered? So what you are really complaining about is that you don't want anyone else using "your" trails. This borders on a John B.ull**** response. Be careful I dont treat you like I do him. The reasons why I dont want bikes on trails is all here on this newsgroup. I am not going to go over and over old material for your benefit. Either get up to speed or get lost. Nope, don't bother to go over it. Keep it a secret clutched to your bosom. After all if you were to actually divulge your secrets we'd all discover that you have no reasons at all. Except "NO, NO, I won't have it, I forbid you?". Sort of "you can't play with MY toys". Ed Dolan the Great Minnesota Of course "Great". Great Prevaricator. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:48:47 -0500, "EdwardDolan"
wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Ed, what trenches are you referring to? The ones that you dig yourself and then post as Proof"? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! I will say that you do have a well developed gasp on fantasy, but that alter the fact that in reality you are still the little greedy fellow defending his toy box from all comers. "No! NO! Get out of here! You can't play with my toys" Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But you, not being me, prefer curses and foul language. Yes Sir. A true gentleman. But then, tiny little boys valiantly defending their "turf", i.e., the toy box, have been known to use bad language and in the old days got their mouth washed out with soap and water to teach them not to talk that way. Apparently there was a shortage of soap at your house? -- cheers, John B. |
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"John B." wrote in message
... On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:48:47 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Ed, what trenches are you referring to? The ones that you dig yourself and then post as Proof"? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! I will say that you do have a well developed gasp on fantasy, but that alter the fact that in reality you are still the little greedy fellow defending his toy box from all comers. "No! NO! Get out of here! You can't play with my toys" Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But you, not being me, prefer curses and foul language. Yes Sir. A true gentleman. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But then, tiny little boys valiantly defending their "turf", i.e., the toy box, have been known to use bad language and in the old days got their mouth washed out with soap and water to teach them not to talk that way. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Apparently there was a shortage of soap at your house? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! |
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"John B." wrote in message
... On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:00:48 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: wrote in message ... [...] After carefully trying to observe the "damage" that bikes cause I noted that the bikes cause the damage of smoothing out the rain ruts on soft ground and making no damage on hard ground except where kids on bike tried to jump logs laying across the trail from rain or wind fallen trees. It sure is terrible that a fallen tree can have chunks carved out of it by sprokets. I am not overly concerned about the damage that bikes do to trails. I suspect most damage is done to trails when bikes are ridden on wet surfaces. Mike Vandeman is the expert on that. I am concerned about the damage that mountain bikes do to the psyche of hikers. Oh, a bloke who was convicted of, what was it, assault with a weapon? is your hero? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Who will you deify next? An axe murdered? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! So what you are really complaining about is that you don't want anyone else using "your" trails. This borders on a John B.ull**** response. Be careful I don’t treat you like I do him. The reasons why I don’t want bikes on trails is all here on this newsgroup. I am not going to go over and over old material for your benefit. Either get up to speed or get lost. Nope, don't bother to go over it. Keep it a secret clutched to your bosom. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! After all if you were to actually divulge your secrets we'd all discover that you have no reasons at all. Except "NO, NO, I won't have it, I forbid you?". Sort of "you can't play with MY toys". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 00:07:13 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote:
"news16" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Let me guess, scofflaw was word of the month in Reader's Digest. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Thank you. Status as depressed desperately seeking attention confirmed. Happy riding |
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"news16" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 00:07:13 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote: "news16" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Let me guess, scofflaw was word of the month in Reader's Digest. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Thank you. Status as depressed desperately seeking attention confirmed. Happy riding Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 01:21:09 -0500, "EdwardDolan"
wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:00:48 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: wrote in message ... [...] After carefully trying to observe the "damage" that bikes cause I noted that the bikes cause the damage of smoothing out the rain ruts on soft ground and making no damage on hard ground except where kids on bike tried to jump logs laying across the trail from rain or wind fallen trees. It sure is terrible that a fallen tree can have chunks carved out of it by sprokets. I am not overly concerned about the damage that bikes do to trails. I suspect most damage is done to trails when bikes are ridden on wet surfaces. Mike Vandeman is the expert on that. I am concerned about the damage that mountain bikes do to the psyche of hikers. Oh, a bloke who was convicted of, what was it, assault with a weapon? is your hero? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Who will you deify next? An axe murdered? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! So what you are really complaining about is that you don't want anyone else using "your" trails. This borders on a John B.ull**** response. Be careful I dont treat you like I do him. The reasons why I dont want bikes on trails is all here on this newsgroup. I am not going to go over and over old material for your benefit. Either get up to speed or get lost. Nope, don't bother to go over it. Keep it a secret clutched to your bosom. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! After all if you were to actually divulge your secrets we'd all discover that you have no reasons at all. Except "NO, NO, I won't have it, I forbid you?". Sort of "you can't play with MY toys". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! An enlightening response. It appears that, rather than a learned and thoughtful response setting forth the reasons that bicycles must be banned from public property we find that Dolan the Great has no considered response. In fact it appears that he has no response at all except for curses and foul language. It sounds very like the little boy who shouts, "You can't play with my toys" and asked "why", has no answer, except "They are mine and you can't play with them". In short, Dolan the Great really isn't. "Dirty mouth Dolan" perhaps, or "Dolan the Foul" but certainly not "Dolan the Great"..... unless "Dolan the Great Fool". But certainly not Dolan the intelligent or Dolan the logical or Dolan the well informed. In short, just another loud mouth fool repeats the same "can't walk" catechism over and over, apparently lacking the intelligence to make a reasoned response. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 01:19:10 -0500, "EdwardDolan"
wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:48:47 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Ed, what trenches are you referring to? The ones that you dig yourself and then post as Proof"? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! I will say that you do have a well developed gasp on fantasy, but that alter the fact that in reality you are still the little greedy fellow defending his toy box from all comers. "No! NO! Get out of here! You can't play with my toys" Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But you, not being me, prefer curses and foul language. Yes Sir. A true gentleman. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But then, tiny little boys valiantly defending their "turf", i.e., the toy box, have been known to use bad language and in the old days got their mouth washed out with soap and water to teach them not to talk that way. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Apparently there was a shortage of soap at your house? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! By gorry Doodles but you are banging away on all cylinders... although displaying a singularly limited conversational ability. No imagination I suppose. But, I notice that you are no longer "Dolan the Great". Come down a notch or two on the old totem pole have you? what are you now? "Dolan the Clown"? -- cheers, John B. |
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"John B." wrote in message
... On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 01:19:10 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:48:47 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Ed, what trenches are you referring to? The ones that you dig yourself and then post as Proof"? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! I will say that you do have a well developed gasp on fantasy, but that alter the fact that in reality you are still the little greedy fellow defending his toy box from all comers. "No! NO! Get out of here! You can't play with my toys" Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But you, not being me, prefer curses and foul language. Yes Sir. A true gentleman. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But then, tiny little boys valiantly defending their "turf", i.e., the toy box, have been known to use bad language and in the old days got their mouth washed out with soap and water to teach them not to talk that way. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Apparently there was a shortage of soap at your house? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! By gorry Doodles but you are banging away on all cylinders... although displaying a singularly limited conversational ability. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! No imagination I suppose. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But, I notice that you are no longer "Dolan the Great". Come down a notch or two on the old totem pole have you? what are you now? "Dolan the Clown"? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! |
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"John B." wrote in message
... On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 01:21:09 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:00:48 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: wrote in message ... [...] After carefully trying to observe the "damage" that bikes cause I noted that the bikes cause the damage of smoothing out the rain ruts on soft ground and making no damage on hard ground except where kids on bike tried to jump logs laying across the trail from rain or wind fallen trees. It sure is terrible that a fallen tree can have chunks carved out of it by sprokets. I am not overly concerned about the damage that bikes do to trails. I suspect most damage is done to trails when bikes are ridden on wet surfaces. Mike Vandeman is the expert on that. I am concerned about the damage that mountain bikes do to the psyche of hikers. Oh, a bloke who was convicted of, what was it, assault with a weapon? is your hero? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Who will you deify next? An axe murdered? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! So what you are really complaining about is that you don't want anyone else using "your" trails. This borders on a John B.ull**** response. Be careful I don’t treat you like I do him. The reasons why I don’t want bikes on trails is all here on this newsgroup. I am not going to go over and over old material for your benefit. Either get up to speed or get lost. Nope, don't bother to go over it. Keep it a secret clutched to your bosom. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! After all if you were to actually divulge your secrets we'd all discover that you have no reasons at all. Except "NO, NO, I won't have it, I forbid you?". Sort of "you can't play with MY toys". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! An enlightening response. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! It appears that, rather than a learned and thoughtful response setting forth the reasons that bicycles must be banned from public property we find that Dolan the Great has no considered response. In fact it appears that he has no response at all except for curses and foul language. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! It sounds very like the little boy who shouts, "You can't play with my toys" and asked "why", has no answer, except "They are mine and you can't play with them". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! In short, Dolan the Great really isn't. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! "Dirty mouth Dolan" perhaps, or "Dolan the Foul" but certainly not "Dolan the Great"..... unless "Dolan the Great Fool". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But certainly not Dolan the intelligent or Dolan the logical or Dolan the well informed. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! In short, just another loud mouth fool repeats the same "can't walk" catechism over and over, apparently lacking the intelligence to make a reasoned response. Unlike you, I can identify content . Post content if you want discussion. Otherwise, all you get is: Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 05:02:14 -0500, "EdwardDolan"
wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 01:19:10 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:48:47 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Ed, what trenches are you referring to? The ones that you dig yourself and then post as Proof"? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! I will say that you do have a well developed gasp on fantasy, but that alter the fact that in reality you are still the little greedy fellow defending his toy box from all comers. "No! NO! Get out of here! You can't play with my toys" Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But you, not being me, prefer curses and foul language. Yes Sir. A true gentleman. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But then, tiny little boys valiantly defending their "turf", i.e., the toy box, have been known to use bad language and in the old days got their mouth washed out with soap and water to teach them not to talk that way. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Apparently there was a shortage of soap at your house? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! By gorry Doodles but you are banging away on all cylinders... although displaying a singularly limited conversational ability. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! No imagination I suppose. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But, I notice that you are no longer "Dolan the Great". Come down a notch or two on the old totem pole have you? what are you now? "Dolan the Clown"? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But Dooley, you are doing just what we want you. You have given up with the "I hate Bicycles" refrain and are now exhibiting your true colors. Cyclists - 1, Dolan - 0 -- cheers, John B. |
Mountain Biking - Ban vs. Compromise
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 05:09:51 -0500, "EdwardDolan"
wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 01:21:09 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:00:48 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: wrote in message ... [...] After carefully trying to observe the "damage" that bikes cause I noted that the bikes cause the damage of smoothing out the rain ruts on soft ground and making no damage on hard ground except where kids on bike tried to jump logs laying across the trail from rain or wind fallen trees. It sure is terrible that a fallen tree can have chunks carved out of it by sprokets. I am not overly concerned about the damage that bikes do to trails. I suspect most damage is done to trails when bikes are ridden on wet surfaces. Mike Vandeman is the expert on that. I am concerned about the damage that mountain bikes do to the psyche of hikers. Oh, a bloke who was convicted of, what was it, assault with a weapon? is your hero? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Who will you deify next? An axe murdered? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! So what you are really complaining about is that you don't want anyone else using "your" trails. This borders on a John B.ull**** response. Be careful I dont treat you like I do him. The reasons why I dont want bikes on trails is all here on this newsgroup. I am not going to go over and over old material for your benefit. Either get up to speed or get lost. Nope, don't bother to go over it. Keep it a secret clutched to your bosom. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! After all if you were to actually divulge your secrets we'd all discover that you have no reasons at all. Except "NO, NO, I won't have it, I forbid you?". Sort of "you can't play with MY toys". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! An enlightening response. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! It appears that, rather than a learned and thoughtful response setting forth the reasons that bicycles must be banned from public property we find that Dolan the Great has no considered response. In fact it appears that he has no response at all except for curses and foul language. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! It sounds very like the little boy who shouts, "You can't play with my toys" and asked "why", has no answer, except "They are mine and you can't play with them". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! In short, Dolan the Great really isn't. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! "Dirty mouth Dolan" perhaps, or "Dolan the Foul" but certainly not "Dolan the Great"..... unless "Dolan the Great Fool". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But certainly not Dolan the intelligent or Dolan the logical or Dolan the well informed. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! In short, just another loud mouth fool repeats the same "can't walk" catechism over and over, apparently lacking the intelligence to make a reasoned response. Unlike you, I can identify content . Post content if you want discussion. Otherwise, all you get is: Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But Dooley, you are doing just what we want you. You have given up with the "I hate Bicycles" refrain and are now exhibiting your true colors. Cyclists - 1, Dolan - 0 -- cheers, John B. |
Mountain Biking - Ban vs. Compromise
"John B." wrote in message
... On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 05:02:14 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 01:19:10 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:48:47 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:27:39 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: Another report from the trenches. I think bans only work since mountain bikers are such scofflaws. Ed, what trenches are you referring to? The ones that you dig yourself and then post as Proof"? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! I will say that you do have a well developed gasp on fantasy, but that alter the fact that in reality you are still the little greedy fellow defending his toy box from all comers. "No! NO! Get out of here! You can't play with my toys" Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But you, not being me, prefer curses and foul language. Yes Sir. A true gentleman. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But then, tiny little boys valiantly defending their "turf", i.e., the toy box, have been known to use bad language and in the old days got their mouth washed out with soap and water to teach them not to talk that way. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Apparently there was a shortage of soap at your house? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! By gorry Doodles but you are banging away on all cylinders... although displaying a singularly limited conversational ability. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! No imagination I suppose. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But, I notice that you are no longer "Dolan the Great". Come down a notch or two on the old totem pole have you? what are you now? "Dolan the Clown"? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But Dooley, you are doing just what we want you. You have given up with the "I hate Bicycles" refrain and are now exhibiting your true colors. Cyclists - 1, Dolan - 0 Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! |
Mountain Biking - Ban vs. Compromise
"John B." wrote in message
... On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 05:09:51 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message .. . On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 01:21:09 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: "John B." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:00:48 -0500, "EdwardDolan" wrote: wrote in message ... [...] After carefully trying to observe the "damage" that bikes cause I noted that the bikes cause the damage of smoothing out the rain ruts on soft ground and making no damage on hard ground except where kids on bike tried to jump logs laying across the trail from rain or wind fallen trees. It sure is terrible that a fallen tree can have chunks carved out of it by sprokets. I am not overly concerned about the damage that bikes do to trails. I suspect most damage is done to trails when bikes are ridden on wet surfaces. Mike Vandeman is the expert on that. I am concerned about the damage that mountain bikes do to the psyche of hikers. Oh, a bloke who was convicted of, what was it, assault with a weapon? is your hero? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! Who will you deify next? An axe murdered? Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! So what you are really complaining about is that you don't want anyone else using "your" trails. This borders on a John B.ull**** response. Be careful I don’t treat you like I do him. The reasons why I don’t want bikes on trails is all here on this newsgroup. I am not going to go over and over old material for your benefit. Either get up to speed or get lost. Nope, don't bother to go over it. Keep it a secret clutched to your bosom. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! After all if you were to actually divulge your secrets we'd all discover that you have no reasons at all. Except "NO, NO, I won't have it, I forbid you?". Sort of "you can't play with MY toys". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! An enlightening response. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! It appears that, rather than a learned and thoughtful response setting forth the reasons that bicycles must be banned from public property we find that Dolan the Great has no considered response. In fact it appears that he has no response at all except for curses and foul language. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! It sounds very like the little boy who shouts, "You can't play with my toys" and asked "why", has no answer, except "They are mine and you can't play with them". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! In short, Dolan the Great really isn't. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! "Dirty mouth Dolan" perhaps, or "Dolan the Foul" but certainly not "Dolan the Great"..... unless "Dolan the Great Fool". Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But certainly not Dolan the intelligent or Dolan the logical or Dolan the well informed. Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! In short, just another loud mouth fool repeats the same "can't walk" catechism over and over, apparently lacking the intelligence to make a reasoned response. Unlike you, I can identify content . Post content if you want discussion. Otherwise, all you get is: Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! But Dooley, you are doing just what we want you. You have given up with the "I hate Bicycles" refrain and are now exhibiting your true colors. Cyclists - 1, Dolan - 0 Jesus Christ Almighty! If I were a jackass and an asshole like you, that is exactly what I would have said too! |
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