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Michael J. Vandeman Supports The Direct Pollution of The DelicateUpper Troposphere and Lower Stratosphere
On Feb 3, 2:16*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:34:42 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 1, 8:42*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:03:43 -0800 (PST), mike wrote: Mike Vandeman; I don't mean to sound like an ass, but what the hell does your ("pure habitat") have to do with my winter training? Probably nothing. Ever hear of a "signature"? It's on every one of my posts. If you ever get a chance, come up to Northern Ontario in the spring time and honk your car horn at the first moose you see on/near the road. I don't own a car. How do you get to the airport to attend "Lectures Given at International Environmental Conferences"? Walk? Interestingly, there are some airports that one can walk to. I walked to the Adelaide, Australia airport from where I was staying.San Diego's airport is within walking distance of downtown. I'm sure there are lots of others. Only greedy people who have no concern for the enviroment use air travel. They know full well that jets dump pollution directly in the upper troposphere and lower stratusphere. Next time take a sailboat. "By 2050, carbon-dioxide emissions from airliners are expected to grow two to 10 times the 1992 level, thanks to increasing air traffic, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report co- authored byDr. Penner. By then, aircraft emissions will have risen to 5 percent of the cause of global warming, IPCC says. New research suggests the problem could be even bigger. "Contrails can be called a cause of warming and definitely need to be considered in climate-change models," says Patrick Minnis, an atmospheric scientist at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., part of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration." ""Aviation's impact on the environment could be immense. Jet engines directly emit greenhouse gases by burning kerosene." |
Michael J. Vandeman Supports The Direct Pollution of The Delicate Upper Troposphere and Lower Stratosphere
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:45:36 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
wrote: On Feb 3, 2:16*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:34:42 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 1, 8:42*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:03:43 -0800 (PST), mike wrote: Mike Vandeman; I don't mean to sound like an ass, but what the hell does your ("pure habitat") have to do with my winter training? Probably nothing. Ever hear of a "signature"? It's on every one of my posts. If you ever get a chance, come up to Northern Ontario in the spring time and honk your car horn at the first moose you see on/near the road. I don't own a car. How do you get to the airport to attend "Lectures Given at International Environmental Conferences"? Walk? Interestingly, there are some airports that one can walk to. I walked to the Adelaide, Australia airport from where I was staying.San Diego's airport is within walking distance of downtown. I'm sure there are lots of others. Only greedy people who have no concern for the enviroment use air travel. They know full well that jets dump pollution directly in the upper troposphere and lower stratusphere. Next time take a sailboat. "By 2050, carbon-dioxide emissions from airliners are expected to grow two to 10 times the 1992 level, thanks to increasing air traffic, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report co- authored byDr. Penner. By then, aircraft emissions will have risen to 5 percent of the cause of global warming, IPCC says. New research suggests the problem could be even bigger. "Contrails can be called a cause of warming and definitely need to be considered in climate-change models," says Patrick Minnis, an atmospheric scientist at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., part of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration." ""Aviation's impact on the environment could be immense. Jet engines directly emit greenhouse gases by burning kerosene." Have you ever flown in an airplane, hypocrite? -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
Michael J. Vandeman Supports The Direct Pollution of The DelicateUpper Troposphere and Lower Stratosphere
On Feb 3, 8:17*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:45:36 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 3, 2:16*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:34:42 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 1, 8:42*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:03:43 -0800 (PST), mike wrote: Mike Vandeman; I don't mean to sound like an ass, but what the hell does your ("pure habitat") have to do with my winter training? Probably nothing. Ever hear of a "signature"? It's on every one of my posts. If you ever get a chance, come up to Northern Ontario in the spring time and honk your car horn at the first moose you see on/near the road. I don't own a car. How do you get to the airport to attend "Lectures Given at International Environmental Conferences"? Walk? Interestingly, there are some airports that one can walk to. I walked to the Adelaide, Australia airport from where I was staying.San Diego's airport is within walking distance of downtown. I'm sure there are lots of others. Only greedy people who have no concern for the enviroment use air travel. They know full well that jets dump pollution directly in the upper troposphere and lower stratusphere. Next time take a sailboat. "By 2050, carbon-dioxide emissions from airliners are expected to grow two to 10 times the 1992 level, thanks to increasing air traffic, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report co- authored byDr. Penner. By then, aircraft emissions will have risen to 5 percent of the cause of global warming, IPCC says. New research suggests the problem could be even bigger. "Contrails can be called a cause of warming and definitely need to be considered in climate-change models," says Patrick Minnis, an atmospheric scientist at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., part of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration." ""Aviation's impact on the environment could be immense. Jet engines directly emit greenhouse gases by burning kerosene." Have you ever flown in an airplane, hypocrite? NO, I never have so calling me a hypocrite is a LIE. YOU are the hypocrite for using a form of travel that is damaging to the planet when you could be going by SAILBOAT or using conference calling. |
Michael J. Vandeman Supports The Direct Pollution of The Delicate Upper Troposphere and Lower Stratosphere
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:24:38 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
wrote: On Feb 3, 8:17*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:45:36 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 3, 2:16*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:34:42 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 1, 8:42*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:03:43 -0800 (PST), mike wrote: Mike Vandeman; I don't mean to sound like an ass, but what the hell does your ("pure habitat") have to do with my winter training? Probably nothing. Ever hear of a "signature"? It's on every one of my posts. If you ever get a chance, come up to Northern Ontario in the spring time and honk your car horn at the first moose you see on/near the road. I don't own a car. How do you get to the airport to attend "Lectures Given at International Environmental Conferences"? Walk? Interestingly, there are some airports that one can walk to. I walked to the Adelaide, Australia airport from where I was staying.San Diego's airport is within walking distance of downtown. I'm sure there are lots of others. Only greedy people who have no concern for the enviroment use air travel. They know full well that jets dump pollution directly in the upper troposphere and lower stratusphere. Next time take a sailboat. "By 2050, carbon-dioxide emissions from airliners are expected to grow two to 10 times the 1992 level, thanks to increasing air traffic, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report co- authored byDr. Penner. By then, aircraft emissions will have risen to 5 percent of the cause of global warming, IPCC says. New research suggests the problem could be even bigger. "Contrails can be called a cause of warming and definitely need to be considered in climate-change models," says Patrick Minnis, an atmospheric scientist at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., part of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration." ""Aviation's impact on the environment could be immense. Jet engines directly emit greenhouse gases by burning kerosene." Have you ever flown in an airplane, hypocrite? NO, I never have so calling me a hypocrite is a LIE. I guess you've never ridden in a motor vehicle, huh, hypocrite? YOU are the hypocrite for using a form of travel that is damaging to the planet when you could be going by SAILBOAT or using conference calling. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
Michael J. Vandeman Supports The Direct Pollution of The DelicateUpper Troposphere and Lower Stratosphere
It seems counter intuitive to have people flying to an environmental
conference. Maybe you could push for a more distributed conference, with local groups getting together to teleconference with other groups around the world. It would preserve local face-to-face interaction that reinforces the community aspect, but allow a global audience for lectures (as well as more flexible timing via recorded playback). VoIP (video and/or voice) technology could enable discussions of large size. I believe Focus The Nation got together a webcast on the 31st to many groups across the nation. Shouldn't be too hard do it several times a day to a smaller audience. If it's all about making sacrifices to preserve our life support systems, then why not lead by example? |
Michael J. Vandeman Supports The Direct Pollution of The DelicateUpper Troposphere and Lower Stratosphere
On Feb 4, 11:58*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:24:38 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 3, 8:17*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:45:36 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 3, 2:16*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:34:42 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 1, 8:42*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:03:43 -0800 (PST), mike wrote: Mike Vandeman; I don't mean to sound like an ass, but what the hell does your ("pure habitat") have to do with my winter training? Probably nothing. Ever hear of a "signature"? It's on every one of my posts. If you ever get a chance, come up to Northern Ontario in the spring time and honk your car horn at the first moose you see on/near the road. I don't own a car. How do you get to the airport to attend "Lectures Given at International Environmental Conferences"? Walk? Interestingly, there are some airports that one can walk to. I walked to the Adelaide, Australia airport from where I was staying.San Diego's airport is within walking distance of downtown. I'm sure there are lots of others. Only greedy people who have no concern for the enviroment use air travel. They know full well that jets dump pollution directly in the upper troposphere and lower stratusphere. Next time take a sailboat. "By 2050, carbon-dioxide emissions from airliners are expected to grow two to 10 times the 1992 level, thanks to increasing air traffic, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report co- authored byDr. Penner. By then, aircraft emissions will have risen to 5 percent of the cause of global warming, IPCC says. New research suggests the problem could be even bigger. "Contrails can be called a cause of warming and definitely need to be considered in climate-change models," says Patrick Minnis, an atmospheric scientist at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., part of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration." ""Aviation's impact on the environment could be immense. Jet engines directly emit greenhouse gases by burning kerosene." Have you ever flown in an airplane, hypocrite? NO, I never have so calling me a hypocrite is a LIE. I guess you've never ridden in a motor vehicle, huh, hypocrite? I drive them all the time but that doesn't make me a hypocrite because I'm not speaking out against environmental damage like YOU DO. I can drive, fly, burn raw gas in a barrel in my back yard, dump motor oil down the sewer and or any number of things that damage the planet. While some those actions may even be against the law, it would never make me a hypocrite because I don't go making speaches at international environmental conferences. It however makes you a liar and a fake. Only selfish people fly on jets when they could be taking a SAILBOAT. |
Michael J. Vandeman - hypocritical troll
On Feb 5, 11:02*am, "JP" wrote:
"Bill Sornson" wrote in message ... wrote: It seems counter intuitive to have people flying to an environmental conference. Maybe you could push for a more distributed conference, with local groups getting together to teleconference with other groups around the world. It would preserve local face-to-face interaction that reinforces the community aspect, but allow a global audience for lectures (as well as more flexible timing via recorded playback). VoIP (video and/or voice) technology could enable discussions of large size. I believe Focus The Nation got together a webcast on the 31st to many groups across the nation. Shouldn't be too hard do it several times a day to a smaller audience. If it's all about making sacrifices to preserve our life support systems, then why not lead by example? ROTFL *Great stuff! *ROTFL Pul-eeze. He's a troll hiding behind an environmental banner. He's got no real interest in the environment. He's got no legitimate credentials. He's done no legitimate research. As millions of acres and the wilderness and wildlife thereon are destroyed by mining and drilling and development he rants about the destructive effects of eighteen inch wide singletrack. The only good example he'll make is when his remains become compost. Until them he is quite useless.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That dirty ******* Mike Vanderman...I knew it all along. One of them there hippo-crits!!!! lol... No kidding...we all know Vander****te talks nothing but figures...and liars figure and figures lie...He's a liar. All his posts, still no facts all opinions. |
Michael J. Vandeman Supports The Direct Pollution of The DelicateUpper Troposphere and Lower Stratosphere
On Feb 4, 11:58*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:24:38 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 3, 8:17*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:45:36 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 3, 2:16*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:34:42 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane wrote: On Feb 1, 8:42*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 05:03:43 -0800 (PST), mike wrote: Mike Vandeman; I don't mean to sound like an ass, but what the hell does your ("pure habitat") have to do with my winter training? Probably nothing. Ever hear of a "signature"? It's on every one of my posts. If you ever get a chance, come up to Northern Ontario in the spring time and honk your car horn at the first moose you see on/near the road. I don't own a car. How do you get to the airport to attend "Lectures Given at International Environmental Conferences"? Walk? Interestingly, there are some airports that one can walk to. I walked to the Adelaide, Australia airport from where I was staying.San Diego's airport is within walking distance of downtown. I'm sure there are lots of others. Only greedy people who have no concern for the enviroment use air travel. They know full well that jets dump pollution directly in the upper troposphere and lower stratusphere. Next time take a sailboat. "By 2050, carbon-dioxide emissions from airliners are expected to grow two to 10 times the 1992 level, thanks to increasing air traffic, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report co- authored byDr. Penner. By then, aircraft emissions will have risen to 5 percent of the cause of global warming, IPCC says. New research suggests the problem could be even bigger. "Contrails can be called a cause of warming and definitely need to be considered in climate-change models," says Patrick Minnis, an atmospheric scientist at Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., part of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration." ""Aviation's impact on the environment could be immense. Jet engines directly emit greenhouse gases by burning kerosene." Have you ever flown in an airplane, hypocrite? NO, I never have so calling me a hypocrite is a LIE. I guess you've never ridden in a motor vehicle, huh, hypocrite? YOU are the hypocrite for using a form of travel that is damaging to the planet when you could be going by SAILBOAT or using conference calling. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mikey If we wanted your expert opinion...we would ask it regarding your specialty...what is that now besides being a true asshole...I believe it is dietary? ? ? |
Michael J. Vandeman Supports The Direct Pollution of The Delicate Upper Troposphere and Lower Stratosphere
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:31:44 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: It seems counter intuitive to have people flying to an environmental conference. Maybe you could push for a more distributed conference, with local groups getting together to teleconference with other groups around the world. It would preserve local face-to-face interaction that reinforces the community aspect, but allow a global audience for lectures (as well as more flexible timing via recorded playback). VoIP (video and/or voice) technology could enable discussions of large size. I believe Focus The Nation got together a webcast on the 31st to many groups across the nation. Shouldn't be too hard do it several times a day to a smaller audience. If it's all about making sacrifices to preserve our life support systems, then why not lead by example? I have always made that suggestion, of course. As soon as the technology is available & affordable, and conference organizers want to do it, it will happen. Video would present privacy problems. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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