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[email protected] June 1st 05 03:27 AM

Grand Tour dominance- last ten years
 
The recent discussions about team dominance got me to look back at the
last ten years. USPS has been the dominant GT team of this period,
followed by ONCE/Liberty Seguros, although Italian registered teams
have been the most successful overall. The Italians have won a third of
all the GTs by dominating their own race and with Pantani's one TdF
win. The Spanish hang in there with 6 Vuelta wins and Indurain's last
TdF win. Heras is top Vuelta hombre with 3 wins. Armstrong
singlehandedly carries the American flag, his 6 wins are the total
American wins and of course he rules the roost with his TDF totals. The
French, other than Jaja's Vuelta win, are not on the page.

(Sorry it's a long post, not sure how to format tables here)

All Grand Tours (Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, Vuelta a Espana)
1995-2004. The 2005 Giro is not included.

Number of wins and % of total wins during this period

Rider Nationality
Italian 9, 30%
Spanish 7, 23%
American 6, 20%
Swiss 3, 10%
German 2, 7%
French 1, 3%
Danish 1, 3%
Russian 1, 3%

Team Registration
Italian 11, 37%
Spanish 9, 30%
American 7, 23%
German 3, 10%

Team
USPS 7, 23%
ONCE/Liberty Seguros 5, 17%
Saeco 3, 10%
Mercatone Uno 3, 10%
Telekom 3, 10%
Kelme 2, 7%
Banesto 1, 3%
Festina 1, 3%
Index Alexia 1, 3%
Lampre 1, 3%
Mapei 1, 3%
Panaria 1, 3%
Polti 1, 3%

Individual Rider
Armstrong 6, 20%
Heras 3, 10%
Gotti 2, 7%
Pantani 2, 7%
Simoni 2, 7%
Ullrich 2, 7%
Zulle 2, 7%
Casero 1, 3%
Cunego 1, 3%
Garzelli 1, 3%
Gonzalez 1, 3%
Indurain 1, 3%
Jalabert 1, 3%
Olano 1, 3%
Riis 1, 3%
Rominger 1, 3%
Savoldelli 1, 3%
Tonkov 1, 3%

And now, just the Giro d' Italia

Rider Nationality
Italian 8, 80%
Spanish 0, 0%
American 0, 0%
Swiss 1, 10%
German 0, 0%
French 0, 0%
Danish 0, 0%
Russian 1, 10%

Team Registration
Italian 10, 100%
Spanish 0, 0%
American 0, 0%
German 0, 0%

Team
USPS 0, 0%
ONCE/Liberty Seguros 0, 0%
Saeco 3, 30%
Mercatone Uno 2, 20%
Telekom 0, 0%
Kelme 0, 0%
Banesto 0, 0%
Festina 0, 0%
Index Alexia 1, 9%
Lampre 1, 10%
Mapei 1, 10%
Panaria 1, 10%
Polti 1, 10%

Individual Rider

Gotti 2, 18%
Simoni 2, 18%
Cunego 1, 9%
Garzelli 1, 9%
Pantani 1, 9%
Rominger 1, 9%
Savoldelli 1, 9%
Tonkov 1, 9%
Armstrong 0, 0%
Casero 0, 0%
Gonzalez 0, 0%
Heras 0, 0%
Indurain 0, 0%
Jalabert 0, 0%
Olano 0, 0%
Riis 0, 0%
Ullrich 0, 0%
Zulle 0, 0%

Next, just the Tour de France

Rider Nationality
Italian 1, 10%
Spanish 1, 10%
American 6, 60%
Swiss 0, 0%
German 1, 10%
French 0, 0%
Danish 1, 10%
Russian 0, 0%

Team Registration
Italian 1, 10%
Spanish 1, 10%
American 6, 60%
German 2, 20%

Team
USPS 6, 60%
ONCE/Liberty Seguros 0, 0%
Saeco 0, 0%
Mercatone Uno 1, 10%
Telekom 2, 20%
Kelme 0, 0%
Banesto 1, 10%
Festina 0, 0%
Index Alexia 0, 0%
Lampre 0, 0%
Mapei 0, 0%
Panaria 0, 0%
Polti 0, 0%

Individual Rider
Armstrong 6, 60%
Indurain 1, 10%
Pantani 1, 10%
Riis 1, 10%
Ullrich 1, 10%
Casero 0, 0%
Cunego 0, 0%
Garzelli 0, 0%
Gonzalez 0, 0%
Gotti 0, 0%
Heras 0, 0%
Jalabert 0, 0%
Olano 0, 0%
Rominger 0, 0%
Savoldelli 0, 0%
Simoni 0, 0%
Tonkov 0, 0%
Zulle 0, 0%

And finally, the Vuelta a Espana

Rider Nationality
Italian 0, 0%
Spanish 6, 60%
American 0, 0%
Swiss 2, 20%
German 1, 10%
French 1, 10%
Danish 0, 0%
Russian 0, 0%

Team Registration
Italian 0, 0%
Spanish 8, 80%
American 1, 10%
German 1, 10%

Team
USPS 1, 10%
ONCE/Liberty Seguros 5, 50%
Saeco 0, 0%
Mercatone Uno 0, 0%
Telekom 1, 10%
Kelme 2, 20%
Banesto 0, 0%
Festina 1, 10%
Index Alexia 0, 0%
Lampre 0, 0%
Mapei 0, 0%
Panaria 0, 0%
Polti 0, 0%

Individual Rider

Heras 3, 30%
Zulle 2, 20%
Casero 1, 10%
Gonzalez 1, 10%
Jalabert 1, 10%
Olano 1, 10%
Ullrich 1, 10%
Armstrong 0, 0%
Cunego 0, 0%
Garzelli 0, 0%
Gotti 0, 0%
Indurain 0, 0%
Pantani 0, 0%
Riis 0, 0%
Rominger 0, 0%
Savoldelli 0, 0%
Simoni 0, 0%
Tonkov 0, 0%


Jenko June 1st 05 07:33 AM


wrote:
ONCE/Liberty Seguros 5, 17%
Banesto 1, 3%


When Olano won the Vuelta, he was riding for Banesto, so make that 4
and 2.

Jenko


[email protected] June 1st 05 08:02 PM

Interesting information. Thank you for publishing it.


sonarrat June 1st 05 10:10 PM

wrote:

And finally, the Vuelta a Espana

Rider Nationality
Italian 0, 0%
Spanish 6, 60%
American 0, 0%
Swiss 2, 20%
German 1, 10%
French 1, 10%
Danish 0, 0%
Russian 0, 0%

Team Registration
Italian 0, 0%
Spanish 8, 80%
American 1, 10%
German 1, 10%

Team
USPS 1, 10%


Heras '03

ONCE/Liberty Seguros 5, 50%


Zulle '96 and '97, Jalabert '95, Heras '04

Saeco 0, 0%
Mercatone Uno 0, 0%
Telekom 1, 10%


Ullrich '99

Kelme 2, 20%


Heras '00, Casero '01, Gonzalez '02

Banesto 0, 0%


Olano '98

Festina 1, 10%


None

Index Alexia 0, 0%
Lampre 0, 0%
Mapei 0, 0%
Panaria 0, 0%
Polti 0, 0%


Philip W. Moore, Jr. June 1st 05 11:46 PM

.. Armstrong
singlehandedly carries the American flag, his 6 wins are the total
American wins and of course he rules the roost with his TDF totals.


Ooohh, better watch it now. Lemond will tell you that if it hadn't been for
that hunting accident in 1987 he'd be whipping Armstrong's ass, especially
in Lance's last 6 TfF's. And he'll accuse you of doping, after which time
Greg'd start bitching about Hinault, and making fun of Indurain's hair.



Philip W. Moore, Jr. June 1st 05 11:52 PM


None

Index Alexia 0, 0%
Lampre 0, 0%
Mapei 0, 0%
Panaria 0, 0%
Polti 0, 0%


It's not really fair to put Mapei in that group. Sure, they expected Bugno
to win the Giro for them, and they got a top ten finish in the Tour, but
they were never really serious about anything but the classics. Regarding
Polti, it's funny to remember how much **** Virenque used to talk, but he's
never won a grant tour.



[email protected] June 2nd 05 12:34 AM



sonarrat wrote:
wrote:

And finally, the Vuelta a Espana



Festina 1, 10%


None


Angel Casero (Festina) 2001 Vuelta winner
Festina's only GT win
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...aseropod21.jpg


[email protected] June 2nd 05 12:35 AM

Thanks for catching that


[email protected] June 2nd 05 12:37 AM

I didn't put them in the group and leave out others, i just included
all teams that won at least one GT in this time period


Kurgan Gringioni June 2nd 05 01:23 AM



Philip W. Moore, Jr. wrote:
None

Index Alexia 0, 0%
Lampre 0, 0%
Mapei 0, 0%
Panaria 0, 0%
Polti 0, 0%


It's not really fair to put Mapei in that group. Sure, they expected Bugno
to win the Giro for them, and they got a top ten finish in the Tour, but
they were never really serious about anything but the classics.





Dumbass -

They were very serious about trying to win a GT - the head of Mapei,
Giorgio Squinzi, stated it as a primary goal. They hired various GC
riders, but never got the right guys.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.



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