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Alycidon March 16th 16 09:08 AM

Scum yet to wriggle in court
 
"Lorry driver Philip Beadle is due at Camberwell Green Magistrates Court this morning for a preliminary hearing.

He is accused of causing death by careless or inconsiderate driving in the crash, which happened just before 8am on May 28 last year. Beadle has not yet entered a plea to the charge."

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3204236.html

[email protected] September 10th 16 05:58 AM

Scum yet to wriggle in court
 
I would suggest you research the facts before you mention the driver under the title of "scum yet to wriggle in court".

Cyclists are also blameworthy but they seem to never be at fault as it doesn't make for such good newspaper headlines.

If you cannot find enough facts to give an objective opinion I would suggest you attend court and listen to all the facts and make an "informed judgement" - I'm certain you won't think the same when you have.

Alycidon September 10th 16 06:15 AM

Scum yet to wriggle in court
 
On Saturday, 10 September 2016 05:58:31 UTC+1, wrote:
I would suggest you research the facts before you mention the driver under the title of "scum yet to wriggle in court".

Cyclists are also blameworthy but they seem to never be at fault as it doesn't make for such good newspaper headlines.

If you cannot find enough facts to give an objective opinion I would suggest you attend court and listen to all the facts and make an "informed judgement" - I'm certain you won't think the same when you have.


He is in court this month - watch this space.


[email protected] October 5th 16 07:33 AM

Scum yet to wriggle in court
 
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3358386.html

MrCheerful October 5th 16 11:18 AM

Scum yet to wriggle in court
 
On 05/10/2016 07:33, wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3358386.html


Why would anyone cycle up the nearside of a truck ?

MrCheerful October 5th 16 11:21 AM

Scum yet to wriggle in court
 
On 05/10/2016 11:18, MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/10/2016 07:33, wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3358386.html



Why would anyone cycle up the nearside of a truck ?


Don't cyclists ever read the papers? Huld anyone, especially a
professional such as the deceased, be so incredibly short sighted and
stupid as to ride up the nearside of any vehicle, but especially a
lorry, at a junction, it just beggars belief that anyone above the age
of a small child could do it.

Rob Morley October 5th 16 04:13 PM

Scum yet to wriggle in court
 
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 23:33:33 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3358386.html

That's bad news - a verdict that implies "he's a nice chap" and "it was
just one of those things". These "accidents" are not accidental, they
are the result of a driver taking insufficient care. "He checked his
mirrors normally" says to me that he just glanced at his mirrors.


jnugent October 5th 16 05:48 PM

Scum yet to wriggle in court
 
On 05/10/2016 17:13, Rob Morley wrote:

wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3358386.html

That's bad news - a verdict that implies "he's a nice chap" and "it was
just one of those things". These "accidents" are not accidental, they
are the result of a driver taking insufficient care. "He checked his
mirrors normally" says to me that he just glanced at his mirrors.


One assumes that you were not only in court during the whole of the
trial but were also a live eye-witness to the inciden itself.

Otherwise, how could you know better than the jury (as it appears you
must, if you are right)?

QUOTE:
1. A jury at Blackfriars crown court unanimously found Mr Beadle, from
Colchester in Essex, not guilty...

The driver sat down and wiped away tears after being acquitted,
embracing friends and family as he left the dock.

2. Judge Raj Shetty told him: "Thank you very much for the way in which
you have conducted yourself during the trial."
ENDQUOTE

Woud you REALLY want a show-trial result, wrecking the lives of this
man's family, just for vindictive reasons?

Surely not?






Nick[_4_] October 5th 16 06:30 PM

Scum yet to wriggle in court
 
On 05/10/2016 16:13, Rob Morley wrote:
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 23:33:33 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3358386.html

That's bad news - a verdict that implies "he's a nice chap" and "it was
just one of those things". These "accidents" are not accidental, they
are the result of a driver taking insufficient care. "He checked his
mirrors normally" says to me that he just glanced at his mirrors.

He glanced in his mirrors, I would be surprised if he even did that.

He pulled straight left across a bus lane. I did that yesterday in a car
you have to be careful.

A very bad verdict. Its like saying you can't expect drivers to check
every-time.

MrCheerful October 5th 16 08:43 PM

Scum yet to wriggle in court
 
On 05/10/2016 18:30, Nick wrote:
On 05/10/2016 16:13, Rob Morley wrote:
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 23:33:33 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3358386.html


That's bad news - a verdict that implies "he's a nice chap" and "it was
just one of those things". These "accidents" are not accidental, they
are the result of a driver taking insufficient care. "He checked his
mirrors normally" says to me that he just glanced at his mirrors.

He glanced in his mirrors, I would be surprised if he even did that.

He pulled straight left across a bus lane. I did that yesterday in a car
you have to be careful.

A very bad verdict. Its like saying you can't expect drivers to check
every-time.


You certainly cannot expect cyclists to use any sense, that would be
against their creed.


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