Safety:- Cycling on the pavement v cycling on the road.
 

Seem to remember a post/thread in here, over the last couple of
days, about safety in pavement cycling, in which it was stated that
there were statistics to back up the claim that cycling on the road was
six times safer than on the pavement. Would anyone have a link to this
site ?
Having a bit of a discussion with a chap who wants
to implement a pressure group with the stated aim of banning cyclists
from the road and restricting them to the pavement. He seems to think
the pavement is safer to cycle on than the road.
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Safety:- Cycling on the pavement v cycling on the road.
 

"soup" wrote in message
k...
Having a bit of a discussion with a chap who wants to implement a pressure
group with the stated aim of banning cyclists from the road and
restricting them to the pavement.

I think pedestrians would complain about that a lot!
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Safety:- Cycling on the pavement v cycling on the road.
 

soup wrote:
Having a bit of a discussion with a chap who
wants to implement a pressure group with the stated aim of banning
cyclists from the road and restricting them to the pavement. He seems
to think the pavement is safer to cycle on than the road.

Don't discuss - shoot.
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www.wetwo.co.uk

Safety:- Cycling on the pavement v cycling on the road.
 

in message , soup
') wrote:

Seem to remember a post/thread in here, over the last couple of
days, about safety in pavement cycling, in which it was stated that
there were statistics to back up the claim that cycling on the road was
six times safer than on the pavement. Would anyone have a link to this
site ?

There are dozens. Here are some places to start:

http://www.bicyclinglife.com/Library/riskfactors.htm
http://www.toronto.ca/transportation...icle/index.htm
http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/infrastructure.html

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Safety:- Cycling on the pavement v cycling on the road.
 

soup whizzed past me shouting
Seem to remember a post/thread in here, over the last couple of
days, about safety in pavement cycling, in which it was stated that
there were statistics to back up the claim that cycling on the road was
six times safer than on the pavement. Would anyone have a link to this
site ? Having a bit of a discussion with a chap
who wants to implement a pressure group with the stated aim of banning
cyclists from the road and restricting them to the pavement. He seems
to think the pavement is safer to cycle on than the road.

It applies to cycleways as well as pavements.
Here's an incomplete list of cycleway summaries with links to some of
the original papers:

http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/research.html

Surprisingly, the accident rate on pavements was no higher than on
cycleways. That's probably because pavement cyclists go so slowly: if
regular commuter cyclists like me were forced to use pavements the
accident rate would rocket.

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Sue ]:(:)

Why aren't we advocating regular retests for motorists?
It's obvious a lot of them would fail and that'd solve the road congestion problem too.

Safety:- Cycling on the pavement v cycling on the road.
 

Sue White wrote:
soup whizzed past me shouting
Seem to remember a post/thread in here, over the last couple of
days, about safety in pavement cycling, in which it was stated that
there were statistics to back up the claim that cycling on the road
was six times safer than on the pavement. Would anyone have a link to
this site ? Having a bit of a discussion with a
chap who wants to implement a pressure group with the stated aim of
banning cyclists from the road and restricting them to the pavement.
He seems to think the pavement is safer to cycle on than the road.

It applies to cycleways as well as pavements.
Here's an incomplete list of cycleway summaries with links to some of
the original papers:

http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/research.html

Surprisingly, the accident rate on pavements was no higher than on
cycleways. That's probably because pavement cyclists go so slowly: if
regular commuter cyclists like me were forced to use pavements the
accident rate would rocket.

Why would it?

--
Matt B

Safety:- Cycling on the pavement v cycling on the road.
 

"Matt B" wrote in message
...

Surprisingly, the accident rate on pavements was no higher than on
cycleways. That's probably because pavement cyclists go so slowly: if
regular commuter cyclists like me were forced to use pavements the
accident rate would rocket.

Why would it?

An analogy would be closing motorways and "A" roads so that all commuter
traffic is forced onto narrow country lanes. The main problem would be
drastically increased journey times but I'd bet there would be a few more
accidents than usual.

Safety:- Cycling on the pavement v cycling on the road.
 

In k,
soup tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:

Having a bit of a discussion with a chap who
wants to implement a pressure group with the stated aim of banning
cyclists from the road and restricting them to the pavement. He
seems to think the pavement is safer to cycle on than the road.


He's an imbecile. Hit him with a shovel until he's had enough, then hit him
some more.

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http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
You can't have ham!

Safety:- Cycling on the pavement v cycling on the road.
 

soup wrote:
Would anyone have a link to this

Thanks all, he seems to have moved on now to "lycra louts" using the
roads as race tracks. He doesn't seem to be
listening/discussing/arguing at all he merely makes a statement then
when you try to engage him in discussion he ignores that and moves onto
another statement, ah well "the ignorant[1] are always among us".

[1] not so much ignorant as won't think (even if he comes to a different
conclusion I wouldn't mind, it's this refusal to look into things that
gets me) but I couldn't think of a phrase with 'won't think' in it
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Safety:- Cycling on the pavement v cycling on the road.
 

soup wrote on 03/04/2007 09:04 +0100:
soup wrote:
Would anyone have a link to this

Thanks all, he seems to have moved on now to "lycra louts" using the
roads as race tracks. He doesn't seem to be
listening/discussing/arguing at all he merely makes a statement then
when you try to engage him in discussion he ignores that and moves onto
another statement, ah well "the ignorant[1] are always among us".


You could take the opposite approach of winding him up until his
pronouncements are so laughable no-one takes him seriously which will
defuse him equally well. Or you could invite him to come on a bike ride
with you ;-)


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Tony

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