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Ravi April 14th 05 09:27 PM

Why isn't there 'Sharing the Road with Bicyclists' on DMV Papers?
 
Hi,
I do not remember any where in the DMV Handbook or driving test,
seeing anything that advocates proper treatment of Bicyclists on the
Road. Why not these Bicycle Advocacy Organizations push for such an
inclusion - that way, atleast it is embedded in the young minds that
bicyclists are also legit road users.

my 2 cents,
+ravi

Matt O'Toole April 14th 05 11:27 PM

Ravi wrote:

Hi,
I do not remember any where in the DMV Handbook or driving test,
seeing anything that advocates proper treatment of Bicyclists on the
Road.


It depends on which state you're in. Some have as much info as can be expected,
while others apparently do not. Which state are you talking about? Since
you're posting to ba.bicycles I assume you're in CA. Last time I looked, there
was "as much info as can be expected" in both the drivers' manual and the
written test. You might want to read it again.

Keep in mind there's a lot to cover in too few pages. For the message to sink
in at all, it can't be too comprehensive or complicated. Same with the test.

Why not these Bicycle Advocacy Organizations push for such an
inclusion -


Of course they do.

Matt O.



Pat April 15th 05 01:10 AM



: Hi,
: I do not remember any where in the DMV Handbook or driving test,
: seeing anything that advocates proper treatment of Bicyclists on the
: Road. Why not these Bicycle Advocacy Organizations push for such an
: inclusion - that way, atleast it is embedded in the young minds that
: bicyclists are also legit road users.
:
: my 2 cents,
: +ravi

it's all in the Texas drivers' handbook. You should not assume that because
it isn't done a certain way where you live that it applies to every place.

Pat in TX



max April 15th 05 03:59 AM

"Pat" wrote:

: Hi,
: I do not remember any where in the DMV Handbook or driving test,
: seeing anything that advocates proper treatment of Bicyclists on the
: Road. Why not these Bicycle Advocacy Organizations push for such an
: inclusion - that way, atleast it is embedded in the young minds that
: bicyclists are also legit road users.
:
: my 2 cents,
: +ravi

it's all in the Texas drivers' handbook. You should not assume that because
it isn't done a certain way where you live that it applies to every place.

Pat in TX


The WORD in Illinois:
http://www.sos.state.il.us/publications/rr/rr_chap09.html

and from Da Ma
http://www.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/bikemap/road.html

..max

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blink


Michael J Rodney Sr. April 15th 05 09:28 AM

Florida's DMV handbook describes a bicycle as being a legitimate vehicle.
Although not covered in expansive detail, there are a few paragraphs that
cover the duties of the motorist (in respect to bicycles) and the duties of
the bicyclist when on the road.



H M Leary April 15th 05 02:30 PM

In article ,
"Michael J Rodney Sr." wrote:

Florida's DMV handbook describes a bicycle as being a legitimate vehicle.
Although not covered in expansive detail, there are a few paragraphs that
cover the duties of the motorist (in respect to bicycles) and the duties of
the bicyclist when on the road.


The first two things that a newly liscensed driver forgets:

1. Driving is a privelege granted by the state.

2. A bicycle is a vehicle.

HAND

Matthew April 15th 05 03:02 PM


Ravi wrote in message
news:1113510249.519443@sj-nntpcache-5...
Hi,
I do not remember any where in the DMV Handbook or driving test,
seeing anything that advocates proper treatment of Bicyclists on the
Road. Why not these Bicycle Advocacy Organizations push for such an
inclusion - that way, atleast it is embedded in the young minds that
bicyclists are also legit road users.

But what if they are successful? How long would it take a legislator
to propose licensing bicycle riders?

FWIW in my neck of the woods I see far more irresponsible cycling than
driving.

Matthew



Ravi April 15th 05 05:26 PM

Matt O'Toole wrote:
Ravi wrote:


Hi,
I do not remember any where in the DMV Handbook or driving test,
seeing anything that advocates proper treatment of Bicyclists on the
Road.



It depends on which state you're in. Some have as much info as can be expected,
while others apparently do not. Which state are you talking about? Since
you're posting to ba.bicycles I assume you're in CA. Last time I looked, there
was "as much info as can be expected" in both the drivers' manual and the
written test. You might want to read it again.

Keep in mind there's a lot to cover in too few pages. For the message to sink
in at all, it can't be too comprehensive or complicated. Same with the test.


my bad. I should have googled properly - found it on CA DMV handbook...
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs55thru57.htm#bike

also DMV is per state so, each state has to make a call as to how much
info they want to put in - so as to keep the book size relatively
managable...

pardon my err....

thanks,
ravi


Why not these Bicycle Advocacy Organizations push for such an
inclusion -



Of course they do.

Matt O.



Ravi April 15th 05 05:30 PM

Pat wrote:

: Hi,
: I do not remember any where in the DMV Handbook or driving test,
: seeing anything that advocates proper treatment of Bicyclists on the
: Road. Why not these Bicycle Advocacy Organizations push for such an
: inclusion - that way, atleast it is embedded in the young minds that
: bicyclists are also legit road users.
:
: my 2 cents,
: +ravi

it's all in the Texas drivers' handbook. You should not assume that because
it isn't done a certain way where you live that it applies to every place.


apologies. my bad. looked at
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/DLhandbook.pdf, on page 9-7, it
actually explains the cases where a bicycle can take a full lane.... it
is more comprehensive than CA ;)

again my bad,
+ravi

Pat in TX



Ravi April 15th 05 05:34 PM

H M Leary wrote:

In article ,
"Michael J Rodney Sr." wrote:


Florida's DMV handbook describes a bicycle as being a legitimate vehicle.
Although not covered in expansive detail, there are a few paragraphs that
cover the duties of the motorist (in respect to bicycles) and the duties of
the bicyclist when on the road.



The first two things that a newly liscensed driver forgets:

1. Driving is a privelege granted by the state.


yes, I agree, most drivers tend to forget the privilege part. If
everyone understands this, the roads would be far safe for cyclists. but
then i am dreaming.

+ravi

2. A bicycle is a vehicle.

HAND



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