windbreaks for bikes?
 

Did anyone think of putting small windbreaks on
the handlebar just like they have on MCs and
snowmobiles? Insulation, gloves, and
non-smoking would be the first steps but why
stop at that? I often feel the cold wind even
tho not biking especially fast. If the hands
(and feet) are cold, it would seem so is the
entire body....

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On 12/10/2017 12:10 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Did anyone think of putting small windbreaks on
the handlebar just like they have on MCs and
snowmobiles? Insulation, gloves, and
non-smoking would be the first steps but why
stop at that? I often feel the cold wind even
tho not biking especially fast. If the hands
(and feet) are cold, it would seem so is the
entire body....

Yes, those have been commercially available for decades. See
http://www.zzipper.com/

I tried one for a few years for my winter commutes, long ago. I think it
did keep me warmer, and I think it made me a little faster.

But it was noisy, giving a rumbling sound over any bumps in the road
(and we have many). It made the bike a little less portable for carrying
up and down stairs, when I worried about damaging it. The mounting
brackets were sort of flat, wide aluminum hooks that velcroed onto the
brake lever hoods, and they were a bit uncomfortable for me.

In my experience, the benefits weren't great and the detriments weren't
great, but I stopped using it because I didn't think the benefits were
worth the slight hassle.

--
- Frank Krygowski

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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:48:48 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
On 12/10/2017 12:10 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Did anyone think of putting small windbreaks on the handlebar just
like they have on MCs and snowmobiles? Insulation, gloves, and
non-smoking would be the first steps but why stop at that? I often
feel the cold wind even tho not biking especially fast. If the hands
(and feet) are cold, it would seem so is the entire body....

Yes, those have been commercially available for decades. See
http://www.zzipper.com/

I tried one for a few years for my winter commutes, long ago. I think
it did keep me warmer, and I think it made me a little faster.

But it was noisy, giving a rumbling sound over any bumps in the road
(and we have many). It made the bike a little less portable for
carrying up and down stairs, when I worried about damaging it. The
mounting brackets were sort of flat, wide aluminum hooks that velcroed
onto the brake lever hoods, and they were a bit uncomfortable for me.

In my experience, the benefits weren't great and the detriments
weren't great, but I stopped using it because I didn't think the
benefits were worth the slight hassle.

Get a Dutch velomobile.

I'm only a little facetious about that. A friend recently got one and
has been delighted with it. It's fast, comfortable and especially the
latter on rainy or cold days. The downside is they are very expensive
and practically take as much room as a small car to store.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=rei+...obile&ie=UTF-8

The pictured fairings are oversized n noisy as said: geometry

Fairings only on the bars

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On 12/10/2017 11:10 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Did anyone think of putting small windbreaks on
the handlebar just like they have on MCs and
snowmobiles? Insulation, gloves, and
non-smoking would be the first steps but why
stop at that? I often feel the cold wind even
tho not biking especially fast. If the hands
(and feet) are cold, it would seem so is the
entire body....


http://www.barmitts.com/
we sell these

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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ski mitts may not be long distance friendly ....'like' 100 sneakers

Pogies on kayak paddle shafts are standard cold weather gear

I have a complete line of clothing for Alaska bring part to Daytona for the 24 hours. Warm at noon, sun sets behind the stands. The warm to cold was a surprise for many. DUH was in the forecast.

After I had pulled out a hoodie 300PM, a nylon wind breaker4PM, specs evacing,

I went into the pack for a new pair of ski gloves ..

causing the loudspeaker to erupt in pain: HE'S GOT SKI GLOVES !

I was told the area was scoured for brown cotton gloves leaving 0000 of anything of cold weather value

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AMuzi wrote:

http://www.barmitts.com/ we sell these

They look a bit bulky and claustrophobic but
I suppose they are good when you can only have
a light glove because you must fiddle with
shifters (and brakes?).

The other ones suggested, at
http://www.zzipper.com is a bit overkill.
Not the entire "cockpit" area has to be
covered, rather something like a 1.5 l PET
bottle cut in half, and placed where the
hands are on the handlebar.

In general, I guess the best benefit from this
would be either riding in/over snow, or very
fast, and at both ventures, shifting is
essential...

But one could easily think of my scenario as
well, moderate speed, winter in the city (but
not snow on the roads)...

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On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 9:41:58 AM UTC-5, Emanuel Berg wrote:
AMuzi wrote:

http://www.barmitts.com/ we sell these

They look a bit bulky and claustrophobic but
I suppose they are good when you can only have
a light glove because you must fiddle with
shifters (and brakes?).

The other ones suggested, at
http://www.zzipper.com is a bit overkill.
Not the entire "cockpit" area has to be
covered, rather something like a 1.5 l PET
bottle cut in half, and placed where the
hands are on the handlebar.

In general, I guess the best benefit from this
would be either riding in/over snow, or very
fast, and at both ventures, shifting is
essential...

But one could easily think of my scenario as
well, moderate speed, winter in the city (but
not snow on the roads)...

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Bar-mitts are designed to fit over the brake lever AND the shifter. They are very useful and they block the wind which means the mitts/gloves one wears don't have to be so thick as they do if you don't use bar-mitts.

Cheers

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Sir Ridesalot wrote:

Bar-mitts are designed to fit over the brake
lever AND the shifter. They are very useful
and they block the wind which means the
mitts/gloves one wears don't have to be so
thick as they do if you don't use bar-mitts.

Amazing but true!

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On 11/12/17 17:40, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

snip

Bar-mitts are designed to fit over the brake lever AND the shifter.
They are very useful and they block the wind which means the
mitts/gloves one wears don't have to be so thick as they do if you
don't use bar-mitts.

I ride with HotPogs[1] over the winter and they are good down to about
-5 then thin gloves are needed, I suspect because brake levers/bars
become too cold. Wind proof yes, water proof as well. They also keep
the rain off the legs a bit, an unexpected benefit. The big point
though is simply accessing keys/work passes/crossings without the need
to remove gloves.


[1] https://www.hotpog.co.uk/adventurer-...in-bike-pogies

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Tosspot wrote:

I ride with HotPogs

They look pretty much like the one AMuzi
suggested, perhaps even bigger!

I get it this is for the bike with all the
shifting and brake levers that has to be
included and not separated from the hand.

This is more what I had in mind tho

http://www.dootalk.com/reports/images/tech_rox_12.jpg

And yes, you will of course have heavy
insulation of the handle as well as
big mittens!

(Not that I am an owner of a snowmobile.
My family on my father's side had a couple but
the sure didn't look anything like that!
Now I think most of them has left this world
anyway. And the scooters, as well.)

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On 12/12/17 12:46, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Tosspot wrote:

I ride with HotPogs

They look pretty much like the one AMuzi suggested, perhaps even
bigger!

I get it this is for the bike with all the shifting and brake levers
that has to be included and not separated from the hand.

This is more what I had in mind tho

http://www.dootalk.com/reports/images/tech_rox_12.jpg

And yes, you will of course have heavy insulation of the handle as
well as big mittens!

(Not that I am an owner of a snowmobile. My family on my father's
side had a couple but the sure didn't look anything like that! Now I
think most of them has left this world anyway. And the scooters, as
well.)

Is there no way to simply use scooter guards. E.g.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073P3JH7F

I *think* both handlebar diameters are an inch, or close enough for a
coke can to fix.

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Tosspot wrote:

Is there no way to simply use scooter guards.
[...] I *think* both handlebar diameters are
an inch, or close enough for a coke can
to fix.

I didn't know they were sold separately but of
course they are. Yes, that should be possible
not to mention it would look awesome as well :)
I think they have different prices in the
scooter world tho :(

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On 12/12/17 20:21, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Tosspot wrote:

Is there no way to simply use scooter guards.
[...] I *think* both handlebar diameters are
an inch, or close enough for a coke can
to fix.

I didn't know they were sold separately but of
course they are. Yes, that should be possible
not to mention it would look awesome as well :)
I think they have different prices in the
scooter world tho :(

Just remember the red ones are faster :-)

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Tosspot wrote:

Just remember the red ones are faster :-)

I remember seeing a boxing match, it was
Shane Mosley vs. De La Hoya I think, and
Emanuel Steward, who was the expert
commentating, immediately said when Mosley
entered the ring that he was "dressed for
speed", because instead of the trunky boxing
boots in black or some other dark, bland color,
he had smaller shoes which were bright blue or
pink or something like that. Which are much
faster colors!

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