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Joerg[_2_] September 24th 17 06:02 PM

Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
 
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?
Orange flavor would be great but doesn't matter much, as long as it's
not any funky or excessively sweet flavor. No artificial sweeteners.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

somebody[_2_] September 26th 17 09:58 AM

Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
 
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?


Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those
fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste. Just
read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of
benign non-reasons to buy it.


I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.


Joerg[_2_] September 26th 17 03:31 PM

Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
 
On 2017-09-26 01:58, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?


Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those
fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste. Just
read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of
benign non-reasons to buy it.


I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.


Meaning it reliably prevents cramps and bonks? IOW the potassium is the
only ingredient in those drinks that a longhaul cyclist really needs? I
didn't know that but it sure would be nice.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

JBeattie September 26th 17 05:24 PM

Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
 
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 7:31:49 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 01:58, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?

Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those
fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste. Just
read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of
benign non-reasons to buy it.


I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.


Meaning it reliably prevents cramps and bonks? IOW the potassium is the
only ingredient in those drinks that a longhaul cyclist really needs? I
didn't know that but it sure would be nice.


No, you bonk because you're out of glycogen and not electrolytes. Drink more beer. Take a Snickers bar. Keep up your energy so you can ride with the mountain lions. https://tinyurl.com/ya8vqq55

-- Jay Beattie.




[email protected] September 26th 17 06:26 PM

Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
 
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 9:25:00 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 7:31:49 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 01:58, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?

Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those
fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste. Just
read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of
benign non-reasons to buy it.

I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.


Meaning it reliably prevents cramps and bonks? IOW the potassium is the
only ingredient in those drinks that a longhaul cyclist really needs? I
didn't know that but it sure would be nice.


No, you bonk because you're out of glycogen and not electrolytes. Drink more beer. Take a Snickers bar. Keep up your energy so you can ride with the mountain lions. https://tinyurl.com/ya8vqq55


I agree but you still have to maintain your electrolytes. Just drink a Red Bull and that will be taken care of.

Joerg[_2_] September 26th 17 07:05 PM

Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
 
On 2017-09-26 10:26, wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 9:25:00 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 7:31:49 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 01:58, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher
(90-serving canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to
pay around $25 in bulk, now it's around $40 with shipping.
We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more
reasonably priced?

Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or
three of those fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for
additional minerals to taste. Just read the ingredients on
the original powder to find a long list of benign non-reasons
to buy it.

I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.


Meaning it reliably prevents cramps and bonks? IOW the potassium
is the only ingredient in those drinks that a longhaul cyclist
really needs? I didn't know that but it sure would be nice.


No, you bonk because you're out of glycogen and not electrolytes.
Drink more beer. ...



Hence I repurposed my old office thermos and use it to carry homemade
IPA along on some long trips in the boonies where there are no pubs. No
Snickers bars though, my wife makes homemade bars with the good stuff in
there. Lots of nuts and bacon bits, among many other things.

So far I bonked only once, way back after I started riding again.

Does anyone know this stuff?

https://www.vitamonk.com/products/fo...rolyte-formula

The price is right but unfortunately only pills. A bit low in magnesium
but I take those every day already because of back issues.


... Take a Snickers bar. Keep up your energy so you
can ride with the mountain lions. https://tinyurl.com/ya8vqq55



Cool. The only one we saw live didn't have a bike. But it took a
neighbor's dog :-(


I agree but you still have to maintain your electrolytes. Just drink
a Red Bull and that will be taken care of.


I prefer IPA :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Frank Krygowski[_4_] September 26th 17 07:09 PM

Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
 
On 9/26/2017 4:58 AM, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably priced?


Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those
fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste. Just
read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of
benign non-reasons to buy it.


I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.


I've done that for years on long and strenuous (for me) rides,
especially in the heat. I do think it helps.

But lately I've been plagued with cramps, either toward the end or hours
after such a ride. A few days ago, a nurse told me it sounded like a
potassium deficiency. I plan to try eating some high potassium foods for
a bit to see if it helps.


--
- Frank Krygowski

Joerg[_2_] September 26th 17 08:03 PM

Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
 
On 2017-09-26 11:09, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/26/2017 4:58 AM, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably
priced?

Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those
fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste.
Just
read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of
benign non-reasons to buy it.


I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.


I've done that for years on long and strenuous (for me) rides,
especially in the heat. I do think it helps.

But lately I've been plagued with cramps, either toward the end or hours
after such a ride. A few days ago, a nurse told me it sounded like a
potassium deficiency.



Take more of that supplement?


... I plan to try eating some high potassium foods for
a bit to see if it helps.


My sister says bananas are great. But I guess not when mountain bike
riding in hot weather. Plus you'll have to pack out the peels. And then
old Silver Hoof wants my bananas.

I wonder how much potassium a body needs when riding at a slightly
elevated heart rate for 4h. Ultima Replenisher has 250mg per serving.
Seems a lot but they say it's only 7% of daily recommened. Other
electrolyte powders contain less than 100mg per serving.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Doug Landau September 26th 17 08:22 PM

Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
 
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:03:06 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 11:09, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/26/2017 4:58 AM, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably
priced?

Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those
fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste.
Just
read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of
benign non-reasons to buy it.

I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.


I've done that for years on long and strenuous (for me) rides,
especially in the heat. I do think it helps.

But lately I've been plagued with cramps, either toward the end or hours
after such a ride. A few days ago, a nurse told me it sounded like a
potassium deficiency.



Take more of that supplement?


... I plan to try eating some high potassium foods for
a bit to see if it helps.


My sister says bananas are great. But I guess not when mountain bike
riding in hot weather. Plus you'll have to pack out the peels. And then
old Silver Hoof wants my bananas.


You do NOT have to pack out the peels. Try it sometime and you will see.


Joerg[_2_] September 26th 17 08:47 PM

Good alternative to Ultima Replenisher electrolyte?
 
On 2017-09-26 12:22, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 12:03:06 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 11:09, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/26/2017 4:58 AM, somebody wrote:
On 25 Sep 2017 19:03:42 GMT, Robert Latest
wrote:

Joerg wrote:
For whatever reason the price for Ultima Replenisher (90-serving
canisters) got jacked up, big time. We used to pay around $25 in bulk,
now it's around $40 with shipping. We go through a lot.

Are there alternatives of comparable quality but more reasonably
priced?

Yes. Half a teaspoon of table salt per liter. Add two or three of those
fizzy nutrition supplement tablets for additional minerals to taste.
Just
read the ingredients on the original powder to find a long list of
benign non-reasons to buy it.

I use a potassium-based salt substitute. Cheap and it works.

I've done that for years on long and strenuous (for me) rides,
especially in the heat. I do think it helps.

But lately I've been plagued with cramps, either toward the end or hours
after such a ride. A few days ago, a nurse told me it sounded like a
potassium deficiency.



Take more of that supplement?


... I plan to try eating some high potassium foods for
a bit to see if it helps.


My sister says bananas are great. But I guess not when mountain bike
riding in hot weather. Plus you'll have to pack out the peels. And then
old Silver Hoof wants my bananas.


You do NOT have to pack out the peels. Try it sometime and you will see.


You eat the peels? In our area it is very frowned upon by rangers to
chuck them into the bush.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/


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