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Hi I'm going to build some new wheels for my bike.
I'm getting Velocity A23 rims and I have Dura-Ace 7900 hubs but my
question is what spokes do I use
Looking at maybe DT Swiss 13/15g DB champion or is there a better DB
steel spoke not into BLACK spokes

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On 4/05/2011 10:09 PM, Chris Taylor wrote:
Hi I'm going to build some new wheels for my bike.
I'm getting Velocity A23 rims and I have Dura-Ace 7900 hubs but my
question is what spokes do I use
Looking at maybe DT Swiss 13/15g DB champion or is there a better DB
steel spoke not into BLACK spokes


That's the biggest problem in building custom wheels getting the correct
spokes and spoke length right in the first place when ordering.

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"Rob" wrote in message ...
On 4/05/2011 10:09 PM, Chris Taylor wrote:
Hi I'm going to build some new wheels for my bike.
I'm getting Velocity A23 rims and I have Dura-Ace 7900 hubs but my
question is what spokes do I use
Looking at maybe DT Swiss 13/15g DB champion or is there a better DB
steel spoke not into BLACK spokes


That's the biggest problem in building custom wheels getting the correct spokes and
spoke length right in the first place when ordering.

The late and great Sheldon Brown to the rescue, eg:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/spocalc.htm

SN.

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On May 4, 10:09*pm, Chris Taylor wrote:
Hi I'm going to build some new wheels for my bike.
I'm getting Velocity A23 rims and I have Dura-Ace 7900 hubs but my
question is what spokes do I use
Looking at maybe DT Swiss 13/15g DB champion or is there a better DB
steel spoke not into BLACK spokes

You might find problems getting the 13 ga spokes through the spoke
holes in the DA hubs.

I lace most all my wheels with DT competition 14/15/14 spokes on the
rear drive side, and DT revolution 14/16/14 spokes everywhere else.

Sapim spokes are also quite nice to use.

Cheers,

Suzy

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On 6/05/2011 1:40 PM, Shirley Nott wrote:

"Rob" wrote in message
...
On 4/05/2011 10:09 PM, Chris Taylor wrote:
Hi I'm going to build some new wheels for my bike.
I'm getting Velocity A23 rims and I have Dura-Ace 7900 hubs but my
question is what spokes do I use
Looking at maybe DT Swiss 13/15g DB champion or is there a better DB
steel spoke not into BLACK spokes


That's the biggest problem in building custom wheels getting the
correct spokes and spoke length right in the first place when ordering.

The late and great Sheldon Brown to the rescue, eg:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/spocalc.htm

SN.


Some combinations don't tally even if you use that or other spoke
calculators.

I don't think that has those rims mentioned.

I get my wheels sets built for that vary reason. Choose my rims, hubs
and spoke type then let a specialised shop make them. At least there round.



r

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On Fri, 06 May 2011 12:59:43 +1000, Rob wrote:

That's the biggest problem in building custom wheels getting the correct
spokes and spoke length right in the first place when ordering.

I've no idea if it's been updated any time recently, but "damon rinard"
used to be the search term to find a spoke length calculator for wheels
based on hubs and rims. I think DT Swiss have a version tucked away
somewhere as well.

I find it easiest to walk into the LBS and ask for the hub and rim combo
of my choice, then ask them to work out the spokes. That said, my last
spoke purchase was a stupid wanky Shimano job for the stupid wanky Shimano
wheels that came with my roadie. But I don't want to toss them out because
of one broken spoke!

--
Dave Hughes -
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack
of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses"
- Elwood Blues

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Dave Hughes wrote:

I find it easiest to walk into the LBS and ask for the hub and rim combo
of my choice, then ask them to work out the spokes.

Agree with that x 2.

Notwithstanding reading Jobst Brandt's book, all Sheldon's articles and an
incredibly kind and patient lesson from SuzyJ on wheel building, my first
efforts were crap.

When I got better the wheels stayed in shape for a sufficiently long time
that I then sort of lost the memory of the sequence of how to do it right
(that sequence matters kiddo and you ain't gonna get it from no book
learning).

Last set of wheels I got (Fulcrum zeros) the wheels were machine built and
then checked and stress relieved by my LBS - two years of serious riding
among the potholes that pass for roads in Sydney and they are still true in
all 4 planes.

Some things really are better left to machines and experts (in the sense of
people that do it all the time and inherently reliable devices).

Have a wheel truing stand that should go free to a good home - you need one
Suzy or any one else?

Best, andrew

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On Tue, 10 May 2011 02:11:29 +1000, Andrew Price wrote:

Notwithstanding reading Jobst Brandt's book, all Sheldon's articles and
an incredibly kind and patient lesson from SuzyJ on wheel building, my
first efforts were crap.

Actually I prefer to *build* the wheels myself, and I have the still
straight wheels to show I can do this. But I can't be arsed trying to work
out exactly what lengths I need for a given combo, particularly when the
LBS has a shelf full of different lengths.

Though there was a time when the spokes were wrong, and it wasn't obvious
until it was mostly laced. Good thing I was lacing it in the workshop so I
could just swap them for the right ones.

A cordless drill or screwdriver makes the initial tightening really easy.
Set it to a low torque, tighten until the threads just stop showing, then
twiddle away with the spoke key. NFI how long it takes, because there
tends to be a couple of beers and a TV involved.

--
Dave Hughes -
Real children don't go hoppity-skip unless they are on drugs
- Terry Pratchett, Hogfather