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Geoff Lock[_2_] September 24th 11 07:22 AM

Is this a good deal?
 
Fellow offered me a brand new (well, it looked brand new) full carbon
frame + carbon forks + stem for $700?

No brand name and I was only able to look from about 4-5m away. :(

Alan Erskine[_3_] September 24th 11 08:12 AM

Is this a good deal?
 
On 24/09/2011 4:22 PM, Geoff Lock wrote:
Fellow offered me a brand new (well, it looked brand new) full carbon
frame + carbon forks + stem for $700?

No brand name and I was only able to look from about 4-5m away. :(


I'd call the cops if I were offered something like that for such a low
price.

Steve Ball[_3_] September 25th 11 04:36 AM

Is this a good deal?
 
Alan Erskine:

On 24/09/2011 4:22 PM, Geoff Lock wrote:
Fellow offered me a brand new (well, it looked brand new) full carbon
frame + carbon forks + stem for $700?

No brand name and I was only able to look from about 4-5m away. :(


I'd call the cops if I were offered something like that for such a low
price.


http://tinyurl.com/6y5fgk8

Work out what you're paying for the frame.
--
Steve = : ^ )


Geoff Lock[_2_] September 25th 11 05:22 AM

Is this a good deal?
 
On 24/09/2011 5:12 PM, Alan Erskine wrote:
On 24/09/2011 4:22 PM, Geoff Lock wrote:
Fellow offered me a brand new (well, it looked brand new) full carbon
frame + carbon forks + stem for $700?

No brand name and I was only able to look from about 4-5m away. :(


I'd call the cops if I were offered something like that for such a low
price.


Hm, not hot. Known the bloke for quite a number of years and he's a
straight-shooting fellow.

Geoff Lock[_2_] September 25th 11 07:40 AM

Is this a good deal?
 
On 25/09/2011 1:36 PM, Steve Ball wrote:
Alan Erskine:

On 24/09/2011 4:22 PM, Geoff Lock wrote:
Fellow offered me a brand new (well, it looked brand new) full carbon
frame + carbon forks + stem for $700?

No brand name and I was only able to look from about 4-5m away. :(


I'd call the cops if I were offered something like that for such a low
price.


http://tinyurl.com/6y5fgk8

Work out what you're paying for the frame.


That's the thing. I tried to do a pricing of what, such a complete road
bike would cost me when I bolt on all the missing bits thereby giving an
idea whether the frame was a good deal or not. I got all confused becos
of the various component prices.

For example, I can find el cheapo complete wheels for $200 or decent
ones for $800 or funky carbon ones for $4000!!

Similarly, the gear set pricings are just as confusing :(

I guess it is what I can afford to put on such a frame, eh?


Geoff Lock[_2_] September 25th 11 08:17 AM

Is this a good deal?
 
On 25/09/2011 3:18 PM, Blue Heeler wrote:
Geoff Lock wrote:

On 24/09/2011 5:12 PM, Alan Erskine wrote:
On 24/09/2011 4:22 PM, Geoff Lock wrote:
Fellow offered me a brand new (well, it looked brand new) full
carbon frame + carbon forks + stem for $700?


As a starting point unless you trust the guy to tell you that it has
had no accidents I'd pass.


Hm, like I told Alan Erskine, I have known the guy for quite a few years
so I am reasonably certain he is not gonna sell me a pig in a poke.

Price wise, it is at the high end for what is basically an
uncredentialled Taiwanese frame that cost about $60US out the factory
door in lots of 500. Obviously you pay a bit more given thhat it is (a)
here and (b) you are only buying 1 of them,


Bloody hell!!! US$60!!! Now I am assuming that is just for the frame and
even if he was throwing in the forks and the stem, AUD$700 IS high.

Have a look at the "no-name" carbon frames on Flea bay and you get the
idea. BTW there are "Hasa" frames there at present for around $250 +
$50 post, I mentioon this because the Hasa and Cell frames I've looked
at previously were identical.


Thks for the tip, Bluey :)

I hasten to point out that I have nothing against a frame from Taiwan,
after all 99% of all bicycles on the road have a frame made in Taiwan,
including most of the so-called "superior" marques.


Please don't ask me how I know but I do know that some of the "superior"
marques you alluded to, were looking at China, although there appeared
to be the usual problems with mould setups for full carbon frames, not
to mention intellectual property issues _ahem_. :)

The other thing you might look for is "end of model" stuff - a couple
of months back you could buy 2011 model Apollo Giro frames (both carbon
and alloy versions) for $150 + post as they made a few to many and sold
them off cheaply to dealers, who then stripped the 105 groupset and
other good gear and then punted the bare frames.


Hm, good point about the "end of model". The frame which I saw looked
funky with that slightly curved top tube, so I am thinking it is
reasonably current (1-2 years old?)

The frame looks kinda like this

http://www.lookcycle.com/en/us/route...ium-frame.html

I seriously doubt if the frame I saw is an OEM LOOK frame but, come on,
the design is funky, eh? :) Also the stem on the no-name is nothing like
the one in the LOOK pic :) Plus no crankset and no seat post, of cos.


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