Pedal reflectors
 

Wacko Jacko of the moderated group says the subject of pedal reflectors is
"controversial" and used this justification for delaying someone's post.

Why?

Are we allowed to discuss pedal reflectors here?

I think they can only be a good thing along with anything else that makes a
bicycle more visible at night.

Pedal reflectors
 

"Mr. Benn" wrote in message
...
Wacko Jacko of the moderated group says the subject of pedal reflectors is
"controversial" and used this justification for delaying someone's post.

Why?

Are we allowed to discuss pedal reflectors here?

I think they can only be a good thing along with anything else that makes
a bicycle more visible at night.

AIUI but IANAL they are also a legal requirement, at least after dark.
Although one of my bikes does not have them (Keo Look) and the other has
mini-clips fitted to the place where the front reflectors used to be (I had
to remove the reflectors to fit the clips) and the rear pedal reflectors
fell off. Apart from not riding much after dark, if I do ride after dark I
wear a hi viz jacket, a standard red light, a flashing red light, and a
constant blue light, and a white light on the front. I don't seem to have
difficulty being seen. Even so, there might be someone like JMS who spotting
me with no pedal reflectors might try to knock me off to "teach me a
lesson".

The only thing that really does concern me though is that if some ****
knocks me off, my compo might get reduced if their lawyer finds out that I
had no pedal reflectors.

Pedal reflectors
 

On 19/10/10 16:34, Mr. Benn wrote:
Wacko Jacko of the moderated group says the subject of pedal reflectors
is "controversial" and used this justification for delaying someone's post.

Why?

Are we allowed to discuss pedal reflectors here?

Yep. We can discuss French pension plans if you want.

I think they can only be a good thing along with anything else that
makes a bicycle more visible at night.

Now you and I might think that's a good idea, but legislating it might
not be.

Pedal reflectors
 

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Mr. Benn wrote:

Wacko Jacko of the moderated group says the subject of pedal
reflectors is "controversial" and used this justification for
delaying someone's post.

Why?

Because the better sorts of pedals for sale in the UK are almost
impossible to make comply with UK law, and it is almost impossible to
comply with UK law regarding pedal reflectors when riding a recumbent.

It would be rather like there being a law mandating a rigid roof on
every car - it might have a safety benefit, it would render a large
number of cars illegal. Such a law would be controversial, I expect.

regards, Ian SMith
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Pedal reflectors
 

In message
"mileburner" wrote:


"Mr. Benn" wrote in message
...
Wacko Jacko of the moderated group says the subject of pedal reflectors is
"controversial" and used this justification for delaying someone's post.

Why?

Are we allowed to discuss pedal reflectors here?

I think they can only be a good thing along with anything else that makes
a bicycle more visible at night.

AIUI but IANAL they are also a legal requirement, at least after dark.

For bikes made after a cetain date only.


[snip]



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Gwyn

Pedal reflectors
 

Gwyn wrote:
In message
"mileburner" wrote:


"Mr. Benn" wrote in message
...
Wacko Jacko of the moderated group says the subject of pedal
reflectors is "controversial" and used this justification for
delaying someone's post.

Why?

Are we allowed to discuss pedal reflectors here?

I think they can only be a good thing along with anything else that
makes a bicycle more visible at night.

AIUI but IANAL they are also a legal requirement, at least after
dark.

For bikes made after a cetain date only.

I will sleep well tonight then. Neither of my bikes are date stamped.

Pedal reflectors
 

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Ian Smith wrote:

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Mr. Benn wrote:

Wacko Jacko of the moderated group says the subject of pedal
reflectors is "controversial" and used this justification for
delaying someone's post.

Why?

Because the better sorts of pedals for sale in the UK are almost
impossible to make comply with UK law, and it is almost impossible to
comply with UK law regarding pedal reflectors when riding a recumbent.

You are right. But couldn't we see this as an engineering problem? As in,
how could we (or rather, manufacturers or enterprising accessory makers)
make them reflective? How about putting a reflective jacket round the axle
between the pedal and the crank? Or a little but highly reflective peg on
the outside? Or making all cleated shoes (because by 'the better sorts of
pedals' i assume you mean ones with those confounded clippy arrangements
on) reflective front and back as a substitute? And, er, fitting recumbents
with reflective windmills? Any brighter ideas?

It would be rather like there being a law mandating a rigid roof on
every car - it might have a safety benefit, it would render a large
number of cars illegal. Such a law would be controversial, I expect.

I don't keep up with urcm, but that sounds like a rubbish justification.

tom

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Pedal reflectors
 

On 19/10/2010 16:34, Mr. Benn wrote:
Wacko Jacko of the moderated group says the subject of pedal reflectors
is "controversial" and used this justification for delaying someone's post.


Moderated groups on the whole are ****.

Why?

Are we allowed to discuss pedal reflectors here?

I think they can only be a good thing along with anything else that
makes a bicycle more visible at night.

Pedal reflectors
 

X5b8cpMN wrote:

On 19/10/2010 16:34, Mr. Benn wrote:
Wacko Jacko of the moderated group says the subject of pedal reflectors
is "controversial" and used this justification for delaying someone's
post.


Moderated groups on the whole are ****.

Not generally. E.g. the moderated physics group has serious discussions, and
no "Teens sucking cock!!" or "EINSTEIN WAS WRONG" type items, which is good.
But this seems weird - if there is controversy on pedal reflectors, why not
discuss that? How good a moderated ng is depends on the moderators.
--
Dieter Britz (dieterhansbritzatgmail.com)

Pedal reflectors
 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:02:25 +0200, Dieter Britz wrote:
X5b8cpMN wrote:

On 19/10/2010 16:34, Mr. Benn wrote:
Wacko Jacko of the moderated group says the subject of pedal reflectors
is "controversial" and used this justification for delaying someone's
post.


Moderated groups on the whole are ****.

Not generally. E.g. the moderated physics group has serious discussions, and
no "Teens sucking cock!!" or "EINSTEIN WAS WRONG" type items, which is good.
But this seems weird - if there is controversy on pedal reflectors, why not
discuss that? How good a moderated ng is depends on the moderators.

Umm, it is being discussed. Certain people are misrepresenting the
situation.

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