Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart why didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that the steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum frame would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of an inch max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much lower conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these things from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the frame on fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple mils and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water leaking down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open part of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can easily be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you could get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor Ted with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into flakes with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted unaware that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and Sheldon.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart why didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that the steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum frame would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of an inch max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much lower conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these things from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the frame on fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple mils and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water leaking down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open part of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can easily be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you could get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor Ted with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into flakes with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted unaware that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and Sheldon.

How does the title of this thread relate to the subject?

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

wrote in message
...
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart why
didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that the
steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum frame
would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of an inch
max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much lower
conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum
having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel
and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these things
from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the frame on
fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple mils
and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water leaking
down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open part
of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can easily
be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you could
get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor Ted
with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into flakes
with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted unaware
that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and Sheldon.

As usual; you've painted a very different picture to what was actually said.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:31:51 PM UTC-8, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart why didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that the steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum frame would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of an inch max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much lower conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these things from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the frame on fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple mils and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water leaking down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open part of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can easily be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you could get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor Ted with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into flakes with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted unaware that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and Sheldon.

How does the title of this thread relate to the subject?

Doug, are you unaware that Frank is a mechanical engineer who could have readily calculated the difference in expansion rates across an inch and an half adjustable cup, known the difference in the coefficient of expansion the lack of heat conduction across the thread barrier and the extreme difficulty in getting an aluminum frame to heat more than the steel bottom bracket cup?

If you do not understand these and these lunatic suggestions to Ted on how to "loosen" his bottom bracket I don't have to wonder why YOU don't have any curiosity about it.

I can only conclude that Frank was getting a good laugh at everyone else but me and Andrew. Luckily Ted seemed to take it all in good humor.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:34:37 PM UTC-8, Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:
wrote in message
...
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart why
didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that the
steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum frame
would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of an inch
max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much lower
conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum
having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel
and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these things
from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the frame on
fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple mils
and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water leaking
down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open part
of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can easily
be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you could
get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor Ted
with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into flakes
with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted unaware
that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and Sheldon.

As usual; you've painted a very different picture to what was actually said.

And as usual you don't even remember your last postings. Why don't you go hit your bike with a hammer.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

wrote in message
...
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:34:37 PM UTC-8, Benderthe.evilrobot
wrote:
wrote in message
...
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart
why
didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that the
steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum
frame
would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of an
inch
max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the steel
cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much
lower
conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum
having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel
and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these
things
from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the frame on
fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple
mils
and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water
leaking
down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open
part
of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can
easily
be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you
could
get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor
Ted
with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into
flakes
with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted
unaware
that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and Sheldon.

As usual; you've painted a very different picture to what was actually
said.

And as usual you don't even remember your last postings. Why don't you go
hit your bike with a hammer.

Why not - you've already hit your head with one.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On 1/12/2017 3:31 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart why didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that the steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum frame would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of an inch max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much lower conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these things from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the frame on fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple mils and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water leaking down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open part of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can easily be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you could get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor Ted with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into flakes with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted unaware that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and Sheldon.

How does the title of this thread relate to the subject?


Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She
looks half-dead."

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:49:12 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:31:51 PM UTC-8, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart why didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that the steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum frame would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of an inch max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much lower conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these things from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the frame on fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple mils and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water leaking down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open part of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can easily be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you could get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor Ted with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into flakes with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted unaware that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and Sheldon.

How does the title of this thread relate to the subject?

Doug, are you unaware that Frank is a mechanical engineer who could have readily calculated the difference in expansion rates across an inch and an half adjustable cup, known the difference in the coefficient of expansion the lack of heat conduction across the thread barrier and the extreme difficulty in getting an aluminum frame to heat more than the steel bottom bracket cup?

I am aware of that, Tom! I am also aware that Frank likes to debate and is good at it and tends to not play all his cards at once. He might well have ran the calculation and then not disclosed the #s, thus far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxcJp2VQPU

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:00:13 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/12/2017 3:31 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

How does the title of this thread relate to the subject?


Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."

LOL! Post of the week!

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On 13/01/17 09:00, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/12/2017 3:31 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-8,
wrote:
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it
apart why didn't you explain and show the calculation that
demonstrated that the steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube
hung on an aluminum frame would have a difference in expansion of a
couple of thousandths of an inch max even if you COULD get the
aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much
lower conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with
aluminum having between four and six times the heat conduction of
hardened steel and there only being a 44% difference in expansion
rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these
things from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the
frame on fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple
mils and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from
water leaking down the seat tube and onto the threads that are
slightly in the open part of the seat tube and bottom bracket
interface, this expansion can easily be twice or more what the
expansion could ever achieve even if you could get the bottom bracket
significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor
Ted with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it
into flakes with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you
weren't Ted unaware that most of the help here isn't since the exit
of Jobst and Sheldon.

How does the title of this thread relate to the subject?


Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."


Which half?

--
JS

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On 1/12/2017 5:00 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/12/2017 3:31 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-8,
wrote:
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it
apart why didn't you explain and show the calculation that
demonstrated that the steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube
hung on an aluminum frame would have a difference in expansion of a
couple of thousandths of an inch max even if you COULD get the
aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much
lower conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with
aluminum having between four and six times the heat conduction of
hardened steel and there only being a 44% difference in expansion
rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these
things from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the
frame on fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple
mils and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from
water leaking down the seat tube and onto the threads that are
slightly in the open part of the seat tube and bottom bracket
interface, this expansion can easily be twice or more what the
expansion could ever achieve even if you could get the bottom bracket
significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor
Ted with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it
into flakes with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you
weren't Ted unaware that most of the help here isn't since the exit
of Jobst and Sheldon.

How does the title of this thread relate to the subject?


Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."

:-)


--
- Frank Krygowski

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On 1/12/2017 4:22 PM, wrote:
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart why didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that the steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum frame would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of an inch max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much lower conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these things from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the frame on fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple mils and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water leaking down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open part of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can easily be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you could get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor Ted with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into flakes with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted unaware that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and Sheldon.

Sorry, I didn't (and don't) find it all that interesting.

Anyway, if I were to try heating for the differential expansion, I
wouldn't do it the way you describe. And I wouldn't do it until trying
quite a few other techniques.

FWIW, I liked the Sheldon tool that Sir pointed out. And Blaster. With
a bench vise. But YMMV.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On 12/01/17 23:00, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/12/2017 3:31 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip

How does the title of this thread relate to the subject?


Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."

Door! ----

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

"Frank Krygowski" wrote in message
...
On 1/12/2017 4:22 PM, wrote:
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart
why didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that
the steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum
frame would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of
an inch max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the
steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much lower
conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum
having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel
and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these
things from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the
frame on fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple mils
and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water leaking
down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open
part of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can
easily be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you
could get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor Ted
with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into
flakes with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted
unaware that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and
Sheldon.

Sorry, I didn't (and don't) find it all that interesting.

Anyway, if I were to try heating for the differential expansion, I
wouldn't do it the way you describe. And I wouldn't do it until trying
quite a few other techniques.

Agreed - for me; heating it is pretty much a last resort.

Unlike Tom - I learn from my mistakes.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

AMuzi considered Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:00:13 -0600
the perfect time to write:

On 1/12/2017 3:31 PM, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Frank,

With all of this talk about heating the bottom bracket to get it apart why didn't you explain and show the calculation that demonstrated that the steel cup and the aluminum bottom bracket tube hung on an aluminum frame would have a difference in expansion of a couple of thousandths of an inch max even if you COULD get the aluminum to heat faster than the steel cup?

After all, if you blow hot air down there the steel cup with a much lower conduction rate would be getting warmer than the frame with aluminum having between four and six times the heat conduction of hardened steel and there only being a 44% difference in expansion rates to begin with.

This is something that's right up your alley while we had all these things from using a hair dryer to a welding torch trying to light the frame on fire.

Since an 80 C warming difference in expansion would only be a couple mils and what normally jams these cups in is rust expansion from water leaking down the seat tube and onto the threads that are slightly in the open part of the seat tube and bottom bracket interface, this expansion can easily be twice or more what the expansion could ever achieve even if you could get the bottom bracket significantly warmer than the cup.

Or where you sitting back and enjoying the show? This assault on poor Ted with everything from lighting his frame on fire to pounding it into flakes with a hammer was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted unaware that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and Sheldon.

How does the title of this thread relate to the subject?


Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She
looks half-dead."

Well, there's some good news, and some bad news.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:25:58 +1100, James wrote:
On 13/01/17 09:00, AMuzi wrote:

Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."


Which half?

I am not certain of that.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On 1/14/2017 11:01 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:25:58 +1100, James wrote:
On 13/01/17 09:00, AMuzi wrote:

Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."


Which half?

I am not certain of that.


But we know the velocity.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

AMuzi wrote in :

On 1/14/2017 11:01 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:25:58 +1100, James
wrote:
On 13/01/17 09:00, AMuzi wrote:

Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."


Which half?

I am not certain of that.

But we know the velocity.

Is it African or European?
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

Andrew Chaplin wrote:
AMuzi wrote in :

On 1/14/2017 11:01 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:25:58 +1100, James
wrote:
On 13/01/17 09:00, AMuzi wrote:

Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."


Which half?

I am not certain of that.

But we know the velocity.

Is it African or European?

Laden or unladen?

--
duane

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:34:30 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/14/2017 11:01 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:25:58 +1100, James
wrote:
On 13/01/17 09:00, AMuzi wrote:

Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."


Which half?

I am not certain of that.


But we know the velocity.

Good, but for some reason I can't locate the cat.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 4:54:55 PM UTC-5, Duane wrote:
Andrew Chaplin wrote:
AMuzi wrote in :

On 1/14/2017 11:01 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:25:58 +1100, James
wrote:
On 13/01/17 09:00, AMuzi wrote:

Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."


Which half?

I am not certain of that.

But we know the velocity.

Is it African or European?

Laden or unladen?

--
duane

Doesn't matter. Thread says "Curiosity killed the cat". However the next line should be "But satisfaction brought it back".

Cheers

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 19:38:53 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 4:54:55 PM UTC-5, Duane wrote:
Andrew Chaplin wrote:
AMuzi wrote in :

On 1/14/2017 11:01 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:25:58 +1100, James
wrote:
On 13/01/17 09:00, AMuzi wrote:

Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."


Which half?

I am not certain of that.

But we know the velocity.

Is it African or European?

Laden or unladen?

--
duane

Doesn't matter. Thread says "Curiosity killed the cat". However the next line should be "But satisfaction brought it back".

Cheers

But. Was the cat riding a bicycle?
--
cheers,

John B.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On 15/01/17 03:24, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:34:30 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
On 1/14/2017 11:01 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:25:58 +1100, James
wrote:
On 13/01/17 09:00, AMuzi wrote:

Long leadup to:

Mrs Schrodinger asked, "What have you done to the cat? She looks
half-dead."

Which half?

I am not certain of that.

But we know the velocity.

Good, but for some reason I can't locate the cat.

Don't panic, it got tangled up with me.

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:49:10 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:31:51 PM UTC-8, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 1:22:14 PM UTC-8, wrote:

....This assault on poor Ted with everything from lighting
his frame on fire to pounding it into flakes with a hammer
was pretty entertaining as long as you weren't Ted unaware
that most of the help here isn't since the exit of Jobst and
Sheldon.

How does the title of this thread relate to the subject?

If you do not understand these and these lunatic suggestions to
Ted on how to "loosen" his bottom bracket I don't have to
wonder why YOU don't have any curiosity about it.

I can only conclude that Frank was getting a good laugh at
everyone else but me and Andrew. Luckily Ted seemed to take it
all in good humor.

Well, some of the discussion was fairly obviously theoretical
(e.g., what chemical treatments that might deal with various
oxides), but the line between practical and hypoethetical
approaches wasn't always entirely clear--especially with heating.
I filtered it all with what seemed to be possible within my range
of skills and available tools. Don't know if that's evidence of
good humor, good thinking, or stubborness. Maybe a bit of each.

I did enjoy the inputs, and most of the exchanges. Thanks to all!

--
Ted Heise Bloomington, IN, USA

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:13:50 +0700, John B.
wrote:

But. Was the cat riding a bicycle?

My neighbor's cat used to love to ride on my bicycle. I had a pair of
nylon panniers that draped over the rack, so the cloth connecting them
made a solid platform that he could get his claws into. Whenever he
jumped up there, I'd take a few laps in the driveway. (I think he
would have gone travelling with me, but I was afraid to take him out
into traffic.)

Once I leaned the bike against the garage and went inside for quite a
while. When I came out again, Tiger was still sitting on the rack, so
I took him on another lap.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

Joy Beeson considered Sun, 15 Jan 2017
22:51:03 -0400 the perfect time to write:

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:13:50 +0700, John B.
wrote:

But. Was the cat riding a bicycle?

My neighbor's cat used to love to ride on my bicycle. I had a pair of
nylon panniers that draped over the rack, so the cloth connecting them
made a solid platform that he could get his claws into. Whenever he
jumped up there, I'd take a few laps in the driveway. (I think he
would have gone travelling with me, but I was afraid to take him out
into traffic.)

Once I leaned the bike against the garage and went inside for quite a
while. When I came out again, Tiger was still sitting on the rack, so
I took him on another lap.

We used to have a cat called Tiger, who delighted in traveling on the
parcel shelf in the back of our car (carpet on that, for him to cling
on to).
He'd sit there unmoving for ages, until we got caught in traffic, then
stand up, stretch elaborately, turn around, and lay down again, much
to the surprise of any other surrounding motorists, who'd assumed he
was a toy until he moved. We got used to kids pointing him out with
excitement to their amused parents, and on occasion even had to wind
down the window to inform them that yes, he really was a live cat, and
he liked to travel that way :)

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 5:55:53 PM UTC-8, Phil Lee wrote:
Joy Beeson considered Sun, 15 Jan 2017
22:51:03 -0400 the perfect time to write:

On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:13:50 +0700, John B.
wrote:

But. Was the cat riding a bicycle?

My neighbor's cat used to love to ride on my bicycle. I had a pair of
nylon panniers that draped over the rack, so the cloth connecting them
made a solid platform that he could get his claws into. Whenever he
jumped up there, I'd take a few laps in the driveway. (I think he
would have gone travelling with me, but I was afraid to take him out
into traffic.)

Once I leaned the bike against the garage and went inside for quite a
while. When I came out again, Tiger was still sitting on the rack, so
I took him on another lap.

We used to have a cat called Tiger, who delighted in traveling on the
parcel shelf in the back of our car (carpet on that, for him to cling
on to).
He'd sit there unmoving for ages, until we got caught in traffic, then
stand up, stretch elaborately, turn around, and lay down again, much
to the surprise of any other surrounding motorists, who'd assumed he
was a toy until he moved. We got used to kids pointing him out with
excitement to their amused parents, and on occasion even had to wind
down the window to inform them that yes, he really was a live cat, and
he liked to travel that way :)

Here's one riding on the handlebars of a harley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS2TLgQiqR0

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On 1/18/2017 8:55 PM, Phil Lee wrote:


We used to have a cat called Tiger, who delighted in traveling on the
parcel shelf in the back of our car (carpet on that, for him to cling
on to).
He'd sit there unmoving for ages, until we got caught in traffic, then
stand up, stretch elaborately, turn around, and lay down again, much
to the surprise of any other surrounding motorists, who'd assumed he
was a toy until he moved. We got used to kids pointing him out with
excitement to their amused parents, and on occasion even had to wind
down the window to inform them that yes, he really was a live cat, and
he liked to travel that way :)

Ah. Much nicer than the two cats belonging to my daughter and her
husband. When they moved back east from Portland, my wife and I had the
job of doing a 5 day epic drive in their Mustang with two cats yowling
in terror the entire way! :-( The things we do for our kids...


--
- Frank Krygowski

Curiosity Killed the Cat
 

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 8:32:30 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/18/2017 8:55 PM, Phil Lee wrote:


We used to have a cat called Tiger, who delighted in traveling on the
parcel shelf in the back of our car (carpet on that, for him to cling
on to).
He'd sit there unmoving for ages, until we got caught in traffic, then
stand up, stretch elaborately, turn around, and lay down again, much
to the surprise of any other surrounding motorists, who'd assumed he
was a toy until he moved. We got used to kids pointing him out with
excitement to their amused parents, and on occasion even had to wind
down the window to inform them that yes, he really was a live cat, and
he liked to travel that way :)

Ah. Much nicer than the two cats belonging to my daughter and her
husband. When they moved back east from Portland, my wife and I had the
job of doing a 5 day epic drive in their Mustang with two cats yowling
in terror the entire way! :-( The things we do for our kids...

If you were thinkin you coulda picked up some ganj while still in Portland, as soon as that **** started, blown a hit or two in their direction, and driven home in peace.