Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams
 

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Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams

Lisa Gray

October 12, 2011
INSPIRATIONAL ... Jamie Helme-Sagar at his school prom (photo
caption)

A teenager died after falling from his bike on a BMX track, the day
after his final A level exam.

James Ryan Helme-Sagar, 17, visited the track from his Dukinfield home
in June 2010.

He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries.

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams
 

On 10/14/2011 12:12 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...-a-level-exams


Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams

Lisa Gray

October 12, 2011
INSPIRATIONAL ... Jamie Helme-Sagar at his school prom (photo
caption)

A teenager died after falling from his bike on a BMX track, the day
after his final A level exam.

James Ryan Helme-Sagar, 17, visited the track from his Dukinfield home
in June 2010.

He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey:
Many sports are dangerous, even carrying a brush cutting
saw in the woods.

The question is, why are you posting this? This has NOTHING
to do with mountain biking on hiking trails. BMX, like
motorcross on which it's modeled, uses prepared circuit
tracks with spectator areas. Even the bicycles used
are very different from mountain bikes.

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams
 

On Oct 14, 10:35*am, VtSkier wrote:
On 10/14/2011 12:12 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:





http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...556_dukinfield...

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams

Lisa Gray

October 12, 2011
INSPIRATIONAL ... Jamie Helme-Sagar at his school prom (photo
caption)

A teenager died after falling from his bike on a BMX track, the day
after his final A level exam.

James Ryan Helme-Sagar, 17, visited the track from his Dukinfield home
in June 2010.

He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey:
Many sports are dangerous, even carrying a brush cutting
saw in the woods.

The question is, why are you posting this? This has NOTHING
to do with mountain biking on hiking trails. BMX, like
motorcross on which it's modeled, uses prepared circuit
tracks with spectator areas. Even the bicycles used
are very different from mountain bikes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries."

Learn to read. And try telling the truth once in a while, just for the
hell of it.

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams
 

On Oct 14, 9:32*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Oct 14, 10:35*am, VtSkier wrote:



On 10/14/2011 12:12 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...556_dukinfield....

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams

Lisa Gray

October 12, 2011
INSPIRATIONAL ... Jamie Helme-Sagar at his school prom (photo
caption)

A teenager died after falling from his bike on a BMX track, the day
after his final A level exam.

James Ryan Helme-Sagar, 17, visited the track from his Dukinfield home
in June 2010.

He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey:
Many sports are dangerous, even carrying a brush cutting
saw in the woods.

The question is, why are you posting this? This has NOTHING
to do with mountain biking on hiking trails. BMX, like
motorcross on which it's modeled, uses prepared circuit
tracks with spectator areas. Even the bicycles used
are very different from mountain bikes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries."

Learn to read. And try telling the truth once in a while, just for the
hell of it.

Mikey, you have lost it. This of course assumes that you ever had it,
but I can say with utter assurance that whether you had it or not, you
don't have it now.

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams
 

On Oct 15, 7:12*am, Opus wrote:
On Oct 14, 9:32*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Oct 14, 10:35*am, VtSkier wrote:

On 10/14/2011 12:12 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...556_dukinfield...

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams

Lisa Gray

October 12, 2011
INSPIRATIONAL ... Jamie Helme-Sagar at his school prom (photo
caption)

A teenager died after falling from his bike on a BMX track, the day
after his final A level exam.

James Ryan Helme-Sagar, 17, visited the track from his Dukinfield home
in June 2010.

He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey:
Many sports are dangerous, even carrying a brush cutting
saw in the woods.

The question is, why are you posting this? This has NOTHING
to do with mountain biking on hiking trails. BMX, like
motorcross on which it's modeled, uses prepared circuit
tracks with spectator areas. Even the bicycles used
are very different from mountain bikes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries."

Learn to read. And try telling the truth once in a while, just for the
hell of it.

Mikey, you have lost it. This of course assumes that you ever had it,
but I can say with utter assurance that whether you had it or not, you
don't have it now.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

He died while riding a mountain bike off-road. So he was mountain
biking. What's not to understand, moron?

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams
 

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Mike Vandeman says...

On Oct 15, 7:12=A0am, Opus wrote:
On Oct 14, 9:32=A0pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Oct 14, 10:35=A0am, VtSkier wrote:

On 10/14/2011 12:12 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...556_dukinfiel=
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Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams

Lisa Gray

October 12, 2011
INSPIRATIONAL ... Jamie Helme-Sagar at his school prom (photo
caption)

A teenager died after falling from his bike on a BMX track, the day
after his final A level exam.

James Ryan Helme-Sagar, 17, visited the track from his Dukinfield h=
ome
in June 2010.

He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike=92s
handlebars, suffering head injuries.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey:
Many sports are dangerous, even carrying a brush cutting
saw in the woods.

The question is, why are you posting this? This has NOTHING
to do with mountain biking on hiking trails. BMX, like
motorcross on which it's modeled, uses prepared circuit
tracks with spectator areas. Even the bicycles used
are very different from mountain bikes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike=92s
handlebars, suffering head injuries."

Learn to read. And try telling the truth once in a while, just for the
hell of it.

Mikey, you have lost it. This of course assumes that you ever had it,
but I can say with utter assurance that whether you had it or not, you
don't have it now.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

He died while riding a mountain bike off-road. So he was mountain
biking. What's not to understand, moron?

One of my neighbors deer hunts using a Weatherby 460 Magnum, which is classified
as an elephant gun. By your "logic", this guy is elephant hunting not deer
hunting.

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams
 

On Oct 14, 1:35*pm, VtSkier wrote:

This has NOTHING
to do with mountain biking on hiking trails. BMX, like
motorcross on which it's modeled, uses prepared circuit
tracks with spectator areas. Even the bicycles used
are very different from mountain bikes.

You cannot deflect Mikey with either facts or rational thought; he is
impervious to both.

PMH

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams
 

On 10/14/2011 10:32 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Oct 14, 10:35 am, wrote:
On 10/14/2011 12:12 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:





http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...556_dukinfield...

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams

Lisa Gray

October 12, 2011
INSPIRATIONAL ... Jamie Helme-Sagar at his school prom (photo
caption)

A teenager died after falling from his bike on a BMX track, the day
after his final A level exam.

James Ryan Helme-Sagar, 17, visited the track from his Dukinfield home
in June 2010.

He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey:
Many sports are dangerous, even carrying a brush cutting
saw in the woods.

The question is, why are you posting this? This has NOTHING
to do with mountain biking on hiking trails. BMX, like
motorcross on which it's modeled, uses prepared circuit
tracks with spectator areas. Even the bicycles used
are very different from mountain bikes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries."

Learn to read. And try telling the truth once in a while, just for the
hell of it.

I can read just fine Mikey. I can read "falling from
his bike on a BMX track," as well as you can. I, and
others here, have ad nauseum pointed out that the
2-wheeled equipment you are riding has little to
nothing to do with how you are using it. And if I
were to further critique the article, I'd say that
the reporter got it wrong. Mountain bikes just don't
do well on BMX tracks.

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams
 

On Oct 16, 2:56*pm, VtSkier wrote:
On 10/14/2011 10:32 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Oct 14, 10:35 am, *wrote:
On 10/14/2011 12:12 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...556_dukinfield....

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams

Lisa Gray

October 12, 2011
INSPIRATIONAL ... Jamie Helme-Sagar at his school prom (photo
caption)

A teenager died after falling from his bike on a BMX track, the day
after his final A level exam.

James Ryan Helme-Sagar, 17, visited the track from his Dukinfield home
in June 2010.

He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey:
Many sports are dangerous, even carrying a brush cutting
saw in the woods.

The question is, why are you posting this? This has NOTHING
to do with mountain biking on hiking trails. BMX, like
motorcross on which it's modeled, uses prepared circuit
tracks with spectator areas. Even the bicycles used
are very different from mountain bikes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries."

Learn to read. And try telling the truth once in a while, just for the
hell of it.

I can read just fine Mikey. I can read "falling from
his bike on a BMX track," as well as you can. I, and
others here, have ad nauseum pointed out that the
2-wheeled equipment you are riding has little to
nothing to do with how you are using it. And if I
were to further critique the article, I'd say that
the reporter got it wrong. Mountain bikes just don't
do well on BMX tracks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

He died while riding a bike off-road. That's called "mountain biking".
The type of bike is irrelevant, as you well know. You are truly a
moron, and a dishonest one. Like ALL mountain bikers.

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams
 

On 10/16/2011 11:36 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Oct 16, 2:56 pm, wrote:
On 10/14/2011 10:32 PM, Mike Vandeman wrote:





On Oct 14, 10:35 am, wrote:
On 10/14/2011 12:12 AM, Mike Vandeman wrote:

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...556_dukinfield...

Dukinfield teen died in BMX horror day after final A-level exams

Lisa Gray

October 12, 2011
INSPIRATIONAL ... Jamie Helme-Sagar at his school prom (photo
caption)

A teenager died after falling from his bike on a BMX track, the day
after his final A level exam.

James Ryan Helme-Sagar, 17, visited the track from his Dukinfield home
in June 2010.

He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey:
Many sports are dangerous, even carrying a brush cutting
saw in the woods.

The question is, why are you posting this? This has NOTHING
to do with mountain biking on hiking trails. BMX, like
motorcross on which it's modeled, uses prepared circuit
tracks with spectator areas. Even the bicycles used
are very different from mountain bikes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"He lost control on a jump and fell over his mountain bike’s
handlebars, suffering head injuries."

Learn to read. And try telling the truth once in a while, just for the
hell of it.

I can read just fine Mikey. I can read "falling from
his bike on a BMX track," as well as you can. I, and
others here, have ad nauseum pointed out that the
2-wheeled equipment you are riding has little to
nothing to do with how you are using it. And if I
were to further critique the article, I'd say that
the reporter got it wrong. Mountain bikes just don't
do well on BMX tracks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

He died while riding a bike off-road. That's called "mountain biking".
The type of bike is irrelevant, as you well know. You are truly a
moron, and a dishonest one. Like ALL mountain bikers.

You are a lying sack of ****. You are splitting hairs and
arguing minutiae to the joy of St. Augustine.

In a previous post you tried to tell me that a person is
engaged in "mountain biking" BECAUSE he is riding a
"mountain bike". Even in Queens. Please excuse me while
I reset my Irony Meter. You just broke the dial on me.

And yes, the type of bike is irrelevant and WHERE you
ride is the ONLY thing. AND a BMX track is NOT a
trail in the woods with little fuzzy things scampering
to get out of your way.

If you would stick to your campaign of keeping people
on/in wheeled vehicles off hiking trails in the
wilderness as your buddy Ed Dolan says is your
campaign and passion, you might actually find some
support. This way with your lies and ignorance
all you get is derision and scorn. And all you will
get from me.