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[email protected] March 15th 09 03:44 AM

New airless tire
 
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tec...tweel.tech.cnn
Not solid rubber, rubber support ribs radiating from the hub.

[email protected] March 15th 09 04:23 AM

New airless tire
 
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:44:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tec...tweel.tech.cnn
Not solid rubber, rubber support ribs radiating from the hub.


Dear Mike,

The tweel's flexible spokes do a nice job of illustrating how the
spokes under a loaded axle behave:
http://i42.tinypic.com/qso7qq.jpg

Unless Michelin comes up with some kind of cover, the wind drag will
be impressive. Maybe the flexing shown in the picture would prevent
snow, ice, and slush from filling the voids?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

jim beam[_4_] March 15th 09 02:08 PM

New airless tire
 
wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:44:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tec...tweel.tech.cnn
Not solid rubber, rubber support ribs radiating from the hub.


Dear Mike,

The tweel's flexible spokes do a nice job of illustrating how the
spokes under a loaded axle behave:
http://i42.tinypic.com/qso7qq.jpg


complete the sentence: "with 'rim' distortion"...



Unless Michelin comes up with some kind of cover, the wind drag will
be impressive. Maybe the flexing shown in the picture would prevent
snow, ice, and slush from filling the voids?

Cheers,

Carl Fogel


Nick L Plate March 15th 09 07:51 PM

New airless tire
 
On 15 Mar, 04:15, wrote:
Mike Schwab wrote:

*http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tec...tweel.tech.cnn

Not solid rubber, rubber support ribs radiating from the hub.


All cushioning on a pneumatic tire is offered by an air spring with no
measurable losses while clincher losses are from bending tread, casing
and inner tube, all small amounts that are hard to measure accurately
without careful instrumentation. *In contrast the "rubber support" has
large hysteretic losses that can be sampled by stretching a broad flat
rubber band and sensing its temperature against the upper lip.

I don't know what the main goal of this airless tire is, but it better
not be low RR, one of the main interests for bicyclists.


It seems to me to be a development of the military pneumatic tyres
that can be used after the side wall has been blown out. They've just
made an announcement for general publicity purposes. It's unlikely
ever to have a general consumer use, although run-flat sales are
increasing.

TJ


T

[email protected] March 15th 09 07:51 PM

New airless tire
 
On Mar 14, 11:44*pm, "
wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tec...tweel.tech.cnn
Not solid rubber, rubber support ribs radiating from the hub.


Yeah, in the four years since I read about th' tweel,
it has revolutionised transport as we know it.

'member the bad ol' day(s) when we had to replace
just the outer rubber covering on our (p)neu(u)-
matic Hweal-tire hybrids? Morons! Using the devil's
spirit to suspend something when good ol' flexible
petrochemicals could do the same job at some
thousands of times the weight* and only one order
of magnitude greater in cost!

*sorry: ~0.0012g/ml v. ~1.25g/ml, so closer to
1041 times (frowny face)

Tom Sherman[_2_] March 15th 09 07:56 PM

New airless tire
 
wrote:
On Mar 14, 11:44 pm, "
wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tec...tweel.tech.cnn
Not solid rubber, rubber support ribs radiating from the hub.


Yeah, in the four years since I read about th' tweel,
it has revolutionised transport as we know it.[...]


I expect it will have Segway level effect on the overall transportation
system!!!

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

[email protected] March 15th 09 07:58 PM

New airless tire
 
On Mar 15, 12:23*am, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:44:42 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tec...tweel.tech.cnn
Not solid rubber, rubber support ribs radiating from the hub.


Dear Mike,

The tweel's flexible spokes do a nice job of illustrating how the
spokes under a loaded axle behave:
*http://i42.tinypic.com/qso7qq.jpg

Unless Michelin comes up with some kind of cover, the wind drag will
be impressive. Maybe the flexing shown in the picture would prevent
snow, ice, and slush from filling the voids?


I guess over the years (the pic of that Auto-Union quadricycle is
from ought-five) they've learnt a few things and finally patented
one with a cover:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=zEV..._pages&cad=0_1
or
http://tinyurl.com/tweel0rz


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