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On 4/18/2018 11:14 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:

I bought a rain cape once. I put it into my pannier, went for a ride,
as I was leaving a mall parking lot it started to rain, I stopped and
put the cape on, looked back to see whether it was safe to start
moving, got off, and put the cape back into the pannier. It hung on a
hook in the back entry until it rotted and I threw it away.

??

Why?


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On 4/19/2018 10:02 AM, wrote:

I understand that in some situations the looks of cycling specific clothes is not appropriate but thinking that a cut off jeans with all the seams and stitches and a cotton T shirt is more comfortable amazes me.

I agree, jeans are nowhere near as comfortable as decent bike shorts.

But I also agree there are times special cycling clothes aren't
appropriate. I've noticed that over the decades I've somehow gotten more
tolerant of riding in non-bike clothes. For riding to a meeting, going
shopping, etc. I'll often use normal street clothes for rides up to
about 15 miles. More than 15 miles, I'll almost always be in bike shorts.

OTOH, my wife prefers to change into bike shorts to ride even six miles
round trip to the grocery store. I'd like to get her some
normal-looking slacks that are comfortable for riding - say, something
with thin and slightly stretchy fabric. If anyone has any
recommendations, let me know.

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- Frank Krygowski

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On 4/19/2018 10:08 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-19 07:24, Duane wrote:
On 19/04/2018 10:02 AM, wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-17 19:50, Joy Beeson wrote:
James wrote:

-snip clothing-

For the self-employed like me that won't work. Of course, I
won't wear a Greenbay Packers T-shirt with holes in there to
a client.


I don't follow football but are you really more special than
His Holiness himself?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ay-packers-fan

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On 2018-04-19 08:49, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/19/2018 10:08 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-19 07:24, Duane wrote:
On 19/04/2018 10:02 AM, wrote:
jbeattie wrote:
Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-17 19:50, Joy Beeson wrote:
James wrote:

-snip clothing-

For the self-employed like me that won't work. Of course, I
won't wear a Greenbay Packers T-shirt with holes in there to
a client.


I don't follow football but are you really more special than His
Holiness himself?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ay-packers-fan


Nah, I actually gave up (cut up) my Packers T-shirt when a dog had a
medical emergency.

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On 20/04/18 02:36, dave wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 07:59:12 -0700, Joerg wrote:


I get almost 1/2h of evap cooling out of my cotton T-shirts. That is
usually enough to get to the next lake, creek or other water source.

My lycra skin suit dries far quicker than 1/2h of riding. More like 5-10
minutes.


I suspect the cotton retains more of the moisture rather than wicking it
away and evaporating it. The aim is not to stay wet but be cooled by the
evaporation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linen

Facinating stuff. Never knew it had such a long history of usage.


If only it was elastic!

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JS

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On 2018-04-19 15:14, James wrote:
On 20/04/18 02:36, dave wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 07:59:12 -0700, Joerg wrote:


I get almost 1/2h of evap cooling out of my cotton T-shirts. That is
usually enough to get to the next lake, creek or other water source.

My lycra skin suit dries far quicker than 1/2h of riding. More like 5-10
minutes.


That's exactly what one does not want for evap cooling. Cotton provides
enough of a reservoir to keep evaporating and thus cooling my body for
half an hour. On hot days I wear the slightly thicker version T-shirts
for that reason.


I suspect the cotton retains more of the moisture rather than wicking it
away and evaporating it. The aim is not to stay wet but be cooled by the
evaporation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linen

Facinating stuff. Never knew it had such a long history of usage.


If only it was elastic!


Yup :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-6XEzhqaCE

Someone here once said that the inventor of Lycra deserves a Nobel prize.

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Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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On 20/04/18 08:26, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-04-19 15:14, James wrote:
On 20/04/18 02:36, dave wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 07:59:12 -0700, Joerg wrote:


I get almost 1/2h of evap cooling out of my cotton T-shirts. That is
usually enough to get to the next lake, creek or other water source.

My lycra skin suit dries far quicker than 1/2h of riding. More like 5-10
minutes.


That's exactly what one does not want for evap cooling. Cotton provides
enough of a reservoir to keep evaporating and thus cooling my body for
half an hour. On hot days I wear the slightly thicker version T-shirts
for that reason.


bull**** alert.

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JS

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On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:32:12 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

Pockets? Don't need them, don't want them. To me a real bicycle has a
trunk or panniers just like motor vehicles do.

Commercial jerseys don't have *enough* pockets. There are things that
must come with me when I leave the bike, such as my wallet and keys
and reading glasses, and there are things that I must get at without
dismounting, such as my handkerchief, pocket watch, and notebook.

(I pull off and stop before using the last two, of course.)

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On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 6:10:13 AM UTC+1, Joy Beeson wrote:

Commercial jerseys don't have *enough* pockets. There are things that
must come with me when I leave the bike, such as my wallet and keys
and reading glasses, and there are things that I must get at without
dismounting, such as my handkerchief, pocket watch, and notebook.

(I pull off and stop before using the last two, of course.)

You could join the 21st century and fit a cheap bike computer like the Sigma BC509, which will tell you the time at a glance.

If you don't want to descend quite that far into nerdiness, the Altura Night Vision Evo jacket has four ziippered pockets, one the normal one across the lower back, plus three on the front. Reading glasses would most handily slip into the outside breast pocket

AJ

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On 4/19/2018 11:07 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:32:12 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

Pockets? Don't need them, don't want them. To me a real bicycle has a
trunk or panniers just like motor vehicles do.

Commercial jerseys don't have *enough* pockets. There are things that
must come with me when I leave the bike, such as my wallet and keys
and reading glasses, and there are things that I must get at without
dismounting, such as my handkerchief, pocket watch, and notebook.

(I pull off and stop before using the last two, of course.)


The Ancients had pockets on both sides of their jerseys:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...rtali--012.jpg

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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971