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flushtango July 13th 09 02:53 PM

Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?
 
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...IUuOpYbLrNUXRw

jj


flushtango July 13th 09 02:57 PM

Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?
 

"flushtango" wrote in message
...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...IUuOpYbLrNUXRw

jj


Ream or team-it's up to you.

jj


[email protected] July 13th 09 03:11 PM

Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?
 
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:53:51 -0700, "flushtango"
wrote:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...IUuOpYbLrNUXRw

jj


I'll someone else start the offshoot on the misspelling in the title,
which will go on longer that any serious response. This has three
offshoots in my opinion. The first is that Contador is now the red
headed child. He better race his butt into a position that he can't be
tossed to the dogs or that's what will happen. There is Astana top to
bottom and then there is Contador.

The second is that it will happen. Contador is probably wishing he
didn't find a way to break the contract during the 'no money' days.
With Lance making noises that he will be back next year, Contador will
be headed to the door.

The final point is that if Vino comes back, Lance will leave him with
a meaningless framework of a team and the real Astana sans Contador
will be elsewhere. And Contador will appreciate LA in the end for
snapping his contract along with everyone else's as they all head for
the door.

So on the rest day, my guess is:

1. Lance's lawyers
2. Vinokourov's lawyers

Not that it will make any difference. Vino will lose every element of
what everyone else seems to feel is the strongest Tour team and feel
he is ahead of the game. OTOH, 'Vinokourov' and 'team' are difficult
to put in a sentence that implies agreement.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Donald Munro[_3_] July 13th 09 03:15 PM

Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?
 
flushtango wrote:
Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?


They're writing a book ?




Jim Feeley[_2_] July 13th 09 05:02 PM

Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?
 
On 7/13/09 7:15 AM, in article , "Donald
Munro" wrote:

flushtango wrote:
Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?


They're writing a book ?



Shockingly non-profane. And moderately funny.

Well played.

Jim


Paul B. Anders July 13th 09 06:12 PM

Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?
 
On Jul 13, 6:53*am, "flushtango" wrote:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...mnKgVrQ1H0IUuO...

jj


Alonzo is too busy with F1 to be worrying about cycling.

Brad Anders

Michael Press July 14th 09 12:35 AM

Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?
 
In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:53:51 -0700, "flushtango"
wrote:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...IUuOpYbLrNUXRw

jj


I'll someone else start the offshoot on the misspelling in the title,
which will go on longer that any serious response. This has three
offshoots in my opinion. The first is that Contador is now the red
headed child. He better race his butt into a position that he can't be
tossed to the dogs or that's what will happen. There is Astana top to
bottom and then there is Contador.

The second is that it will happen. Contador is probably wishing he
didn't find a way to break the contract during the 'no money' days.
With Lance making noises that he will be back next year, Contador will
be headed to the door.

The final point is that if Vino comes back, Lance will leave him with
a meaningless framework of a team and the real Astana sans Contador
will be elsewhere. And Contador will appreciate LA in the end for
snapping his contract along with everyone else's as they all head for
the door.

So on the rest day, my guess is:

1. Lance's lawyers
2. Vinokourov's lawyers

Not that it will make any difference. Vino will lose every element of
what everyone else seems to feel is the strongest Tour team and feel
he is ahead of the game. OTOH, 'Vinokourov' and 'team' are difficult
to put in a sentence that implies agreement.


After Contador wins in Paris with Armstrong's help,
they reform with Alonzo. Contador, JB, Armstrong.

--
Michael Press

Tom Kunich July 14th 09 01:25 AM

Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?
 
"Michael Press" wrote in message
...

After Contador wins in Paris with Armstrong's help,
they reform with Alonzo. Contador, JB, Armstrong.


I think that everyone but Contador will go to a new team but Contador will
go to a Spanish team. Hopefully he won't then get busted.


ilan[_2_] July 14th 09 01:27 AM

Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?
 
On Jul 13, 3:53*pm, "flushtango" wrote:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...mnKgVrQ1H0IUuO...

jj


I can imagine Armstrong and Alonso starting a team, that is, Alonso
driving in NASCAR with Livestrong sponsorship.

-ilan

Ryan Cousineau July 14th 09 02:38 AM

Alonzo to field a ream with Contador?
 
In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:53:51 -0700, "flushtango"
wrote:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...H0IUuOpYbLrNUX
Rw

jj


I'll someone else start the offshoot on the misspelling in the title,
which will go on longer that any serious response. This has three
offshoots in my opinion. The first is that Contador is now the red
headed child. He better race his butt into a position


Oh no you didn't!

that he can't be
tossed to the dogs or that's what will happen. There is Astana top to
bottom and then there is Contador.

The second is that it will happen. Contador is probably wishing he
didn't find a way to break the contract during the 'no money' days.
With Lance making noises that he will be back next year, Contador will
be headed to the door.

The final point is that if Vino comes back, Lance will leave him with
a meaningless framework of a team and the real Astana sans Contador
will be elsewhere. And Contador will appreciate LA in the end for
snapping his contract along with everyone else's as they all head for
the door.

So on the rest day, my guess is:

1. Lance's lawyers
2. Vinokourov's lawyers

Not that it will make any difference. Vino will lose every element of
what everyone else seems to feel is the strongest Tour team and feel
he is ahead of the game. OTOH, 'Vinokourov' and 'team' are difficult
to put in a sentence that implies agreement.


Does the Astana sponsorship contract really extend, with hard money*,
beyond this season?

If not, can you really see any continuation for Bruyneel and Astana?

A team is, more or less, a DS, a staff, some riders, and a thin layer of
sponsor-colored plastic wrapped around a leased bus. The rest of the
stuff is laundry and sponsor-bikes, which are annually sold off by the
riders or mechanics and changed out for new ones.

I think Johan is getting what he wants from both Lance and Alberto. I
think if Contador wins this Tour (or loses it due to force majeur), he
will be more or less happy to stay.

And I think that Astana doesn't want anything to do with Bruyneel and
that Bruyneel sees greener pastures further away from Vino.

*and basically, I mean money Johan already has deposited in his account.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."


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