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ANOTHER Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend, Oregon
"Jumps" obviously don't belong on trails.... DUH!
Mike http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbc...ategory=NEWS01 Injured mountain biker rescued Published: September 24. 2011 4:00AM PST A mountain biker who injured himself while riding near the Wanoga Sno Park was rescued Thursday evening, the Deschutes County Sheriff’s Office said. Perry Hertler, 40, of Milwaukee, was riding down the Tiddlywinks Trail when he failed to negotiate a jump, seriously injuring himself. A friend who had been riding with him called 911 and directed rescuers to their location. Hertler was treated at the scene and flown to St. Charles-Bend for serious, but non-life-threatening injuries. http://www.ktvz.com/news/29279571/detail.html Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend From KTVZ.COM News Sources POSTED: 9:15 am PDT September 23, 2011 BEND, Ore. -- A mountain biker from Wisconsin who was injured trying to make a jump on a trail west of Bend Thursday evening was rescued by officers and volunteers, authorities said. Deschutes County sheriff’s deputies and Search and Rescue, as well as Oregon State Police, were dispatched around 6:15 p.m. to the report of an injured mountain biker on the Tiddlywinks trail, out of Wanoga Sno- Park, said sheriff’s Deputy Rhett Hemphill. They learned Perry Hertler, 40, of Milwaukie, had been riding his mountain bike down the trail when he failed to negotiate a jump he’d gone over and fell, causing serious injury, Hemphill said. A friend riding with him was able to call 911 and give their location. Two sheriff’s deputies, an OSP trooper and seven SAR members responded by mountain bike, ATV and on foot, he said. Hertler was located and treated on scene by SAR medics, then placed in a wheeled “ambu-sled” and taken by ATV to the Wanoga Sno-Park, where he was moved to a waiting AirLink helicopter. |
ANOTHER Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend, Oregon
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... "Jumps" obviously don't belong on trails.... DUH! Mike http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbc...ategory=NEWS01 Injured mountain biker rescued Published: September 24. 2011 4:00AM PST A mountain biker who injured himself while riding near the Wanoga Sno Park was rescued Thursday evening, the Deschutes County Sheriff’s Office said. Perry Hertler, 40, of Milwaukee, was riding down the Tiddlywinks Trail when he failed to negotiate a jump, seriously injuring himself. A friend who had been riding with him called 911 and directed rescuers to their location. - Hey, jumps on trails are fine. But, cellfones should not be allowed. Without the cellfone, the backcountry jumps might be much smaller :) |
ANOTHER Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend, Oregon
On Sep 24, 11:56*am, "Wayne" wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" *wrote in message ... "Jumps" obviously don't belong on trails.... DUH! Mike http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbc...20110924/NEWS0.... Injured mountain biker rescued Published: September 24. 2011 4:00AM PST A mountain biker who injured himself while riding near the Wanoga Sno Park was rescued Thursday evening, the Deschutes County Sheriff s Office said. Perry Hertler, 40, of Milwaukee, was riding down the Tiddlywinks Trail when he failed to negotiate a jump, seriously injuring himself. A friend who had been riding with him called 911 and directed rescuers to their location. - Hey, jumps on trails are fine. *But, cellfones should not be allowed. Without the cellfone, the backcountry jumps might be much smaller :) Good point! I agree. By the way, what is the "app" for "how to fix my broken neck"? |
ANOTHER Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend, Oregon
On Sep 24, 12:33*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sep 24, 11:56*am, "Wayne" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" *wrote in message ... "Jumps" obviously don't belong on trails.... DUH! Mike http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbc...20110924/NEWS0.... Injured mountain biker rescued Published: September 24. 2011 4:00AM PST A mountain biker who injured himself while riding near the Wanoga Sno Park was rescued Thursday evening, the Deschutes County Sheriff s Office said. Perry Hertler, 40, of Milwaukee, was riding down the Tiddlywinks Trail when he failed to negotiate a jump, seriously injuring himself. A friend who had been riding with him called 911 and directed rescuers to their location. - Hey, jumps on trails are fine. *But, cellfones should not be allowed. Without the cellfone, the backcountry jumps might be much smaller :) Good point! I agree. By the way, what is the "app" for "how to fix my broken neck"?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - REAL men don't carry cell phones. ;) |
ANOTHER Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend, Oregon
On Sep 24, 3:13*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sep 24, 12:33*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sep 24, 11:56*am, "Wayne" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" *wrote in message .... "Jumps" obviously don't belong on trails.... DUH! Mike http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbc...20110924/NEWS0... Injured mountain biker rescued Published: September 24. 2011 4:00AM PST A mountain biker who injured himself while riding near the Wanoga Sno Park was rescued Thursday evening, the Deschutes County Sheriff s Office said. Perry Hertler, 40, of Milwaukee, was riding down the Tiddlywinks Trail when he failed to negotiate a jump, seriously injuring himself. A friend who had been riding with him called 911 and directed rescuers to their location. - Hey, jumps on trails are fine. *But, cellfones should not be allowed. Without the cellfone, the backcountry jumps might be much smaller :) Good point! I agree. By the way, what is the "app" for "how to fix my broken neck"?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - REAL men don't carry cell phones. ;) well, they certainly dont carry hand saws either, do they? |
ANOTHER Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend, Oregon
On Sep 26, 6:55*am, charley wrote:
On Sep 24, 3:13*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sep 24, 12:33*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sep 24, 11:56*am, "Wayne" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" *wrote in message ... "Jumps" obviously don't belong on trails.... DUH! Mike http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbc...20110924/NEWS0... Injured mountain biker rescued Published: September 24. 2011 4:00AM PST A mountain biker who injured himself while riding near the Wanoga Sno Park was rescued Thursday evening, the Deschutes County Sheriff s Office said. Perry Hertler, 40, of Milwaukee, was riding down the Tiddlywinks Trail when he failed to negotiate a jump, seriously injuring himself. A friend who had been riding with him called 911 and directed rescuers to their location. - Hey, jumps on trails are fine. *But, cellfones should not be allowed. Without the cellfone, the backcountry jumps might be much smaller :) Good point! I agree. By the way, what is the "app" for "how to fix my broken neck"?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - REAL men don't carry cell phones. ;) well, they certainly dont carry hand saws either, do they?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, they do. Habitat restoration is something everyone should be doing, to try to correct the mess humans have made of the world. Mountain bikers, on the other hand, only know how to DESTROY habitat. |
ANOTHER Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend, Oregon
On Sep 26, 4:54*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sep 26, 6:55*am, charley wrote: On Sep 24, 3:13*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sep 24, 12:33*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Sep 24, 11:56*am, "Wayne" wrote: "Mike Vandeman" *wrote in message ... "Jumps" obviously don't belong on trails.... DUH! Mike http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbc...20110924/NEWS0... Injured mountain biker rescued Published: September 24. 2011 4:00AM PST A mountain biker who injured himself while riding near the Wanoga Sno Park was rescued Thursday evening, the Deschutes County Sheriff s Office said. Perry Hertler, 40, of Milwaukee, was riding down the Tiddlywinks Trail when he failed to negotiate a jump, seriously injuring himself. A friend who had been riding with him called 911 and directed rescuers to their location. - Hey, jumps on trails are fine. *But, cellfones should not be allowed. Without the cellfone, the backcountry jumps might be much smaller :) Good point! I agree. By the way, what is the "app" for "how to fix my broken neck"?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - REAL men don't carry cell phones. ;) well, they certainly dont carry hand saws either, do they?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, they do. Habitat restoration is something everyone should be doing, to try to correct the mess humans have made of the world. Mountain bikers, on the other hand, only know how to DESTROY habitat. you fool. saws only destroy plants and trees, they can do absolutely nothing to benefit them. a true naturalist would let everything do its own thing, instead you were on the trail cutting up trees and vines and who knows what else. you are a failure and a hypocrite. hows that auto dependency thing workin' out for ya? about as well as the hope and change??? LOL! your phd is about as deserved as obamas nobel peace prize. you should be very proud. ROLL EYES |
ANOTHER Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend, Oregon
"charley" wrote in message
... [...] you are a failure and a hypocrite. hows that auto dependency thing workin' out for ya? about as well as the hope and change??? LOL! your phd is about as deserved as obamas nobel peace prize. you should be very proud. ROLL EYES Obama is going to be a one term president. He is even worse than Carter, something I hitherto thought was impossible. Obama not only represents personal failure, but failure of the entire liberal progressive ideology. He couldn't even get health care right! -- Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
ANOTHER Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend, Oregon
On Sep 24, 11:15*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
"Jumps" obviously don't belong on trails.... DUH! Mike http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbc...20110924/NEWS0.... Injured mountain biker rescued Published: September 24. 2011 4:00AM PST A mountain biker who injured himself while riding near the Wanoga Sno Park was rescued Thursday evening, the Deschutes County Sheriff’s Office said. Perry Hertler, 40, of Milwaukee, was riding down the Tiddlywinks Trail when he failed to negotiate a jump, seriously injuring himself. A friend who had been riding with him called 911 and directed rescuers to their location. Hertler was treated at the scene and flown to St. Charles-Bend for serious, but non-life-threatening injuries. http://www.ktvz.com/news/29279571/detail.html Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend From KTVZ.COM News Sources POSTED: 9:15 am PDT September 23, 2011 BEND, Ore. -- A mountain biker from Wisconsin who was injured trying to make a jump on a trail west of Bend Thursday evening was rescued by officers and volunteers, authorities said. Deschutes County sheriff’s deputies and Search and Rescue, as well as Oregon State Police, were dispatched around 6:15 p.m. to the report of an injured mountain biker on the Tiddlywinks trail, out of Wanoga Sno- Park, said sheriff’s Deputy Rhett Hemphill. They learned Perry Hertler, 40, of Milwaukie, had been riding his mountain bike down the trail when he failed to negotiate a jump he’d gone over and fell, causing serious injury, Hemphill said. A friend riding with him was able to call 911 and give their location. Two sheriff’s deputies, an OSP trooper and seven SAR members responded by mountain bike, ATV and on foot, he said. Hertler was located and treated on scene by SAR medics, then placed in a wheeled “ambu-sled” and taken by ATV to the Wanoga Sno-Park, where he was moved to a waiting AirLink helicopter. The risk of injury is one that every mountain biker understands, and thus undertakes in the sport accordingly. It is unfortunate that this man is injured, but it is not unheard of by any means. Every aspect of our life involves risk, even riding public transportation, something you often advocate, and it is up to the individual to decide what risks to take. No one forces you to ride your bike off of jumps, it is entirely a personal choice. Mountain bike trails often contain jumps because negotiating them is extremely enjoyable, such that the discipline of riding called Dirt jumping has been created specifically for that purpose. Pictured in the link below is a series of dirt jumps of various sizes. http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/7211388/ Trails that are multi-use, ie. intended for both hikers and cyclists, will almost never have jumps on them, and if they do they will be easily negotiable, and not feature gaps between the take off and the landing as shown in the picture below. http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/7185647/ Trails that are created for the purpose of cycling on the other hand, are free to have whatever stunts they like, as only cyclists will be attempting them. An example of something built on a mountain biking specific trail that shouldn't be on a multi use trail is the teeter- totter shown in the picture below. http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/5008169/ I see no issue with stunts like jumps on mountain bike specific trails, for the very reason that they are intended for the use of cyclists only. Please do not respond to this post by saying "did you say something?", as you so often do, ignoring someone's statements in that manner is simply a method of admitting that they are right. I would much prefer you to actually comment upon what I (and others have to say), so that we can engage in a proper, intelligent discussion or debate. SW |
ANOTHER Injured Mtn. Biker Rescued West of Bend, Oregon
"SebastianW" wrote in message
... [...] The risk of injury is one that every mountain biker understands, and thus undertakes in the sport accordingly. It is unfortunate that this man is injured, but it is not unheard of by any means. Every aspect of our life involves risk, even riding public transportation, something you often advocate, and it is up to the individual to decide what risks to take. No one forces you to ride your bike off of jumps, it is entirely a personal choice. Cyclists who do a lot of mountain biking do indeed know the risks, but most neophytes do not. Their brains are full of all sorts of nonsense about how enjoyable it can be without any awareness of the dangers. Mr. Vandeman performs a valuable service by informing neophytes of the dangers. Mountain bike trails often contain jumps because negotiating them is extremely enjoyable, such that the discipline of riding called Dirt jumping has been created specifically for that purpose. Pictured in the link below is a series of dirt jumps of various sizes. Single track trails for mountain bikers need to constructed especially for them and should not be mingled in any manner with trails for hikers. Abandoned city dumps and gravel pits would be ideal for them. Trails that are multi-use, ie. intended for both hikers and cyclists, will almost never have jumps on them, and if they do they will be easily negotiable, and not feature gaps between the take off and the landing as shown in the picture below. "Multi-use trail" is an oxy-moron. Cyclists need their own trails just as hikers do. Trails that are created for the purpose of cycling on the other hand, are free to have whatever stunts they like, as only cyclists will be attempting them. An example of something built on a mountain biking specific trail that shouldn't be on a multi use trail is the teeter- totter shown in the picture below. "Single track trails for mountain bikers need to constructed especially for them and should not be mingled in any manner with trails for hikers. Abandoned city dumps and gravel pits would be ideal for them." - Ed Dolan I see no issue with stunts like jumps on mountain bike specific trails, for the very reason that they are intended for the use of cyclists only. Neither Mr. Vandeman nor I care in the least if mountain bikers want to kill themselves doing dumb things. However, we do not want these fools anywhere near trails for hikers. Get your own trails and stay off of ours! -- Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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