On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 11:58:07 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
On 5/24/2019 3:36 PM, Duane wrote:

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Jay is correct. Risk is different for different riders and even for the
same rider in different circumstances. All cycling is not the same.
Sometime I’m trudging through the traffic alone commuting to work.
Sometimes I’m out in the country in a group pushing it. Both have
different parameters regarding risk etc. Some cyclists do only one or the
other. Some do both. Hard to group them together statistically. And what
would be the point anyway?

The point is that when the statistics don't support your premise you
have to do something to justify your position. No one would think any
worse of Frank if he used statistics honestly.

Yes! And YOU are an expert in ignoring statistics when they do not agree with whatever position it is you're holding at any particular time.

Cheers