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Old August 18th 12, 10:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Dave - Cyclists VOR
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Default more cyclists means more deaths.

On 17/08/2012 21:13, Phil W Lee wrote:
Kim Bolton considered Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:58:09
+0100 the perfect time to write:


Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:

Although deaths and injuries fell significantly for motorists,
pedestrians and motorcyclists, the number of cyclists killed rose for a
third consecutive year. Deaths rose by 7% from 104 in 2009 to 111 last
year, although the DfT says the number of cyclists rose by just 0.5%.
The cycling casualty rate is, however, well down on the average annual
death rate of 186 during 1994 to 1998.


1998 was 14 years ago, and 2009 - 11 saw a rise in cyclist KSI,
against the trends of lower traffic volumes and slightly-rising
cyclist numbers.

This is not good news for those who say that individual cyclists are
safer because of the increasing numbers, and one must ask what it is
that cyclists are doing wrong.


Since this rise is also affecting pedestrians, it is far more likely
that the motorists are the ones doing something wrong.


Phil 'Skinny Latte' Lee makes it up again. Pedestrian casualties are
down again.

A brief survey at any roadside will confirm that few, if any,
motorists drive completely within the law.


What a shame your fantasy isn't matched by the facts.

In 2011, the Magistrates’ Courts proceeded against a total of 888,303
motoring offences, down about 12 per cent on 2010. Proceedings peaked in
2003 at 2.33 million and have since shown continued annual decreases.

Of those proceeded against 78 per cent were found guilty. 688,976.

Which represents around 2% of motorists.

"A brief survey at any roadside will confirm that few, if any,
motorists drive completely within the law".

That 'few' being 98%.



It's interesting that this rise in death and serious injury among
vulnerable road users has come about in the period since the
government announced "an end to the war on motorists".


The increase only concerns cyclists, injuries to all others are down.
Does that not tell you anything about the suitability of a push bike as
transport?

It seems that many motorists regarded that announcement as a
declaration that road traffic law would no longer be enforced, and it
is noticeable that few police forces do enforce the law in respect of
driving, despite it being by far the most common cause of traumatic
death and serious injury in the country.


More fantasy. RTC's don't even make the top ten.

So it's probably due to politically motivated neglect of duty on the
part of the police and CPS.


Aluminum foil hats on lads....

By apparently directing this neglect, Hammond should be charged with
conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, along with all the senior
police officers who colluded in allowing the carnage.

We already know you are a raving idiot, why do you keep confirming it?

Two cappuccino, one americano & a mocha please.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."
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