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Old September 10th 18, 01:41 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Default Official pedal cyclist road deaths in 2016 ex DOT/NHTSA/FARS(Fatality Analysis Reporting System)

On 9/9/2018 8:12 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/9/2018 7:00 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 4:18:44 PM UTC-7,
wrote:
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 3:55:31 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 9:19:34 PM UTC+1,
wrote:
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 4:58:33 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 12:24:47 AM UTC+1,
wrote:
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 11:18:17 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute
wrote:
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national road safety facts for 2016 were published in May 2018
but I haven't seen them mentioned here yet. From the FARS
(Fatality Analysis Reporting System):

Overview:
• In 2016, there were 840 pedalcyclists killed in motor
vehicle traffic crashes in the United States, an increase from
829 in 2015. Pedalcyclist deaths accounted for 2.2 percent of
all motor vehicle traffic fatalities (Table 1).
• The number of pedalcyclists killed in 2016 is 1.3 percent
higher than the 829 pedalcyclists killed in 2015.

Key Findings:
• There were 840 pedal cyclist deaths in 2016, which accounted
for 2.2 percent of all traffic fatali- ties during the year.
• Seventy-one percent of pedal cyclists who died in motor
vehicle crashes in 2016 died in crashes in urban areas.
• From 2007 to 2016, the average age of pedal cyclists killed
in motor vehicle crashes increased from 40 to 46.
• The* pedal cyclist fatality rate per million people was 5.6
times higher for males than females in 2016.
• Alcohol involvement—either for the motor vehicle operator
or for the pedalcyclist—was reported in 35 percent of all
fatal pedal cyclist crashes in 2016.
• More than 26 percent of the pedal cyclists who died in 2016
had blood alcohol concentrations (BACs) of .01 g/dL or greater.

See much more analysis via the DOT portal at:
https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/812507

Andre Jute
The facts illuminate and calm emotions

I take that to indicate that a large number of bicyclists deaths
are the homeless or nearly homeless, drunk or nearly so, and
riding probably at night with no lights.

Unless you cite a verifiable authority or analysis from linked
studies, that's just straightforward slander. It's also a regular
mantra from the nastiest of the local AHZ.

Andre Jute

What do you need Andre? The article shows 71% in urban areas, 62%
not at an intersection or in a bicycle lane and 49% after dark or
at dawn or dusk. Do you find that hard to interpret or is it simply
your position that anyone other than me can use deductive reasoning?

Come off it, Tom; you know better than to think I'd pick on you for
no reason at all. The thing is, for a radical conclusion such as
yours, you need more than one supporting reference point. This is
especially true in this forum because the execrable Krygowski, a
generally unreliable witness and wannabe polemicist of unbelievable
malice, has long sullied the water with pejorative exaggerations
about cycle fatalities. There's another one of Krygowski's
distortions just yesterday, where he inflated the 21% that you
quoted to "a quarter".

Of course Andre, but you are resisting facts because your BELIEFS are
different. This is exactly what today's media is doing with Trump.

They hate the made DESOITE the fact that he is doing EXACTLY what he
promised to do except for building the wall. And they are APPLAUDING
NOT BUILDING THE WALL even though we have some 30,000,000 illegal
aliens here and some 700,000 falsely obtained H1B visas obtained each
year. Fully 10% of those visas go to people for the high tech
industry in Silicon Valley. They cannot do the jobs since a large
number of them have counterfeit credentials and they simply disappear
into the population.

And WHY do they hate him? Because he doesn't believe in socialism.
And he is destroying the Deep State. The facts are that this is
improving the lives of the very media monsters who are attempting to
destroy Trump but since their beliefs do not allow them to recognize
such they continue to attack him from a false position.


Comrade, wait until Trump digs down and weeds out the massive
socialist programs that are Social Security and Medicare. You better
hope the Deep State covers your back on those.



I heartily agree with you, Jay. I never understood 'big government out
of my SS check." WTF? Are people really that stupid or venal?


Umm... Yes.


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