On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 01:31:12 -0000 (UTC), ERSHC
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 14:29:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 5:02:44 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 6:14:43 PM UTC+1, wrote:
A friend of mine just had a custom bike built and although it fits great there is a 2 cm shoe overlap of the front wheel. The danger of this is making a hard turn and trying to straighten out with your foot then in the way. Criterium racers in particular could do this because they only stop pedalling at the absolute apex and then start again with the front wheel still turned.

Anyone else had any experience with this? I remember high siding because of this. Luckily not in a race to be run over by a hundred riders.

Custom build and shoe overlap? I would want my money back.

Turns out that shoe overlap is common. Especially among pro climbers who are small and have short arms.

So why would you want your money back? Tell us HOW this overlap can have any effect? I had an old Motobecane that had overlap. I managed to crash the bike because of this but at a standstill. Would you want your money back from Motobecane?

Do you suppose a company that has been building custom bikes for 60 years doesn't know what they're doing?

I'm not trying to insult you. I'm suggesting that if you don't have any direct experience with this sort of thing just making comments isn't helpful.

It may make the bike bike not-race-legal.

UCI CLARIFICATION GUIDE OF THE UCI TECHNICAL REGULATION quotes

ARTICLE 1.3.009: "The bicycle should have handlebars which allow it to
be ridden and manoeuvred in any circumstances and in complete safety.”

and adds the comentary: " ... Bicycles shall have at least 89 mm
clearance between the pedal spindle and the front tyre when turned to
any position in accordance with the requirements of the EN14781 safety
standard to not be hindered when turning."

I just measured one of my bicycles and it is 60cm from the BB axle to
front wheel axle, well within the 53 - 65cm limits. It has 170mm crank
arms and 700c - 25 tires and when I measure the distance between the
pedal axle and the front tire it is 90mm.

Then I clipped a shoe into the pedal and the distance from the pedal
axle to the toe of the shoe is 11.5cm. Shoe size is 42.

So a legal UCI bike may have toe overlap.
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Cheers,

John B.