On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 10:58:56 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 11/2/2018 8:38 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/1/2018 9:54 PM, John B. slocomb wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 22:01:30 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 11/1/2018 5:44 PM, James wrote:
On 30/10/18 9:27 am, AMuzi wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ke-bushes.html




It has emerged that the bike rider had keyed the vehicle before this
incident.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-viral.html



What hasn't emerged is why he keyed the vehicle.* I have been in
contact
with the person who broke the story, and apparently the cyclist is no
longer willing to talk.* Hmm.

Yes, we don't know why he keyed the vehicle; and I don't think that act
is usually unprovoked. In any case, it doesn't justify an attack with a
deadly weapon.

Damaging a person's car is not the same as damaging his body. But one
weird psychological side effect of motoring is that many people react
the same way. I've seen guys get enraged when someone leaned on their
car, as they would if someone grabbed their neck.

I certainly understand what you are saying but we just bought a new
car - some $27,000 in U.S. money - and if some nitwit on a bicycle
were to carve a groove down the side of the new car I might not run
his bike off the road with the car but I'd be tempted, probably beyond
my ability to resist, to hit him with a stick.* Just to test the
effectiveness of his helmet, so to speak.

Depending on the severely of the "keying" it can cost several thousand
dollars (here, in a decent shop) to return the car to its like new
condition. What justifies a cyclist doing that sort of damage to my
new car?

What justifies a cyclist doing that sort of damage to my
new car?

Uh, texting while drifting into my lane for starts.

One guy I knew back in the 1960s or 1970s was riding his 250cc
motorcycle in traffic and had a motorist tailgating him mercilessly and
aggressively. They ended up side by side at a red light shouting at each
other. The guy on the motorcycle kicked the driver's door then took off
and got away.

I suspect something similar must have happened with the cyclist and
driver. I think avid bicyclists (judging by his bike) essentially never
deliberately damage cars for no reason.

One book on my shelf is Dave Glowacz's _Urban Bikers' Tricks & Tips_. He
has a couple pages about serious conflicts with motorists. One
illustration there shows a particular spot on a windshield, midway up
and about 1/4 way across. He warns that if you "accidentally" hit that
spot with your fist or your U-lock, you might crack the windshield.

Or, in other words, it is all right to be a "horses ass" if the other
guy is a "horses ass" :-)
cheers,

John B.