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Old October 3rd 18, 08:44 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Duane[_2_]
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Default SIX thousand and FIVE hundred lumens !!!!!!!!!!

On 03/10/2018 2:16 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 12:16:07 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:04:27 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 4:51:31 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/2/2018 2:32 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 1:09:38 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/2/2018 11:29 AM, jbeattie wrote:
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StVZO are job-killing regulations. Markets should be allowed to regulate light output. Die globalists, die!
https://www.brooksengland.com/media/...1638b377e8.jpg


-- Jay Beattie.


Nice try but it's not safe. No Federally mandated CPSC wheel
reflectors. Anything could happen!

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

#1. Is that Joerg's bicycle?

#2. I see a wheel reflector on each wheel.

Cheers


Nice try but they're the old Amber, not the current Safety
White. Danger!

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Here they're supposed to be white on the front and red on the rear. Ditto for the safety reflective tape that's supposed to be applied to the front and rear forks. That's according to Ontario, Canada law.

If cops were real sticklers to the requirements for bicycles there'ld be darn few Legal bicycles here on the roads.

Cheers

Cheers


Amber or white are acceptable. Memorize this. There will be a test later.

16 CFR §1512.16 Requirements for reflectors.
Bicycles shall be equipped with reflective devices to permit recognition and identification under illumination from motor vehicle headlamps. The use of reflector combinations off the center plane of the bicycle (defined in §1512.18(m)(2)) is acceptable if each reflector meets the requirements of this section and of §1512.18 (m) and (n) and the combination of reflectors has a clear field of view of ±10° vertically and ±50° horizontally. Sidewalk bicycles are not required to have reflectors.

(a) Front, rear, and pedal reflectors. There shall be an essentially colorless front-facing reflector, essentially colorless or amber pedal reflectors, and a red rear-facing reflector.

(b) Side reflectors. There shall be retroreflective tire sidewalls or, alternatively, reflectors mounted on the spokes of each wheel, or, for non-caliper rim brake bicycles, retroreflective wheel rims. The center of spoke-mounted reflectors shall be within 76 mm (3.0 in.) of the inside of the rim. Side reflective devices shall be visible on each side of the wheel.

(c) Front reflector. The reflector or mount shall not contact the ground plane when the bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. The optical axis of the reflector shall be directed forward within 5° of the horizontal-vertical alignment of the bicycle when the wheels are tracking in a straight line, as defined in §1512.18(m)(2). The reflectors and/or mounts shall incorporate a distinct, preferred assembly method that shall insure that the reflector meets the optical requirements of this paragraph (c) when the reflector is attached to the bicycle. The front reflector shall be tested in accordance with the reflector mount and alignment test, §1512.18(m).

(d) Rear reflector. The reflector or mount shall not contact the ground plane when the bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. The reflector shall be mounted such that it is to the rear of the seat mast with the top of the reflector at least 76 mm (3.0 in) below the point on the seat surface that is intersected by the line of the seat post. The optical axis of the reflector shall be directed rearward within 5° of the horizontal-vertical alignment of the bicycle when the wheels are traveling in a straight line, as defined in §1512.18(m)(2). The reflectors and/or mounts shall incorporate a distinct, preferred assembly method that shall insure that the reflector meets the optical requirements of this paragraph (d) when the reflector is attached to the bicycle. The rear reflector shall be tested in accordance with the reflector mount and alignment test, §1512.18(m).

(e) Pedal reflectors. Each pedal shall have reflectors located on the front and rear surfaces of the pedal. The reflector elements may be either integral with the construction of the pedal or mechanically attached, but shall be sufficiently recessed from the edge of the pedal, or of the reflector housing, to prevent contact of the reflector element with a flat surface placed in contact with the edge of the pedal.

(f) Side reflectors. Reflectors affixed to the wheel spokes shall be mounted either flat on the spokes or within the spoke cage such that the angle between the optical axis and the normal to the plane of the wheel shall not exceed the angle of the spokes with the plane of the wheel. The reflectors shall not interfere with any wheel adjustments. The side-mounted reflector devices shall be essentially colorless or amber on the front wheel and essentially colorless or red on the rear wheel.

(g) Reflector tests. The pedal, front-mount, rear-mount, and side-mount reflectors shall be tested in accordance with the reflector test, §1512.18(n), to assure the reflectance values over the angles given in tables 1 and 2.

(h) Retroreflective tire sidewalls. When retroreflective tire sidewalls are used in lieu of spoke-mounted reflectors, the reflecting material shall meet the following requirements:

(1) The retroreflective material shall form a continuous circle on the sidewall.

(2) The retroreflective material shall adhere to the tire such that after the tire has been subjected to a temperature of 50° ±3 °C (122° ±5.4 °F) for 30 minutes, the retroreflective material cannot be peeled or scraped away without removal of tire material.

(3) The retroreflective material shall be as resistant to abrasion as is the adjacent sidewall material so that when retroreflective material is removed from the inflated tire by abrasion with a wet, steel bristle brush, tire material will be removed along with the retroreflective material.

(4) The retroreflective material shall be tested for performance in accordance with the retroreflective tire test, §1512.18(o), to assure the reflectance properties over the angles given in table 3. When a portion of the retroreflective material is selected (and the remainder is masked as specified in §1512.18(o)(2)(i)), the selected portion shall not contact the ground plane when the assembled bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation.

(i) Retroreflective rims. When retroreflective rims are used in lieu of spoke-mounted reflectors or retroreflective tire sidewalls, the reflecting material shall meet the following requirements:

(1) The retroreflective material shall form a continuous circle on the rim.

(2) If the retroreflective material is applied to the rim in the form of a self-adhesive tape, the following requirement must be met: Use a sharp knife, razor blade, or similar instrument to carefully release an end of the tape material sufficient to be grasped between the thumb and finger. Grasp the freed tape end and gradually pull in a direction 90° to the plane of the rim. The tape material must break before additional separation (peeling) from the rim is observed.

(3) After the retroreflective material is abraded in accordance with the abrasion test for retroreflective rims at §1512.18(r), the rim must then be tested for performance in accordance with the retroreflective tire and rim test at §1512.18(o), to assure the reflectance properties over the angles given in table 3.


Question One:

Johnny is riding down the sidewalk on his bicycle. If his bicycle is is festooned with wheel-mounted side reflectors in accordance with the law, what is the color of the reflector in his front wheel?

a. Amber

b. Essentially Colorless

c. Either a or b

d. Neither a or b because Johnny is on a sidewalk bicycle

e. None of the above because Johnny is breaking the law by riding his bicycle on the sidewalk and was taken down by the police.


-- Jay Beattie.


Is all that U.S.A. law or Ontario, Canada law?

Cheers


I don't think there is a U.S.A. law. I think in the states it's by the
state as it's by the province in Canada. That said, amber is allowed in
Quebec in some positions.

232. Every bicycle must carry
(1) one white reflector at the front;
(2) one red reflector at the rear;
(3) one amber or white reflector on each pedal;
(4) on the front wheel, an amber or white reflector attached to the
spokes and visible on both sides of the bicycle, an amber or white
reflective strip attached to each side of the fork, a tire with
reflective sidewalls or a rim with a continuous reflective strip around
the entire circumference of the wheel on both sides; and
(5) on the back wheel, a red or white reflector attached to the spokes
and visible on both sides of the bicycle, a red or white reflective
strip on each seat stay, a tire with reflective sidewalls, or a rim with
a continuous reflective strip around the entire circumference of the
wheel on both sides.
Despite the first paragraph, a bicycle need not carry the reflector
required under subparagraph 3 of that paragraph if the cyclist wears a
reflective band around each ankle or shoes with reflective strips.
Any equipment or object placed on a bicycle that blocks a prescribed
reflector or its substitute must carry a reflector or a reflective strip.
A trailer towed by a bicycle must carry two red reflectors at the rear,
as far apart as practicable, or a red reflective strip placed as close
to horizontal as possible across the width of the trailer.
1986, c. 91, s. 232; 2010, c. 34, s. 45; 2018, c. 7, s. 43.
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